Argent Posted September 13, 2011 Report Share Posted September 13, 2011 Like a proper fanboy of Brandon, I would like to contribute a little bit to the ongoing effort to decipher the secrets of the Cosmere. And I think I will make my contribution with The Alloy of Law (mostly because you guys have talked about the rest far too much for me to come up with something new). With the introduction of the concept of a Twinborn and reveal of some new metals, I thought to make a document of some sort in order to present the (256?) different Twinborn variations. Obviously this will take a while, and we may not even learn about all of them, but I think it's an endeavor worth spending some time on. This being said, I am working on the outline/layout right now. My original idea was to do a table, 16x16, with the Allomantic metals on one side and the Feruchemical ones on the other. Then the corresponding table entries would be the whatever-I-decide-to-include. This seems clumsy to me now though. I think I'll just do a long document, one split into sections, so I can provide a little more information about each category of Twinborn. Or something. I could toss some Hemalurgy in there as well, just so that I can make the ultimate metals guide of Mistborn... Anyway, thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KChan Posted September 13, 2011 Report Share Posted September 13, 2011 Actually, a table seems to be the easiest way to do it. Just go to google docs, create a spreadsheet, and theorize away! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argent Posted September 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2011 Except a table feels somewhat... limited. I was going to do just names, and that would've been fine. But now that I want to make a bigger project, I feel there won't be enough room. I could split the two, but there would be no point in starting the names table, since we know only 3-4 Twinborn names at most. =\ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darniil Posted September 13, 2011 Report Share Posted September 13, 2011 If you want it to fit in-world a littler better than a standard 16x16 grid, you could try to implement the circles-mapping of the allomantic metals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argent Posted September 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2011 Something similar to the Allomantic table Brandon released a while ago? I doubt I could make something like this (don't have the artistic skill to draw a circle), but I think it would be a cool idea. Especially if you could have two concentric circles, one for Allomancy and one for Feruchemy, each one of them with the sixteen metals. You rotate the two, and you get the resulting Twinborn's name to show up somewhere 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darniil Posted September 13, 2011 Report Share Posted September 13, 2011 Especially if you could have two concentric circles, one for Allomancy and one for Feruchemy, each one of them with the sixteen metals. You rotate the two, and you get the resulting Twinborn's name to show up somewhere ... ... Dag nabbit. That is a cool idea. Too cool. I think I may have to try to figure out a way to do that. >.<# Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argent Posted September 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 I am more than willing to help with whatever I can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuaiir Posted September 14, 2011 Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 So, aside from this being a static thing that I can't do much with... this? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silus - Shard of Flame Posted September 14, 2011 Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 YES. This sounds awesome. And yes, Cuaiir, something like that. (slight nitpick, but I always put Enhancement metals before Temporal metals in my head, and it's kinda bugging me in the illustration, but really, that's my own craziness) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argent Posted September 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 I wonder if a graphic designer of some sort would be willing to invest some time into this just for fun. Or if we have any with the time, skill, and knowledge in Flash/Java to make it an online tool. Or maybe I can sit my lazy butt down and learn some of that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darniil Posted September 14, 2011 Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 (edited) That is very awesome, Cuaiir. Very. And it's a lot simpler than what was running through my head with cardboard wheels as the setup. A Flash application would probably be the best thing to use, yes, Argent. Sun's current zaniness aside, Flash seems more universal. (I have no idea if it's easier to program, or if it's less systems-intensive, than Java, so I can't comment about that.) I think I may try to design some art for it, to fancy it up a bit. Try to match Isaac's stuff in the books, make it look in-world. (Which makes me think of an alternate skin: instead of using text, use the symbols.) Edited September 14, 2011 by darniil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ari Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 (edited) Here's a graphical version I threw together, grabbing the icons from the mistborn poster. It'd probably need a key, but would solve the issues with picking out small text. I have a .psd file with it on a transparent background, the cutouts on a separate layer, and the icons on their own layer, too, so it could be easily split up to be made into a flash file. Edited October 7, 2011 by Ari 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darniil Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 (edited) How large is the PSD? I'd like to take a look at it, layers and all, if you don't object. If it's of a size to be emailed, my email address should be in my profile. Edit: And by the way, that's awesome. Edited October 7, 2011 by darniil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyman Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 Here's a graphical version I threw together, grabbing the icons from the mistborn poster. It'd probably need a key, but would solve the issues with picking out small text. I have a .psd file with it on a transparent background, the cutouts on a separate layer, and the icons on their own layer, too, so it could be easily split up to be made into a flash file. It's entirely possible it's my computer display that's the problem, but I thought I'd mention that the contrast between the shield and the symbols isn't as large as it should be, at least the way I see it here and now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darniil Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 Is it for all of them or just some of them? If all, do you have any other displays that you can check, too? (Work/home/friends/phone?) If some, which ones? (Probably don't need to give the name, especially if they're hard to see, but an outer/inner and rough cardinal direction ought to suffice.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ari Posted October 8, 2011 Report Share Posted October 8, 2011 (edited) Is this better? I've just added a drop shadow to the symbols. The psd weighs in just under a meg, (950kb) and I have a version where the outer rings are tinted a desaturated blue and red instead of yellow and untinted, in case different colours would help with contrast. Just pm me your email and I'll send it off. edit: I can also just zip out the symbols I extracted, they're all scaled to the same size, (max of 32x32 pixels) so you could insert them into a word document for presentation purposes while the actionscript is being programmed. Edited October 8, 2011 by Ari Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silus - Shard of Flame Posted October 8, 2011 Report Share Posted October 8, 2011 The shadow really works for the lighter colored ones, but it makes the darker ones look fuzzy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyman Posted October 8, 2011 Report Share Posted October 8, 2011 The shadow really works for the lighter colored ones, but it makes the darker ones look fuzzy. This is as good a description as any. In the first case, it was the light (silver) ones that didn't have enough contrast, at least in my opinion. The difficulty is that when you get it right for the lighter ones, the darker ones become harder to see, and vice versa. I think the only way to change that would be to make the color schemes for the symbols and the background sufficiently different in some way besides darkness---I don't know the words, but they just seem too similar to each other, right now. Both are currently metallic, so if the darkness level becomes the same, they blend together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silus - Shard of Flame Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 I'd say go for a more neutral background, less metallic; a solid color. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darniil Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 Or, if this is being designed as if it were an artifact on Scadrial, the disc could still be metal, but the glyphs could be etched into the metal of the discs and simply "stained" black. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ari Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 Ah, now THAT should be quite doable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dysphoric Kitten Posted July 29, 2013 Report Share Posted July 29, 2013 Could you please convert the Feruchemical metals to their Feruchemical insignia (can be found on the coppermind)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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