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Theory on the shard Trell.

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I’ll type out a better theory later but this is the summary: The Set or the group Waxilliums uncle was apart of is actually the IRE or the elantrians from mistborn secret history. The shard Trell is actually Autonomy or the hosts of Autonomy and they were convinced by the elantrians to separate the shard Harmony back into ruin and preservation. The elantrians want Preservations shard so they can revive their own Shards. They used the original agreement between shards to not live on the same world and mix powers, to convince the shard Autonomy or the majority of its splintered power to separate ruin and preservation. Sorry for the messy bad grammar. Please pick this theory apart and maybe read between the lines to find out inbook reasons why what I said could be right. 

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1 hour ago, Nightblade said:

The elantrians want Preservations shard so they can revive their own Shards.

Why do they want to do this?  It would deprive them of their powers.  Also how would you do that?  The power of preservation is for keeping things in stasis.  To put things back together again you would probably want somthing more like Honor.  Also what happens to Ruin?

1 hour ago, Nightblade said:

They used the original agreement between shards to not live on the same world and mix powers

That was not the agreement as best as I can tell.  They stated that they would not interfere with each other.  Cooperation is fine and it was not a formal oath.  Autonomy might not like unity going on but we don't really know what their shtick is.

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I don't know much about the original agreement, but it's a common theory that Trell is Autonomy

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Autonomy wanting autonomous Shards I can understand

Hmm, why would the Ire want to revive Devotion and Dominion? They didn't seem to want that in Secret History. If they are behind Trell, they would probably want to take up Preservation as they did before.

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12 hours ago, Nightblade said:

I’ll type out a better theory later but this is the summary: The Set or the group Waxilliums uncle was apart of is actually the IRE or the elantrians from mistborn secret history. The shard Trell is actually Autonomy or the hosts of Autonomy and they were convinced by the elantrians to separate the shard Harmony back into ruin and preservation. The elantrians want Preservations shard so they can revive their own Shards. They used the original agreement between shards to not live on the same world and mix powers, to convince the shard Autonomy or the majority of its splintered power to separate ruin and preservation. Sorry for the messy bad grammar. Please pick this theory apart and maybe read between the lines to find out inbook reasons why what I said could be right. 

When you say they "They used the original agreement between shards to not live on the same world and mix powers, to convince the shard Autonomy" how do you imagine that went?  I ask because I think it could be tricky to convince Autonomy on that basis without (potentially) running afoul of the fact that they also have a pair shards they (presumably) want then want to settle on their planet.

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7 hours ago, Quantus said:When you say they "They used the original agreement between shards to not live on the same world and mix powers, to convince the shard Autonomy" how do you imagine that went?  I ask because I think it could be tricky to convince Autonomy on that basis without (potentially) running afoul of the fact that they also have a pair shards they (presumably) want then want to settle on their planet.

It’s another theory about the religion of pre reod elantrians based on the intent of the shards devotion and dominion. My theory is because those 2 shards worked so closely together on Sel and because devotion and dominion had an active influence in the lives of the people, the elantrians religion would revolve around their devotion to dominion. Some evidence for this is in the Sixth of Dusk elantrians come down to manipulate the people into advancing their technology so the elantrians could conquer and dominate. If the elantrians were aware of the cosmere as well as world jumping then it wouldn’t be a stretch to assume That some elantrians were aware of odiums attack on their shards and with that knowledge they created a island or “ship” in the cognitive realm to escape. Presumably with knowledge of the other shards it’s interesting that those elantrians chose to steal preservations shard. Speculation on that made me think it likely that they wanted preservations shard to hold together or “revive” their own shard.

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