StealthPrincess Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 Update: still annoyed with Harmony, but it's different this time. I'm less upset and more indifferent (I do understand his logic, and I definitely agree with hos logic, but he still interferes too much for a God who says he won't). On a different note, this has been the best book in Era 2 in my opinion and here's a list of why: Wayne letting go of Ranette (and asking inappropriate questions while doing so) Marasi walking into Wax and Steris passionately competing over house ledgers Wayne and MeLaan being cheeky on the train while the rest of the train is being ROBBED Marasi being jealous of said cheekiness Hoid being Hoid Khriss being Khriss Wax going from lawkeeper to outlaw Wayne old shaming Wax Wayne in general (I NEED him to become a worldhopper, imagine all the mischief) Hints of the civilisations outside Elendel and the Basin All their advanced technology Kelsier being Kelsier Allik calling Marasi the cute one and Wax the Metabolic One (etc, etc) Wayne again (he may be my favourite ever) Wayne and MeLaan Badass Wayne Both Marasi and Wax not letting the power of the Bands of Mourning consume them A darker side of Wax? Marasi and Allik Wax and Steris I also desperately want the fourth book. I am the most excited to find out more about the interaction with the outside cultures. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raphaborn Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 Sorry, but where exactly do you think Harmony is intervening too much? Because this whole saga is about another god invading your domain, distorting your magic system and corrupting your sacred servants. It would be strange if he looked at all this and thought "solve the problem if you can, if not the planet that is destroyed". As he said, he is just avoiding the worst. If it seems that he is intervening so much, it is because we are seeing events through an elite group that he uses to prevent the end of the world. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karger Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 1 hour ago, StealthPrincess said: On a different note, this has been the best book in Era 2 in my opinion and here's a list of why: I agree with all of them. Here are a few that I think you might have missed(my personal favorites). Steris's reading material. Streis trying to help Wax. Steris making lists of all the things they need. Wayne throwing nuts at that old Kandra Steris's handbag which now contains earplugs and extra steal in cod liver oil The scene with Wax and Steris where she takes out the gun tied to her leg. Wayne being offended by Marasi cheating by showing credentials. As you can tell I am a huge Steris fan. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honorless Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 @StealthPrincess, you're not mad about the Southern Scadrial thing? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sovereign Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 (edited) @StealthPrincess sorry to be the bearer of bad news... I suppose this could change but I suspect that it wont (Wayne has "I die at the end of the series" written all over him...). Quote Questioner Wayne from the Wax and Wayne, worldhopper? Brandon Sanderson Wayne is not a worldhopper. Starsight Release Party (Nov. 26, 2019) Edited January 30, 2020 by The Sovereign 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aon Tia Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 I agree @StealthPrincess that I liked BoM best of the era 2 books as well. There are many reasons for that. I liked that suddenly the events that are happening and Set’s plans got cosmere wide ramifications in this book. Stakes got very high very fast. I loved the reveal of the red mist in the end also. I loved the idea of medallions and how magic is being used by the southerners for technology purposes ( I read stormlight after this, so it was a new concept for me and it blew my mind) I loved the reveal that there are other continents and other civilisations out there! But I can not believe that Harmony so ignored them and left them to their devices!! How? Why? He is god of the whole planet, is he not? Kelsier!! I loved each and every scene between Steris and Wax. I absolutely fell in love with Steris in this book. She is awesome!! I loved Marasi in this book and I like the possibility of Allik and Marasi. For some reason, since we don’t have much of him, but I instantly liked Allik!! I always like Wayne in these books. And I can not wait for the next book. Because I want to know where it is all going to lead. And I want to know if and how, this first contact with southerners is going to change things in Elendel Basin. I also hope we get to visit this new continent!! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karger Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 1 hour ago, The Traveller said: I loved the reveal that there are other continents and other civilisations out there! But I can not believe that Harmony so ignored them and left them to their devices!! How? Why? He is god of the whole planet, is he not? At the moment of ascention he did not know about them yet. Afterward he could only do so much to help them. Remember that the simplest of actions prove difficult for him. 1 hour ago, The Traveller said: I loved each and every scene between Steris and Wax. I absolutely fell in love with Steris in this book. She is awesome!! High five! 1 hour ago, The Traveller said: I loved Marasi in this book and I like the possibility of Allik and Marasi. For some reason, since we don’t have much of him, but I instantly liked Allik!! Agreed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aon Tia Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 2 hours ago, Karger said: I agree with all of them. Here are a few that I think you might have missed(my personal favorites). Steris's reading material. Streis trying to help Wax. Steris making lists of all the things they need Steris's handbag which now contains earplugs and extra steal in cod liver oil The scene with Wax and Steris where she takes out the gun tied to her leg As you can tell I am a huge Steris fan. Same here, my friend. I loved absolutely everything Steris in this book. • Steris and Wax going over house finances • Steris and her usefulness 7/100 • Steris when she gave the list of possible accidents to the hotel lady, hilarious. I also loved when she was already packed! • Steris and how she is so excited when Wax takes her flying!! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man moomba Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 Wayne's quest to find a suitable gift for Ranette is one of my all-time favorite scenes. Wayne being Wayne is just a pleasure to read, since he's just goofy and leaves chaos in his wake wherever he goes. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karger Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 11 minutes ago, Dr. Dapper said: Wayne's quest to find a suitable gift for Ranette is one of my all-time favorite scenes. Wayne being Wayne is just a pleasure to read, since he's just goofy and leaves chaos in his wake wherever he goes. It is a shame he does not take all the parking tickets in my neighborhood. