Ripheus23 Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 (edited) Would be a great twist, though when/where/why, not sure. Surely if Nightblood is of her power, she should be Connected to the remnant of Ruin therein, to some degree? Or would the flow not work? Maybe Endowment is Trell and is attacking Scadrial due to being warped during/because of the creation of Nightblood, during which she herself mediated the absorption of Ruin's Investiture, imprinting something of that Investiture on her? EDIT: And it's Scadrial that's under attack (and not just *some* world) because that's where Ruin was focused. Edited August 17, 2019 by Ripheus23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karger Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Ripheus23 said: Would be a great twist, though when/where/why, not sure. Surely if Nightblood is of her power, she should be Connected to the remnant of Ruin therein, to some degree? Or would the flow not work? Maybe Endowment is Trell and is attacking Scadrial due to being warped during/because of the creation of Nightblood, during which she herself mediated the absorption of Ruin's Investiture, imprinting something of that Investiture on her? EDIT: And it's Scadrial that's under attack (and not just *some* world) because that's where Ruin was focused. My understanding is that Endowment's breath investiture was converted to Ruin's by Shashara's intent during the awakening procedure. While everything is connected to everything else mere connection to something does not always affect you in the way your thinking of. Also if that was how this worked then wouldn't Odium by corrupted by Honor and Cultivation due to the several times he has connected with their magic systems? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ripheus23 Posted August 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Karger said: My understanding is that Endowment's breath investiture was converted to Ruin's by Shashara's intent during the awakening procedure. While everything is connected to everything else mere connection to something does not always affect you in the way your thinking of. Also if that was how this worked then wouldn't Odium by corrupted by Honor and Cultivation due to the several times he has connected with their magic systems? He is bound to Roshar, at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karger Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Ripheus23 said: He is bound to Roshar, at least. What about his voidspren. He uses Honor's investiture to bind them to singers. Also he is bound to Braize not Roshar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ripheus23 Posted August 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, Karger said: What about his voidspren. He uses Honor's investiture to bind them to singers. Also he is bound to Braize not Roshar. I thought he was bound to the Roshar star system? Idk actually... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karger Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 15 hours ago, Ripheus23 said: I thought he was bound to the Roshar star system? Idk actually... Well he is a shard so he is omnipresent in certain ways but Honor and Cultivation sealed him on Braize. It is the Heralds that are bound to the Rosharan system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mailnaise Posted August 19, 2019 Report Share Posted August 19, 2019 On 8/17/2019 at 6:00 PM, Karger said: Also if that was how this worked then wouldn't Odium by corrupted by Honor and Cultivation due to the several times he has connected with their magic systems? Also wouldn't that make Honor and Cultivation corrupted by Odium? It would have to go both ways...or rather three ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karger Posted August 19, 2019 Report Share Posted August 19, 2019 2 hours ago, Mailnaise said: Also wouldn't that make Honor and Cultivation corrupted by Odium? It would have to go both ways...or rather three ways. This is why I don't think this theory works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elegy Posted August 19, 2019 Report Share Posted August 19, 2019 On 18.8.2019 at 1:01 AM, Ripheus23 said: Maybe Endowment is Trell and is attacking Scadrial due to being warped during/because of the creation of Nightblood, during which she herself mediated the absorption of Ruin's Investiture, imprinting something of that Investiture on her? EDIT: And it's Scadrial that's under attack (and not just *some* world) because that's where Ruin was focused. Trell is not Endowment: Quote Questioner Is the metal that Bleeder was associated with and had, is the Shard associated with that metal the same entity that's calling itself Trell? Brandon Sanderson Yes. Oathbringer Portland signing (Nov. 16, 2017) Quote Questioner The spike at the end of Shadows of Self, does that have anything to do with Endowment. Brandon Sanderson That is not from Endowment, I can go ahead and let you know that. Shadows of Self Portland signing (Oct. 10, 2015) Also, Endowment's letter to Hoid seems to imply that she is very commited to the pact of Shards not contacting each other, going as far as implying that the vessels Odium killed deserved what they got. This theory would require a drastic change of heart in that regard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ripheus23 Posted August 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2019 57 minutes ago, Elegy said: That is not from Endowment, I can go ahead and let you know that. Argh!!! RIP evil-Endowment theory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toaster Retribution Posted August 19, 2019 Report Share Posted August 19, 2019 Endowment could very well become an antagonist, however I doubt she will be an outright villain. She might attempt to stop Shards from cooperating for example, or attempt to stop whatever Hoid is up to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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