StanLemon Posted December 4, 2019 Report Share Posted December 4, 2019 So it seems Brandon has changed his mind or at the least elaborated more on the possibility of a Feruchemy Savant Questioner There are Allomantic savants, are there Feruchemical savants? Brandon Sanderson Much harder to do. My feeling on Feruchemical savants was because it was your own power in the first place, you can't steep in it so much in the way. But, if you can get someone else's power or if you are fueling your Feruchemy another way, you would become one. So, the Lord Ruler is a good example. Questioner Was Miles a... Brandon Sanderson Yeah. Miles would be the same sort of thing. Questioner Is that why he didn't die as quickly in the execution? Brandon Sanderson Yes. So yeah. Normally no but if you can Compound you become... basically that is how I am explaining part of the Compounding abilities. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honorless Posted December 4, 2019 Report Share Posted December 4, 2019 So for now Compounding is the only viable method for savantism in Feruchemy aside from getting it fuelled by a Shard Nicrosil Ferrings sound like they might attain savanthood sooner than others to me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoWibble Posted December 4, 2019 Report Share Posted December 4, 2019 RAFO!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantus Posted December 4, 2019 Report Share Posted December 4, 2019 11 hours ago, Honorless said: So for now Compounding is the only viable method for savantism in Feruchemy aside from getting it fuelled by a Shard Nicrosil Ferrings sound like they might attain savanthood sooner than others to me That sounds reasonable to me. The only examples of "someone else's power" I can think of are Nicrosil and Hemalurgy, and we know that Hemalurgy alters your Identity into a muddled amalgamation of yourself and the spike, so that might still be too much "you own" for Savantism. Now, if you figured out how to Fuel your Feruchemy with some other magic system (Breaths, Stormlight, Dor, Sand, etc) that should also do it, and we know of several circumstances to get us there, given that there is a Kandra on Roshar, and that Era 4 will feature lots of shardworld crossover in general. Not to mention all the Trell shenanigans. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honorless Posted December 4, 2019 Report Share Posted December 4, 2019 9 minutes ago, Ookla the Ingeniator said: That sounds reasonable to me. The only examples of "someone else's power" I can think of are Nicrosil and Hemalurgy, and we know that Hemalurgy alters your Identity into a muddled amalgamation of yourself and the spike, so that might still be too much "you own" for Savantism. Now, if you figured out how to Fuel your Feruchemy with some other magic system (Breaths, Stormlight, Dor, Sand, etc) that should also do it, and we know of several circumstances to get us there, given that there is a Kandra on Roshar, and that Era 4 will feature lots of shardworld crossover in general. Not to mention all the Trell shenanigans. A small correction: the Sand, or rather the organisms on the Sand, just capture the Investiture which comes in the form of sunlight 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantus Posted December 4, 2019 Report Share Posted December 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, Honorless said: A small correction: the Sand, or rather the organisms on the Sand, just capture the Investiture which comes in the form of sunlight Fair point. I was thinking of it as "charged Sand", but that's still the container more than a physical Investiture like Stormlight or Breath. Fun Fact, if you know what you are doing and where to look, it's technically possible to charge sand from other planets since one of those points of starlight is Taladin's larger Sun. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honorless Posted December 4, 2019 Report Share Posted December 4, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, Ookla the Ingeniator said: Fair point. I was thinking of it as "charged Sand", but that's still the container more than a physical Investiture like Stormlight or Breath. Fun Fact, if you know what you are doing and where to look, it's technically possible to charge sand from other planets since one of those points of starlight is Taldain's larger Sun. It would probably take days, or rather nights to recharge, maybe even weeks Edited December 4, 2019 by Honorless 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pathfinder Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 I have to check the WoB that support this, but I believe the White Sand Spoilers Spoiler Lichen can feed off of any investiture, so you could power the sand with stormlight or breaths and such. I believe it also works on any sand, as it is the lichen that causes the effect, not the sand itself I believe. But I am going on recollection, so don't quote me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karger Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 (edited) On 12/5/2019 at 10:15 AM, Pathfinder said: I have to check the WoB that support this, but I believe the White Sand Spoilers You are correct. SA because some people think meaningful information can be extracted from this statement out of context. Spoiler The sand in the ghost vault in SA is a kind of alarm. Edited December 15, 2019 by Ookla the Prolific 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pathfinder Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 8 minutes ago, Ookla the Prolific said: You are correct. The sand in the ghost vault in SA is a kind of alarm. Not to be that guy, but this is the Mistborn thread, which is why I spoilered White Sand. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karger Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Pathfinder said: Not to be that guy, but this is the Mistborn thread, which is why I spoilered White Sand. I spoke in terms general enough that I seriously doubt anyone could figure out any meaningful spoiler information. