icspots Posted February 23, 2020 Report Share Posted February 23, 2020 (edited) I’m just doing a reread of Arcanum Unbounded, so I just read through White Sands the other night, and am reading Edgedancer now. I saw something this reread I missed previously. In the beginning when lift is first entering Yeddaw she causes a Lift-style scene while stealing pancakes and getting past the gate guard. Right before she escapes into the city she’s atop a wagon filled with tallew grain. The officer chasing her says the grain glowed, flowed like water out of the wagon and over the cliff edge, and afterwards there was a strange black dust on the ground. Quote ”It was the strangest thing she’d ever seen. The pile of grain became like a liquid, flowing out of the cart even though the incline was shallow. It ... well, it glowed softly as it flowed out and rained down into the city.” And then after she made her escape Quote ”Cart secure, Hauka stepped up to the ledge. The girl was nowhere to be seen. Storms. Had she been some kind of Soren? Hauka searched again but saw nothing, though there was this strange black dust at her feet. It blew away in the wind” This sounds an awful lot like Sandmastery, except instead of Invested glowing white sand turned black, it’s glowing golden grain which turns black. The easy explanation is Lift just made the grain “Awesome” and it slid out of the cart, but why the direct comment on strange black dust? It’s been awhile since I read this, or Oathbringer..... are there other examples of her making things other than her own body Awesome? Is this just a scenario where the magic systems are different, but the end effect is similar? Note, she didn’t use the grain to help her fall after going over the cliff, instead using Wyndle and self-healing Investiture to slow her fall and recover. Edited February 23, 2020 by icspots 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honorless Posted February 23, 2020 Report Share Posted February 23, 2020 Her spren, Wyndle, a Cultivationspren, is described as a mass of growing vines speckled with quartz, they move by growing, and the vines they leave behind desiccate, crystallize and crumble. These are probably the black sandy grains that the Tashikki officer finds. I think her spren is either more in the Physical naturally, like Cryptics are supposed to be compared to Honorspren or that whatever draws her partially into the Cognitive also draws her spren a slight bit more into the Physical, an interaction between her Boon and her Bond. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icspots Posted February 23, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2020 Yeah, I was just thinking about Wyndle’s vines disintegrating as he moves on. There are however no references to other people being able to see or interact with Wyndle in the text though, only Lift being able to grab onto him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karger Posted February 23, 2020 Report Share Posted February 23, 2020 1 hour ago, icspots said: Yeah, I was just thinking about Wyndle’s vines disintegrating as he moves on. There are however no references to other people being able to see or interact with Wyndle in the text though, only Lift being able to grab onto him. Wyndle spends most of that and every book hiding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RShara Posted February 23, 2020 Report Share Posted February 23, 2020 That's remnants from Wyndle. His vines decay and turn into black dust after he moves on. From WoR Quote Wyndle grew up to her, leaving a small trail of vines that people didn’t seem to be able to see. The vines hardened after a few moments of sitting, as if briefly becoming solid crystal, then they crumbled to dust. People spotted that on occasion, though they certainly couldn’t see Wyndle himself. The grain flowing out was just from her using Abrasion to reduce friction. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elegy Posted February 23, 2020 Report Share Posted February 23, 2020 Yep, it's Wyndle. To remove any sort of doubt: Quote Questioner In the new novella for the Stormlight Archive. <Edgedancer.> Brandon Sanderson Mhm? Questioner When she gets the cart over the edge of the ledge, it mentions that there was black sand on the ground? Was that Hoid, or...? Brandon Sanderson That was not Hoid. Questioner Was that due to what she did, or...? Brandon Sanderson That was Wyndle. Questioner Okay, he left black sand? Brandon Sanderson Well, his, uh-- he decayed into dust. Questioner Okay. Brandon Sanderson And so... Questioner Okay. Wondering if it was related to White Sand. Brandon Sanderson There's something going on there. But no, it is not the white-- it is not sand. I should be careful about use the word sand, particularly black sand. But I was just thinking of Wyndle with that one. Questioner Okay, okay. Brandon Sanderson That is a false positive on the cosmere connection. Arcanum Unbounded Hoboken signing (Dec. 3, 2016) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icspots Posted February 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 Perfect, thanks for the WoB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frustration Posted February 28, 2020 Report Share Posted February 28, 2020 I thought that it was a White Sand connection for a little bit to I just happened to remember Wyndle before I had a chance to post so don't feel to bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icspots Posted March 5, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2020 I probably made the correct assumption of it being Wyndle the first time I read it. I think last time I didn’t read it immediately after White Sands, and this time I did so it was stuck in my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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