Halyo_Alex Posted July 26, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2019 3 hours ago, Karger said: I am fairly sure that Harmony is preventing Trell from doing that. But then the question becomes CAN Harmony prevent Trell from doing that? I mean if the red aura we see around the whole world in BoM is any indication, no, he hasn't stopped Trell from doing that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karger Posted July 26, 2019 Report Share Posted July 26, 2019 27 minutes ago, Halyo_Alex said: But then the question becomes CAN Harmony prevent Trell from doing that? I mean if the red aura we see around the whole world in BoM is any indication, no, he hasn't stopped Trell from doing that... Reread the section. The energy is strangling the world. Harmony seems to be preventing it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brasidas Posted July 27, 2019 Report Share Posted July 27, 2019 Perhaps all of this comes back to the hacking. If one ignores Paalm, then Trellium may only be allomantically/feruchemically/hemalurgically viable via hacking. Wait. Just remembered something. If Paalm needed a steel spike, for example, to steal Idishway(?)s Feruchemical speed, then didn't she have two spikes? One of steel or whatever else she was using, and one of Trellium? If so, that could explain the lack of glowing red eyes. Maybe it didn't count as hacking enough for that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cometaryorbit Posted July 28, 2019 Report Share Posted July 28, 2019 On 7/26/2019 at 9:01 AM, Karger said: I am fairly sure that Harmony is preventing Trell from doing that. Harmony doesn't seem to know what Trellium is, from what MeLaan says in Shadows of Self. So I'm not sure that he can. On 7/26/2019 at 0:54 PM, Karger said: Reread the section. The energy is strangling the world. Harmony seems to be preventing it. I read that part as representing Sazed stopping a "direct" destructive attack on Scadrial. He might be able to stop an overt attack (eg, destroying the planet or making it uninhabitable, or a full scale invasion) or a full scale Investing in the planet to the degree that Harmony is Invested in it, but not a small degree of Investment (enough to create a few hemalurgic spikes of condensed 'Trell' investiture) or a couple of worldhopping "red-eyed Faceless Immortals" popping in. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garlick Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 A bead of lerasium a little bit of trellium and you have someone who can burn the God metal. Easier said then done but another way to be able to burn it. No Mistborn needed...just have to figure out how to make lerasium again 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halyo_Alex Posted August 7, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 1 hour ago, garlick said: A bead of lerasium a little bit of trellium and you have someone who can burn the God metal. Easier said then done but another way to be able to burn it. No Mistborn needed...just have to figure out how to make lerasium again Iirc only Preservation can choose to deposit some of its Investiture as Lerasium. Actually would it even be called Lerasium in era 2? Would it be like... An isotope of Harmonium with just Preservative Investiture rather than both? Same for Atium... Interesting. Harmonium-P and Harmonium-R. Preservation and Ruin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacThorstenson Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 Just chiming in quickly here, don’t we find out that mistborn can burn any metal in Era one? Just that the non Allomantic ones don’t have an effect and make the mistborn sick or kill them? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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