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iarwainiel I Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 I just finished re-reading - here's a couple more "why's" from me: Wayne's apparatus to imitate "Old Ironeyes" & how that scene played out Ranette's spheres & the creative ways Wax used them Melaan with her broken-up skeleton still standing tall at the end to accept the Bands on behalf of the kandra Choc! (I wonder if Brandon's kids love hot cocoa & that was the inspiration - ?) But best of all was (Wax's thoughts) "Those arms Those arms!!" At that point on my first read-thru, it was all I could do to not throw the book up in the air & scream "Survivor of Hathsin! Survivor of Hathsin!" Happily, I resisted the urge to destroy a lovely hardback book, but - - - wow! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StealthPrincess Posted January 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 9 hours ago, Karger said: I agree with all of them. Here are a few that I think you might have missed(my personal favorites). Steris's reading material. Streis trying to help Wax. Steris making lists of all the things they need. Wayne throwing nuts at that old Kandra Steris's handbag which now contains earplugs and extra steal in cod liver oil The scene with Wax and Steris where she takes out the gun tied to her leg. Wayne being offended by Marasi cheating by showing credentials. As you can tell I am a huge Steris fan. I also forgot to mention the entire hotel scene, compete with Steris' list of everything that could go wrong 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StealthPrincess Posted January 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 9 hours ago, Raphaborn said: Sorry, but where exactly do you think Harmony is intervening too much? Because this whole saga is about another god invading your domain, distorting your magic system and corrupting your sacred servants. It would be strange if he looked at all this and thought "solve the problem if you can, if not the planet that is destroyed". As he said, he is just avoiding the worst. If it seems that he is intervening so much, it is because we are seeing events through an elite group that he uses to prevent the end of the world. I guess you're right Still doesn't stop me from disliking how he used Wax (even though Wax seems to appreciate it now that he's thought about it more) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StealthPrincess Posted January 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 6 hours ago, Dr. Dapper said: Wayne's quest to find a suitable gift for Ranette is one of my all-time favorite scenes. Wayne being Wayne is just a pleasure to read, since he's just goofy and leaves chaos in his wake wherever he goes. I also love that we get more from his point of view - he could be doing anything, I'd read it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StealthPrincess Posted January 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 9 hours ago, Honorless said: @StealthPrincess, you're not mad about the Southern Scadrial thing? No, I am so so so excited and intrigued about it! What do you think? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StealthPrincess Posted January 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 8 hours ago, The Sovereign said: @StealthPrincess sorry to be the bearer of bad news... I suppose this could change but I suspect that it wont (Wayne has "I die at the end of the series" written all over him...). Ahahahaha he'll always be a worldhopper in my heart 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honorless Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 (edited) 15 hours ago, StealthPrincess said: No, I am so so so excited and intrigued about it! What do you think? I suspect that's the Ruin in him. Maybe, in his heart of hearts, he thinks that the people of Northern Scadrial, the former denizens of the Final Empire, have already suffered enough, so he goes all Preservation on them Edited January 31, 2020 by Honorless 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StealthPrincess Posted January 31, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Honorless said: I suspect that's the Ruin in him. Maybe, in his heart of hearts, he thinks that the people of Northern Scadrial, the former denizens of the Final Empire have already suffered enough, so goes all Preservation on them People on Southern Scadrial have the technological advantage though, because of his non-interference 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karger Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, The Sovereign said: sorry to be the bearer of bad news... I suppose this could change but I suspect that it wont (Wayne has "I die at the end of the series" written all over him...). That just means he is not one yet. Not that he can not become one in the future. 33 minutes ago, StealthPrincess said: People on Southern Scadrial have the technological advantage though, because of his non-interference Actually because of Kelseir's interference. Edited January 31, 2020 by Karger 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StealthPrincess Posted January 31, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 40 minutes ago, Karger said: That just means he is not one yet. Not that he can not become one in the future. Actually because of Kelseir's interference. Kelsier doesn’t claim that he doesn’t interfere though 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karger Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 12 minutes ago, StealthPrincess said: Kelsier doesn’t claim that he doesn’t interfere though Good? Kel did not break a promise? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aon Tia Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Karger said: Actually because of Kelseir's interference. Thank goodness for his interference, I would say! @StealthPrincess I don’t think “ he is not a worldhopper” means that “ he can not become a worldhopper later”!! I am team Wayne worldhopper too. Edited January 31, 2020 by The Traveller 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StealthPrincess Posted January 31, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 7 hours ago, The Traveller said: Thank goodness for his interference, I would say! @StealthPrincess I don’t think “ he is not a worldhopper” means that “ he can not become a worldhopper later”!! I am team Wayne worldhopper too. Where does Mistborn Era 2 fit within the cosmere timeline? I'll need to keep a look out for him 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aon Tia Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 (edited) I think it is post SA arc 1. It happens in the time gap between the two arcs i.e. between SA 5 & SA6 Edited January 31, 2020 by The Traveller 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightwing8888 Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 How come no one has mentioned the whole "Rotten Tomato" thing (I can't remember what it's called exactly, I read BoM a while ago.) That was one of my favorite parts, because I thought it really showcased Wax+Wayne's relationship. (plus it reminded me of "Get Help" and, come on, is that not amazing?) And also, the fact that every single one of those ridicules names entailed an entire plan between them. I LOVE every time they interact! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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