TheWanderer Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 (edited) Alright had a crazy ideas and felt like sharing. Something always bugged me about shinovar, we know they have a collection of honorblades and that their home is far to the west and experiences very mild highstorms (Which originate in the east). Furthermore they seem to consider both stormlight and stone sacred. Anyway a question came to me rather recently. How do they train honorblades users in their abilities which require vast amounts of stormlight? While a certain amount could be explained through trade and hoarding, their is still likely a lack of stormlight in their area. So I couldn't help but wonder where they get enough investiture, hence why I am making the logical jump that honor's shardpool is there (i am aware the coppermind says his perpendicularity has no set location but I don't know if that is word of Brandon or not). When Dalinar summoned honor's perpendicularity vast amounts of stormlight came out, while i doubt this would be the same in shinovar a consistent leaking of investiture from the perpendicularity might explain how they have enough stormlight for things like using honorblades and trade. Also this would not be too shocking as shinovar is the lands given to humanity when they came to roshar and found honor. Also this is not unprecedented as on scaladarial preservation's shardpool slowly accumulated investiture into the beads of lerasium. So That is my theory on where Honor's perpendicularity may be. Hope you enjoyed. Edited August 15, 2019 by TheWanderer 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightwaker.exe Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 That actually sounds plausible, but then how did Dalinar create Honor's perpendicularity? Did he just take the Perpendicularity from the Shin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karger Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 (edited) 46 minutes ago, TheWanderer said: How do they train honorblades users in their abilities which require vast amounts of stormlight? You can still charge spheres in Shinovar during the highstorm. Honor's perpendicularity moves according to Azure. 16 minutes ago, Nightwaker.exe said: That actually sounds plausible, but then how did Dalinar create Honor's perpendicularity? Did he just take the Perpendicularity from the Shin? A shard can have more then one perpendicularity at a time. Edited August 15, 2019 by Karger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weltall Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 Honor's Perpendicularity literally moves, it has no fixed location. This is why Dalinar is able to open it up in Thaylen City. Earlier in the book during the 'so, how do we get out of Shadesmar' discussion Azure mentions that the spren know of Honor's Perpendicularity but its location is unpredictable and it's dangerous to go looking for. If it was even semi-fixed in Shinovar (which would contradict everything that's been said about it in and out of universe) the spren would know that; Just because they rarely appear there doesn't mean they're non-existant. As for how the Shin get stormlight to train with, the same way everybody else does. The fact that the highstorms are considerably weaker doesn't mean they don't infuse gemstones. Quote FieryXJoe Would empty perfect gemstones left in Shinovar and New Natanatan during a highstorm have different amounts of Stormlight? Brandon Sanderson Excellent question. No, they would not. Strength of the storm is not tied directly to the amount of Stormlight invested. (Though there are in-world easterners who would insist otherwise.) Skyward Pre-Release AMA (Oct. 29, 2018) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karger Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 7 minutes ago, Weltall said: As for how the Shin get stormlight to train with, the same way everybody else does. The fact that the highstorms are considerably weaker doesn't mean they don't infuse gemstones. That was the WoB I was looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightwaker.exe Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 1 10 minutes ago, Karger said: A shard can have more then one perpendicularity at a time. reALLY? No way! If that's the case, then... wow. Ok, that opens an endless opportunity for different things. Is there a finite number of perpendicularities that shards can have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karger Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Nightwaker.exe said: Technically yes but the number is meaningless. The Shard must simply get enough investiture in one place however they want to and you get a perpendicularity. Shards have a lot of investiture so they can form a perpendicularity whenever they want to assuming they are not busy or too invested in one place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightwaker.exe Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 Ah. So it's less a Perpendicularity and more an enormous amount of Investiture. Gotcha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karger Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 Just now, Nightwaker.exe said: Ah. So it's less a Perpendicularity and more an enormous amount of Investiture. A perpendicularity is just an enormous amount of investiture. A star or black hole is just an enormous amount of mass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightwaker.exe Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 Just now, Karger said: A perpendicularity is just an enormous amount of investiture. A star or black hole is just an enormous amount of mass. Aight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWanderer Posted August 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 Didn't know some of these been awhile since i read stormlight. Thanks for the updates and the words of Brandon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karger Posted August 16, 2019 Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 6 hours ago, TheWanderer said: Didn't know some of these been awhile since i read stormlight. Thanks for the updates and the words of Brandon. (On behave of everyone)Of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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