Nymeros Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 I don't care for this theory. That would take a lot of stormlight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halyo_Alex Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, Nymeros said: I don't care for this theory. That would take a lot of stormlight That seems awfully dismissive. We know that solid investiture is metallic [Mistborn] Spoiler Lerasium and Atium, the god metals, are solidified investiture of Preservation and Ruin, respectively so why couldn't shardplate be Stormlight condensed down to solid form like that? The spren can already become solid investiture (shardblade) even without Stormlight (though they are MADE of investiture, so... kinda circumvents that), so enough pure Stormlight should be able to be woven into solid, metallic investiture too, right? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nymeros Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Halyo_Alex said: That seems awfully dismissive. We know that solid investiture is metallic [Mistborn] Hide contents Lerasium and Atium, the god metals, are solidified investiture of Preservation and Ruin, respectively so why couldn't shardplate be Stormlight condensed down to solid form like that? The spren can already become solid investiture (shardblade) even without Stormlight (though they are MADE of investiture, so... kinda circumvents that), so enough pure Stormlight should be able to be woven into solid, metallic investiture too, right? I didnt indicate that it was impossible. I just dont like it. That would take a ridiculous amount of stormlight to pull off and the characters would be able to summon their fuel source anytime? Sounds boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channelknight Fadran Posted April 5, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Nymeros said: I didnt indicate that it was impossible. I just dont like it. That would take a ridiculous amount of stormlight to pull off and the characters would be able to summon their fuel source anytime? Sounds boring. We already know via Shallan that there are ways to reduce stormlight usage (the whole sphere thing for her illusions). I also never said that they'd be able to summon their fuel source anytime. I just said that it happened once with Dalinar (Oathbringer climax), and that the Stormfather said that Stormlight comes from a place where Physical, Cognitive, and Spirital realms connect AKA... Spoiler A Perpendicularity! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanderFan69 Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Nymeros said: I didnt indicate that it was impossible. I just dont like it. That would take a ridiculous amount of stormlight to pull off and the characters would be able to summon their fuel source anytime? Sounds boring. Each time Kaladin has sworn an ideal, he has gotten a burst of stormlight. Maybe with the 4th ideal, that burst of stormlight will be transformed into plate which he can dissolve and resummon without the use of any additional stormlight. As in, once the plate is created, the radiant does not have to ever make it again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+asmodeus Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 47 minutes ago, SanderFan69 said: Each time Kaladin has sworn an ideal, he has gotten a burst of stormlight. Maybe with the 4th ideal, that burst of stormlight will be transformed into plate which he can dissolve and resummon without the use of any additional stormlight. As in, once the plate is created, the radiant does not have to ever make it again. Conversely, neither Shallan nor Lift have gotten immense bursts of Stormlight like Kaladin has. We actually do have WoB that Kaladin's bursts of power are present more because of the closeness of his Order to that of the Bondsmiths. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channelknight Fadran Posted April 6, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2020 18 minutes ago, asmodeus said: Conversely, neither Shallan nor Lift have gotten immense bursts of Stormlight like Kaladin has. We actually do have WoB that Kaladin's bursts of power are present more because of the closeness of his Order to that of the Bondsmiths. This episode on Mythbusters... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karger Posted April 6, 2020 Report Share Posted April 6, 2020 31 minutes ago, SanderFan69 said: Each time Kaladin has sworn an ideal, he has gotten a burst of stormlight. Maybe with the 4th ideal, that burst of stormlight will be transformed into plate which he can dissolve and resummon without the use of any additional stormlight. As in, once the plate is created, the radiant does not have to ever make it again. But not every order gets that really. Only the Bondsmiths and Windrunners. Quote Questioner What's with Kaladin being special with his oaths that he explodes with power every time he says it? Brandon Sanderson That is a function of Windrunners being very close to Bondsmiths, which has certain effects. Questioner Would other Windrunners also do that, as well? Brandon Sanderson Yep. Oathbringer release party (Nov. 13, 2017) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halyo_Alex Posted April 6, 2020 Report Share Posted April 6, 2020 3 hours ago, Karger said: But not every order gets that really. Only the Bondsmiths and Windrunners. Which also means Stonewards would get it, since they're on the other side of Bondsmiths (sharing Tension instead of Adhesion). So that'll be sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nellac Posted April 6, 2020 Report Share Posted April 6, 2020 On 4/4/2020 at 6:26 PM, XeGnome said: It is strange, in my mind, that every radiant who achieved plate would have a “swarm” of Lesser spren following them around all the time (seen or unseen) until summoned during battle. ( imagine the mass of lesser spren at Uruthiru cognitive realm with hundreds of radiant living there ). There has to be some other bond that combines them together to the spirit web of the radiant. This is actually what I think is the most likely case. I think that the plate is a combination of lesser spren and the radiants investiture which is what gives it the "bond" that lets radiants summon their plate. I explain it most fully in the linked thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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