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honorless Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 On 12/5/2019 at 10:26 PM, Ookla the Prolific said: I spoke in terms general enough that I seriously doubt anyone could figure out any meaningful spoiler information. Dude just put it in a spoiler tag. Those are the rules. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karger Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 14 minutes ago, Honorless said: Dude just put it in a spoiler tag. Those are the rules. So you are "that guy" that pathfinder was referencing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honorless Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 17 minutes ago, Ookla the Prolific said: So you are "that guy" that pathfinder was referencing. Don't make me report you. And that's a quote box not a spoiler box 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karger Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 57 minutes ago, Honorless said: Don't make me report you. And that's a quote box not a spoiler box My statement stands. I dub you "that guy." You are technically correct(the best kind of correct) but at the same time. Ug 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honorless Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 Thank you for the edit. Please refrain from egging people on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantus Posted December 16, 2019 Report Share Posted December 16, 2019 On 12/5/2019 at 10:15 AM, Pathfinder said: I have to check the WoB that support this, but I believe the White Sand Spoilers Hide contents Lichen can feed off of any investiture, so you could power the sand with stormlight or breaths and such. I believe it also works on any sand, as it is the lichen that causes the effect, not the sand itself I believe. But I am going on recollection, so don't quote me. I believe you are correct, and that we saw that in OB Spoiler when the jar of sand that Hoid had turned white when exposed to Shallan. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karger Posted December 16, 2019 Report Share Posted December 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Ookla the Ingeniator said: I believe you are correct, and that we saw that in OB I am not sure that we can rely on Hoid scenes to tell us much. He has a lot of weird stuff going on with him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderis Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Ookla the Prolific said: I am not sure that we can rely on Hoid scenes to tell us much. He has a lot of weird stuff going on with him. That's not Hoid weirdness. That's just the way it works. Spoiler Questioner Mraize's Basement Emporium. Is that more like a trophy room or a "In case of emergencies" room? Multiple people Or a bank vault? Or a weapon's vault? Or both? Brandon Sanderson So, yes... I mean, he can't use the Aether, right? ...He can't use the Aether, he doesn't have an Aether. But the sand, the sand does stuff. So a handful of sand is a really useful amount of sand to have if you're not a sandmaster. Because sand reacts to Investiture. So if you let it fade and you take it somewhere, as soon as Investiture goes kinetic, it'll turn white again. So you'll be able to use it to tell who's using Inve-- it works just like a Seeker, like bronze pulses... So having white sand, having sand around is really good. If you can keep the little beasties that are growing on the sand around, they will react to basically the Investiture equivalent of radiation. So that's handy. Emerald City Comic Con 2018 (March 1, 2018) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karger Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Calderis said: That's not Hoid weirdness. That's just the way it works. I know I pointed this out Here On 12/5/2019 at 10:20 AM, Ookla the Prolific said: You are correct however in the scene referenced Hoid could have been using Yolish Lightweaving for example. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pathfinder Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 (edited) On 12/16/2019 at 7:30 PM, Ookla the Prolific said: I know I pointed this out Here however in the scene referenced Hoid could have been using Yolish Lightweaving for example. There is a recent WoB: Spoiler Questioner (paraphrased) Can a Highstorm recharge sand from Taldain, and would that sand be charged with Stormlight or would it be masterable? Brandon Sanderson (paraphrased) It would recharge the sand, and it would be masterable, not Stormlight American Fork High School Signing (Dec. 12, 2019) Edited December 18, 2019 by Pathfinder 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantus Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 3 hours ago, Pathfinder said: There is a recent WoB: Questioner (paraphrased) Can a Highstorm recharge sand from Taldain, and would that sand be charged with Stormlight or would it be masterable? Brandon Sanderson (paraphrased) It would recharge the sand, and it would be masterable, not Stormlight American Fork High School Signing (Dec. 12, 2019) Yup. I think this is the same thing as when he said gems exposed to some other Shard's perpendicularity would still be charged (though I dont think the older WOB actually confirmed what type of investiture would fill them, I assumed it was stormlight.) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honorless Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 So the lichen automatically converts Investiture into its compatible usable form, interesting... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pathfinder Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 (edited) 11 hours ago, Honorless said: So the lichen automatically converts Investiture into its compatible usable form, interesting... I would liken it to Spoiler Larkins and Nightblood. They feed on investiture, any investiture. The byproduct on the other hand is unique Spoiler (mastering). Edited December 18, 2019 by Pathfinder 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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