Nellac Posted March 1, 2020 Report Share Posted March 1, 2020 So, I was reading WoR the other day and something stuck out to me. At the end when Dalinar bonds the stormfather the stormfather says something interesting. He says that he won't be a blade for Dalinar and that Dalinar would be a radiant without Shards. Shards, plural. Now this might just be another error of the stormfather, but if not it brings an interesting question to the table. Why would Dalinar not get shardplate? Not sure how important this is, but it might give one more clue about how plate is created. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karger Posted March 1, 2020 Report Share Posted March 1, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Nellac said: Why would Dalinar not get shardplate? Not sure how important this is, but it might give one more clue about how plate is created. Someone asked and it was RAFOed. Quote LameLamas Will Dalinar get Shardplate once he swears his Fourth Ideal? Or Bondsmiths don’t have Plates? Brandon Sanderson RAFO. Skyward Pre-Release AMA (Oct. 15, 2018) Edited March 1, 2020 by Karger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frustration Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 Interesting, I always thought that Bondsmiths had plate but no blade. This is very interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsecaller_17.5 Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 Great find! My question on that scene was on the "will not" as opposed to "can not." I was convinced that stormfather was just being a jerk, but there's a WoB floating around that shoots that down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantus Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 For what it's worth, I took that as the Stormfather banning him from using dead shardblades and/or existing plate. I know he complains later when Dalinar so much as carries a dead shardblade, and if Im not mistaken he gave his own Plate to Renarin after Bonding. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nellac Posted March 4, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2020 On 3/2/2020 at 8:54 AM, Quantus said: For what it's worth, I took that as the Stormfather banning him from using dead shardblades and/or existing plate. I know he complains later when Dalinar so much as carries a dead shardblade, and if Im not mistaken he gave his own Plate to Renarin after Bonding. He gave the plate to Renarin beforehand. As far as I know, Radiants don't get backlash from plate like they do with blades Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karger Posted March 4, 2020 Report Share Posted March 4, 2020 On 3/2/2020 at 10:54 AM, Quantus said: For what it's worth, I took that as the Stormfather banning him from using dead shardblades and/or existing plate. I know he complains later when Dalinar so much as carries a dead shardblade, and if Im not mistaken he gave his own Plate to Renarin after Bonding. Renarin was able to where the plate no problem so the issue does not seem to extend in that direction. This indicates that Dalinar could just borrow someone's if he needs to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantus Posted March 4, 2020 Report Share Posted March 4, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, Nellac said: He gave the plate to Renarin beforehand. As far as I know, Radiants don't get backlash from plate like they do with blades 10 hours ago, Karger said: Renarin was able to where the plate no problem so the issue does not seem to extend in that direction. This indicates that Dalinar could just borrow someone's if he needs to. Im not saying every radiant (or any of them for that matter) is going to get the same sort of mental scream issue with the Plate that they all seem to have with Shardblades, Im just saying that the Stormfather specifically made Dalinar promise not to use "Shards", which to the spren mind might very well extend to Plate as well as Blades since both are considered "Shards". Edited March 4, 2020 by Quantus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aggravatione Posted March 4, 2020 Report Share Posted March 4, 2020 15 hours ago, Nellac said: He gave the plate to Renarin beforehand. As far as I know, Radiants don't get backlash from plate like they do with blades I'd like to add that in during the Kaladin and Adolin team duel Kal was using the plate piece he took just fine without hearing the screams but when he pulled of the lastclap the heard the screams. Seems to further support the notion that radiants could use the current Shardplate as we know it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naurock Posted March 5, 2020 Report Share Posted March 5, 2020 On 3/1/2020 at 5:02 PM, Nellac said: Shards, plural. Now this might just be another error of the stormfather, but if not it brings an interesting question to the table. Why would Dalinar not get shardplate? I took his answer at his word, that he would not be a Shardblade and I think you answered it in this statement. Plural. I do not believe their bond would stop Dalinar from having Live Plate. I always found interesting parts in the Chasmfiend Hunt chapter of WoK (Chapter 13). Quote Again the world lurched, and metal hit stone in a cacophony as he slid. No! he thought, getting a gauntleted hand beneath himself and heaving, using the momentum of his slide to throw himself upright. As the sky spun, something seemed to right, as if the Plate itself knew which way was up. He landed—still moving, feet grinding on stone. ... Dalinar charged toward the king, moving with a speed and grace no man—not even one wearing Shardplate—should be able to manage. ... Dalinar held back the claw and matched its strength, a figure in dark, silvery metal that almost seemed to glow. What's to say in his Proto-Radiant bond he wasn't amplifying the plate's latent abilities? We've never read Adolin describing his combat like this. On 3/1/2020 at 5:07 PM, Karger said: Someone asked and it was RAFOed. Well, Brandon can't go giving away all future reveals, can he? On 3/1/2020 at 9:34 PM, Booknerd said: Interesting, I always thought that Bondsmiths had plate but no blade. This is very interesting. I think you're correct. What good would a Bondsmith do on a battlefield, unable to achieve plate, while surrounded by an army of Radiants in plate? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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