Higgs-Boson Spren Posted November 16, 2019 Report Share Posted November 16, 2019 Alright this is my first post and so forgive me if this has been proposed before. In a recent reread of Mistborn era 1 I realized that in many of the references to the Deepness, it referenced it as being dark or black. However during the Final Empire and after, the Mists are white. The Mists are of Preservation, but could the Deepness have been something like Ruin’s “Mist”? Because Ruin’s power is frequently black. His Shardpool is black. They see his power as a black smoke. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honorless Posted November 16, 2019 Report Share Posted November 16, 2019 The Mists were still Preservation's Mists, Ruin just added his own power to them, to make them thicker, last longer, be more aggressive in causing Snappings 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgs-Boson Spren Posted November 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2019 Well that is how it was during the events of the Hero of Ages. However even then the Mists are white. But in the logbook the Deepness is dark 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderis Posted November 16, 2019 Report Share Posted November 16, 2019 My understanding is that the descriptions were far more metaphor. The "black" of the deepness was just the darkness it caused. Strangling and starving the land and its people. It was doing the same things in HoA. The situation leading up to the filling of the Well was literally the same as in alendi's logbook. That grew *worse* rapidly after Ruin was freed. I don't think the Mists back then were any different than the Mists we saw. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgs-Boson Spren Posted November 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2019 That makes sense. I just feel like there is a lot more to the Deepness than we understand. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raphaborn Posted November 16, 2019 Report Share Posted November 16, 2019 Maybe those of the past really were worse (and black). In Alendi's time there was a Black Lake, too. Perhaps the creation of the Pits of Hathsin was to condense this power of Ruin Perpendicularity and prevent it from being used to make the Mists (even more) worse. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weltall Posted November 16, 2019 Report Share Posted November 16, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, Raphaborn said: Maybe those of the past really were worse (and black). In Alendi's time there was a Black Lake, too. Perhaps the creation of the Pits of Hathsin was to condense this power of Ruin Perpendicularity and prevent it from being used to make the Mists (even more) worse. Preservation set up the system of atium cycling through the Pits of Hathsin when he imprisoned Ruin, well before Rashek's Ascension. From the HoA epigraphs: Quote Atium, then, was an object that was one-sided. Instead of being composed of half Ruin and half Preservation—as, say, a rock would be—atium was completely of Ruin. The Pits of Hathsin were crafted by Preservation as a place to hide the chunk of Ruin's body that he had stolen away during the betrayal and imprisonment. Kelsier didn't truly destroy this place by shattering those crystals, for they would have regrown eventually—in a few hundred years—and continued to deposit atium, as the place was a natural outlet for Ruin's trapped power. As for the idea that there's more to the Deepness... why? What we already know thanks to HoA and Sazed explains everything that we've been told and now that Ati's gone, they're not relevant any longer. Edited November 16, 2019 by Weltall 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgs-Boson Spren Posted November 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2019 I’m not entirely sure. It seems like there was more to that than what we saw. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raphaborn Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 On 16/11/2019 at 8:13 PM, Ookla the Nameless said: Preservation set up the system of atium cycling through the Pits of Hathsin when he imprisoned Ruin, well before Rashek's Ascension. Sometimes it's hard to remember that. So Rashek just hide Black Lake? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Awakened Salad Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 I think it was probably just imagery. The colour black is usually associated with darkness and evil, and the Lord Ruler was painting himself as a hero for defeating the Deepness. It makes sense that he'd try and portray it as negatively as possible. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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