Vambram Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 After re-reading WoK, and WoR, I have come to the conclusion that the Stormlight Archive books could be very interesting, entertaining, and compelling if the major pov's were reversed. If the main protagonists were the Parshendi instead of the humans, I'm convinced that Sanderson's books would still be just as great for me. What do y'all think? Considering the thousands of years of history of Roshar, the roles of the 3 shards on that planet, I truly believe that Sanderson has created series of books in which it's very difficult to say which side of the war is the "right side" to cheer to victory. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SingingMosaic Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 I think it would be equally good written from their point of view, too. For me it's easy to see which side I wouldn't want to be on, I feel like everyone is part of a long and terrible game of Odium's. Some humans have started to figure it out, I think. And when enough Singers figure it out, if they can because their access to information is so heavily controlled and manipulated, there will be an impressive level of righteous outrage. The good thing about Sanderson is that, if that day comes, no matter who's side it's viewed from, it won't be as simple as, oh let's join forces against our common enemy. As we see so often, people are never that simple, and Brandon knows this. Some will. Some won't. And it's between those ends of that spectrum that things will get interesting. I'm excited for this next book. I don't think anything like that is coming yet, but we're going to have a lot more nonhuman perspectives in general in this book, and possibly more in the future, from what I understand. So crossing my fingers and hoping for the best. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karger Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 So with Venli and Eshonai flashbacks we will actually get their perspective on events in the upcoming Rhythm of War. I personally think that reading from the perspective of a generally doomed people would be super depressing. (Although if told with Rlain as the main character you really could do something. Oh great now I have started to outline the book...). It is a testament to Brandon's writing that the books would work validly from either perspective. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightwing8888 Posted March 31, 2020 Report Share Posted March 31, 2020 I think this is a really good point. The world of Stormlight is so well thought out and complex. We’re still going to be finding new things decades after the series is over. I think Rhythm of War is going to be the most diverse book in the series so far, because we’re getting perspectives from people that are on opposing sides, going mad, even dead. I can’t wait to see how Brandon handles it! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vambram Posted March 31, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2020 3 hours ago, Karger said: So with Venli and Eshonai flashbacks we will actually get their perspective on events in the upcoming Rhythm of War. I personally think that reading from the perspective of a generally doomed people would be super depressing. (Although if told with Rlain as the main character you really could do something. Oh great now I have started to outline the book...). It is a testament to Brandon's writing that the books would work validly from either perspective. I'm hoping that with the flashbacks from Venli and Eshonai that Brandon Sanderson reveals more canonical clues who were the former gods of the Singers were before the humans arrived on Roshar. I do not believe their gods were Odium and his spren. Am I not seeing something obvious about the former gods of the Singers? A fact already stated in the first 3 books? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karger Posted March 31, 2020 Report Share Posted March 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Vambram said: I do not believe their gods were Odium and his spren It seems fairly clear that they were not. 1 minute ago, Vambram said: Am I not seeing something obvious about the former gods of the Singers? A fact already stated in the first 3 books? The "obvious" answer is that they were the three great spren. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vambram Posted March 31, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2020 Please show me the link in the Coppermind where I can learn more about the 3 great spren. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karger Posted March 31, 2020 Report Share Posted March 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Vambram said: Please show me the link in the Coppermind where I can learn more about the 3 great spren. We don't actually know much but the three bondsmiths each bond one. https://coppermind.net/wiki/Order_of_Bondsmiths#Theories_and_Speculation 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vambram Posted March 31, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2020 Very interesting stuff there. Thank you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honorless Posted March 31, 2020 Report Share Posted March 31, 2020 (edited) I'd love it. How Parshendi would describe humans when they first (ish) saw them at the Shattered Plains. What they think of the Parshmen. Their supposed savior, Odium. All the Parshmen awakening. Losing loved ones to the Fused. The Songs of Remembrance, the original Voidbringers and the current ones. It would be a very interesting series. I hope Rhythm of War manages to show Parshendi viewpoint well. Edited March 31, 2020 by Dreamer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karger Posted March 31, 2020 Report Share Posted March 31, 2020 13 hours ago, Vambram said: Very interesting stuff there. Thank you. Your welcome! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vambram Posted March 31, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2020 11 hours ago, Dreamer said: I'd love it. How Parshendi would describe humans when they first (ish) saw them at the Shattered Plains. What they think of the Parshmen. Their supposed savior, Odium. All the Parshmen awakening. Losing loved ones to the Fused. The Songs of Remembrance, the original Voidbringers and the current ones. It would be a very interesting series. I hope Rhythm of War manages to show Parshendi viewpoint well. Yes. That's exactly what I'm talking about. To me, the Singers and the Listeners and the humans have all been deceived by Odium and also some of the spren. I'm hoping each side figures that out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karger Posted March 31, 2020 Report Share Posted March 31, 2020 So in an outline of our inverse WoKs we have Rlain subbing for Kaladin as our main PoV with a secondary as Eshonai both people forced into something they do not want and are not ready for with a side of Venli(and maybe her once mate) as an inverse Shallan getting what she wants at the cost of what she feels she should believe in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clockworkspider Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 Distinctly darker, I think. Certainly more tragic, at least early on. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karger Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 1 minute ago, clockworkspider said: Distinctly darker, I think. Certainly more tragic, at least early on. Even compared to bride crews? The Parshendi at least have a sense of camaraderie and the value of each soldier and unlike most actually have a decent idea of what is going on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musica Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 (edited) If our main cast was made up mainly of Parshendi, what would the series been called? I vote for The Voidlight Music Collection I'll take myself out lol Edited April 5, 2020 by Musica 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clockworkspider Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 2 hours ago, Karger said: Even compared to bride crews? The Parshendi at least have a sense of camaraderie and the value of each soldier and unlike most actually have a decent idea of what is going on. The bridge crews were bad, I can't argue there, but we also got other viewpoints where things weren't as (blatantly) grim. Telling the story mostly from the Parshendi point of view, though, leaves us with the story of a civilization's inexorable slide into destruction, at least for the first two books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vambram Posted April 5, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 1 hour ago, clockworkspider said: The bridge crews were bad, I can't argue there, but we also got other viewpoints where things weren't as (blatantly) grim. Telling the story mostly from the Parshendi point of view, though, leaves us with the story of a civilization's inexorable slide into destruction, at least for the first two books. I'm not convinced that the story of the Listeners and Singers will end with their destruction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karger Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 8 hours ago, clockworkspider said: Telling the story mostly from the Parshendi point of view, though, leaves us with the story of a civilization's inexorable slide into destruction, at least for the first two books. Except we have Venli who is in conference with a Voidspren and knows that they can win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clockworkspider Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Karger said: Except we have Venli who is in conference with a Voidspren and knows that they can win. At the cost of going back to their old gods and effectively negating their ancestors' sacrifice. They left Odium's cause originally for a reason, remember. Also, to Vambram, neither am I, which is why I mentioned "at least for the first two books." Edited April 5, 2020 by clockworkspider missed something 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karger Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 Just now, clockworkspider said: At the cost of going back to their old gods and effectively negating their ancestors' sacrifice. They left Odium's cause originally for a reason, remember. We won't know how bad that is yet and Venli does not see that as a cost yet either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clockworkspider Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Karger said: We won't know how bad that is yet and Venli does not see that as a cost yet either. Venli's is not the only perspective that matters. And her entire Oathbringer arc is about realizing that going back to Odium was not worth it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karger Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 39 minutes ago, clockworkspider said: Venli's is not the only perspective that matters. And her entire Oathbringer arc is about realizing that going back to Odium was not worth it. She is not the only but I think as far as depressing goes they would be about equal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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