+TheFoxQR Posted July 20, 2019 Report Share Posted July 20, 2019 (edited) I found these WoBs, and they are extremely intriguing: Quote Snote85 Is Nohadon a herald. There are tons and tons of little things that make me think this. Like the KR have the Way of Kings to base their views and policies on. Which, as was stated, was written by him. In Dalinar's vision of Nohadon, he says things about surgebindings and implies the man he's speaking to is a leader of an order, like he himself is. We know, from the WoR (In world) excerpts, that all the orders were lead by the heralds, after a time anyway. That's my reasoning, not that you need it, if it's true or not true. I just thought I might clarify why I came to that conclusion. Brandon Sanderson Nohadon is not a Herald, but I can see what lead you to think otherwise. Let's just say that even among kings and surgebinders, he was someone special. General Reddit 2017 (Feb. 10, 2017) Quote Questioner So Nohadon's still alive, right? Brandon Sanderson RAFO! Why would you say that Nohadon is still alive? Questioner I know he's still alive. Brandon Sanderson Why would you say he's still alive? Questioner It's the perfect trick, that you're gonna bring back Nohadon. It's my feeling about things. Words of Radiance Philadelphia signing (March 21, 2014) Brandon's reaction to the second question is telling us something, though I don't know what that something is. What's going on with Nohadon? Was he a Radiant? Is there a connection between him and Kaladin, the primary protagonist of SA1: The Way of Kings, titled after Nohadon's book in-world? Is there something to the Child of Tanavast thingy and this? Edit: umhh I accidentally created 10 thousand of these, can a moderator remove the extraneous ones? Edit 2: I hid the duplicates Edited July 20, 2019 by TheFoxQR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ripheus23 Posted July 20, 2019 Report Share Posted July 20, 2019 Perhaps Honor knew he would die and so planned for a new Vessel, and Nohadon was to be that Vessel? If you think about it, Nohadon is like all the good in Kaladin plus all the good in Dalinar, maybe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toaster Retribution Posted July 20, 2019 Report Share Posted July 20, 2019 There is the Nohadon vision in OB too, where Nohadon goes shopping, I think. There is defenitely something up with him. I think he will appear in present Roshar in some shape or form. A cognitive shadow maybe? I could see him returning in 5. He has a connection with Dalinar, and 5 was almost Dalinars book, so it would make sense for him to be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShardShaper Posted July 20, 2019 Report Share Posted July 20, 2019 What about the part in the end of OB? Where he goes "I started the journey alone, and I ended the journey alone, but I did not walk alone" That stinks of Hoid, a KR spren, or some form of herald. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nymeros Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 (edited) Basically, Tanavast stepped out on Cultivation, Zeus style, and had a bastard son. That son is Nohadon....and no Tanavast and Cultivation were not on a break. Edited July 21, 2019 by Nymeros Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karger Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 I personally think that Nohodon is "just" an idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsecaller_17.5 Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 I strongly believe that Nohodon is a bondsmith. From what we know of his personality I don’t think he would match terribly well with the Stormfather or Nightwatcher, so maybe the sibling? I do think there’s merit to @Karger idea. He could definitely be an Arthurian figure who’s 99% myth and 1% truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karger Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Truthwatcher_17.5 said: I strongly believe that Nohodon is a bondsmith. From what we know of his personality I don’t think he would match terribly well with the Stormfather or Nightwatcher, so maybe the sibling? I do think there’s merit to @Karger idea. He could definitely be an Arthurian figure who’s 99% myth and 1% truth. I agree that to Dalinar Nohodon is now a bondsmith weather or not the historical figure that Dalinar refers to as Nohodon was actually a bondsmith. I do think that at least some of the quotes attributed to him probably did come from a historical figure with somewhat similar beliefs but I do think that Dalinar's perception is influencing him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ripheus23 Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 (edited) 17 hours ago, Nymeros said: Basically, Tanavast stepped out on Cultivation, Zeus style, and had a bastard son. That son is Nohadon....and no Tanavast and Cultivation were not on a break. What if Nohadon was Odium's son somehow? Actually, what if the evil champion Is Mr. T and Dalinar, whose own champion in the 'personal hero' sense Nohadon, out of wishful thinking decided to appoint Nohadon as the champion against Odium, which would resurrect Nohadon, and Idk... Two robed politicians fighting or what haha Edited July 21, 2019 by Ripheus23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TheFoxQR Posted July 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 Look at the Nohadon vision in OB. It does feel like Dalinar is talking to Nohadon in realtime. Also, one curious thing is Nohadon reminds Dalinar of Taravangian. Make of that what you will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scion of the Mists Posted July 23, 2019 Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 On 7/20/2019 at 5:06 AM, TheFoxQR said: IBrandon's reaction to the second question is telling us something, though I don't know what that something is. Brandon RAFOing a question doesn't tell us anything. It's the Brandon equivalent of "no comment." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agrabes Posted July 23, 2019 Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 26 minutes ago, Scion of the Mists said: Brandon RAFOing a question doesn't tell us anything. It's the Brandon equivalent of "no comment." Yeah, to me the response is more surprise than anything. Like - he's trying to figure out what, if anything, from the text could have given someone that impression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subvisual Haze Posted July 23, 2019 Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 I think there's a decent chance that Hoid was the ghostwriter for The Way of Kings. The way it uses short story/parables to convey complex questions to the listener is pure Wit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frustration Posted July 27, 2019 Report Share Posted July 27, 2019 I agree this does smell of wit, however I don't think they are one and the same I think it is more likely that Nohadon came from another world, and was a mistborn or something of that nature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersmith Posted July 28, 2019 Report Share Posted July 28, 2019 What if Nohadon was a world hopper, and has enough breath to extend his life? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TheFoxQR Posted July 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2019 (edited) I'm personally leaning towards some sort of Cognitive Shadow, "hiding" and fighting Cultivation's silent war. Maybe even a Spiritual Shadow of some sort. Edited July 30, 2019 by TheFoxQR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ripheus23 Posted July 28, 2019 Report Share Posted July 28, 2019 OMG what if Nohadon was an Avatar of Honor?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karger Posted July 29, 2019 Report Share Posted July 29, 2019 18 hours ago, Ripheus23 said: OMG what if Nohadon was an Avatar of Honor?! I don't think so. It is certainly possible considering how little we actually know about the guy but I would personally prefer a reflective human. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Child of Hodor Posted July 29, 2019 Report Share Posted July 29, 2019 On 7/21/2019 at 0:35 PM, Truthwatcher_17.5 said: I strongly believe that Nohodon is a bondsmith. From what we know of his personality I don’t think he would match terribly well with the Stormfather or Nightwatcher, so maybe the sibling? I do think there’s merit to @Karger idea. He could definitely be an Arthurian figure who’s 99% myth and 1% truth. I think he's Bondsmith as well. As for what's up with him appearing Dalinar's dream, there is this idea of a Spiritual Corpse Brandon talks about. Maybe Dalinar is interacting with that. https://wob.coppermind.net/events/183/#e3910 "Even after a long time, there's a record of that spirit web in the spiritual realm." Because Dalinar is connected to Honor's remnants through the Stormfather, Dalinar may be able to interact with these spirit webs. Might be how he hears Evi. I think him having the dream of Gavilar at the end of WoR where a blinding light ends it and Nohadon's dream where there is a blinding light at the start are due to the same thing. I think the light is Honor's power, like how everyone (except Odium) has to shield their eyes when Dalinar is forming Honor's perpendicularity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karger Posted July 29, 2019 Report Share Posted July 29, 2019 9 minutes ago, Child of Hodor said: I think he's Bondsmith as well. He could be a Bondsmith and a real historical person. I am not sure weather I like that but that is also fine theory wise. The truth is that just about any theory is still valid as the things we actually know about him are minimal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeker861 Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 What if Nohodon was a Radiant who had formed a Nahel bond with Honor himself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karger Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, Seeker861 said: What if Nohodon was a Radiant who had formed a Nahel bond with Honor himself? Honor was a person already. How would you bond him? That kind of implies a romantic connection BTW. Edited August 11, 2019 by Karger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ripheus23 Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 28 minutes ago, Karger said: Honor was a person already. How would you bond him? That kind of implies a romantic connection BTW. Mmm Nonor/Hohadon 'ship, mmm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Inquisitive Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 51 minutes ago, Karger said: Honor was a person already. How would you bond him? That kind of implies a romantic connection BTW. I mean, cognitive shadows can form nahel bonds, so not sure if a shard absolutely couldn't... Also why would it be romantic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karger Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 3 hours ago, Steel Inquisitive said: Also why would it be romantic? The only record of anything like this was in Mistborn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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