ShardShaper Posted April 10, 2019 Report Share Posted April 10, 2019 WARNING The following contains spoilers about Parshendi anatomy & Oathbringer. You have been warned Do Parshendi have gemhearts? If they did, it would explain a LOT of things. For one, at the beginning of "The way of Kings" Szeth says that "Voidbringers could hold [stormlight] perfectly". Now, if we assume that this refers to the Parshendi, this could be because of Parshendi anatomy. OR, it could be because they store it in a gemheart. Parshendi can also switch forms by bonding with spren. Most assume that this is because of a form of nahel bond. BUT, what if the spren ACTUALLY went into their gemheart, and turned them into some kind of "Living fabrial". This would also explain how the Fused posses the Singers in oathbringer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunamor Posted April 10, 2019 Report Share Posted April 10, 2019 (edited) Yep, they do have gemhearts. They are where the voidbringer spren reside. They spren they bond to change forms are located in their gemhearts. Venli’s Radiant spren also resides in her gemheart. Edited April 10, 2019 by Lunamor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vogelsang Posted April 10, 2019 Report Share Posted April 10, 2019 Howdy! I'm not Texan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowLord_Lith Posted April 10, 2019 Report Share Posted April 10, 2019 38 minutes ago, [email protected] said: WARNING The following contains spoilers about Parshendi anatomy & Oathbringer. You have been warned Do Parshendi have gemhearts? If they did, it would explain a LOT of things. For one, at the beginning of "The way of Kings" Szeth says that "Voidbringers could hold [stormlight] perfectly". Now, if we assume that this refers to the Parshendi, this could be because of Parshendi anatomy. OR, it could be because they store it in a gemheart. Parshendi can also switch forms by bonding with spren. Most assume that this is because of a form of nahel bond. BUT, what if the spren ACTUALLY went into their gemheart, and turned them into some kind of "Living fabrial". This would also explain how the Fused posses the Singers in oathbringer. I think he said the original knights radiant... I could be wrong, but I don't see why he'd reference the voidbringers in the middle of a fight where he was using his radiant powers to kill, and where he lamented the killing. I think he also said they were far better containers, not perfect ones. Unless I'm very mistaken... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Doomstick Posted April 10, 2019 Report Share Posted April 10, 2019 @[email protected] this is the introducing part of this forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scion of the Mists Posted April 11, 2019 Report Share Posted April 11, 2019 @ShardShaper Welcome to the Shard! Parshendi do indeed have gemhearts, good catch. You can find out more info on their Coppermind page: https://coppermind.net/wiki/Singer#Gemheart. P.s. Regarding spoilers: spoiler warnings are not required if you are posting in that book's specific forums (so unmarked Stormlight spoilers are okay here but not in the Mistborn forum). If you are posting cross-book spoilers, you can use the button that looks like an eye to insert a spoiler box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RShara Posted April 11, 2019 Report Share Posted April 11, 2019 On 4/10/2019 at 2:16 PM, ShardShaper said: WARNING The following contains spoilers about Parshendi anatomy & Oathbringer. You have been warned Do Parshendi have gemhearts? If they did, it would explain a LOT of things. For one, at the beginning of "The way of Kings" Szeth says that "Voidbringers could hold [stormlight] perfectly". Now, if we assume that this refers to the Parshendi, this could be because of Parshendi anatomy. OR, it could be because they store it in a gemheart. Parshendi can also switch forms by bonding with spren. Most assume that this is because of a form of nahel bond. BUT, what if the spren ACTUALLY went into their gemheart, and turned them into some kind of "Living fabrial". This would also explain how the Fused posses the Singers in oathbringer. All the singers have gemhearts. This is confirmed by Venli in Oathbringer. She describes it as small, cloudy white, almost the color of bone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daanan Posted May 27, 2019 Report Share Posted May 27, 2019 I don't know if this is confirmed, but I find it likely that any creature native to Roshar probably has some kind of gemheart. Ryshadium in particular have a spren bond similar to greatshells, (part of the reason they both grow so large compared to other creatures like them,) which is tantamount to a declaration for me that they have gemhearts. Honestly, that should have been clue enough to see Brandon's revelation coming as to why the Knights Radiant disbanded... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wanderer Posted May 27, 2019 Report Share Posted May 27, 2019 8 minutes ago, daanan said: I don't know if this is confirmed, but I find it likely that any creature native to Roshar probably has some kind of gemheart. Ryshadium in particular have a spren bond similar to greatshells, (part of the reason they both grow so large compared to other creatures like them,) which is tantamount to a declaration for me that they have gemhearts. Honestly, that should have been clue enough to see Brandon's revelation coming as to why the Knights Radiant disbanded... Yeah, if you reread knowing that humans were the original invaders, you start to see things don't quite add up, such as everything else having both a gemheart and having adapted in some way to life with the highstorms, while humans just.. haven't. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scion of the Mists Posted May 28, 2019 Report Share Posted May 28, 2019 15 hours ago, daanan said: I don't know if this is confirmed, but I find it likely that any creature native to Roshar probably has some kind of gemheart. Ryshadium in particular have a spren bond similar to greatshells, (part of the reason they both grow so large compared to other creatures like them,) which is tantamount to a declaration for me that they have gemhearts. Honestly, that should have been clue enough to see Brandon's revelation coming as to why the Knights Radiant disbanded... I agree that all/most native species have gemhearts - but the Ryshadium aren't native. They have begun to form spren bonds, but they came with the humans. Quote Questioner I'm really curious about Ryshadium. Is there something bigger about them? Brandon Sanderson It's not super-huge. They are non-native species who have started to form spren bonds like native species do. So, a symbiotic bond with a spren has started happening. Ryshadium are horses that have done that, basically. You could say that humans have done the same thing. Non-native species that have started to form spren bonds. The Ryshadium are the only other non-native species that that has started happening. Like the chasmfiends have a symbiotic relationship with the spren that they have, the Ryshadium have a spren. It's not as visible, but it is there. Idaho Falls signing (July 21, 2018) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Quazzi Posted May 31, 2019 Report Share Posted May 31, 2019 On 5/27/2019 at 6:56 PM, The Wanderer said: Yeah, if you reread knowing that humans were the original invaders, you start to see things don't quite add up, such as everything else having both a gemheart and having adapted in some way to life with the highstorms, while humans just.. haven't. Yes, after the reveal I was kicking myself for not seeing it. Brandon gave obvious hints by having it mentioned several times how horses didn’t fit with other Rosharan animals and if you think about humans neither do they. I’m beginning to believe all if not most native Roshar beings have gemstones and a natural bond with spren. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arith Matic Posted May 31, 2019 Report Share Posted May 31, 2019 Yes. Aren't the gemhearts how they adopt forms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lidolas Posted May 31, 2019 Report Share Posted May 31, 2019 I can't remember which book or who said it, but wasn't it mentioned that when the war first started humans were harvesting the Parshendi gemhearts after battles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Quazzi Posted May 31, 2019 Report Share Posted May 31, 2019 2 hours ago, Lidolas said: I can't remember which book or who said it, but wasn't it mentioned that when the war first started humans were harvesting the Parshendi gemhearts after battles? I could be wrong but I it was the gems in their beards they were harvesting after battles. Remember the male Listeners wear gems in their beards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karger Posted May 31, 2019 Report Share Posted May 31, 2019 5 minutes ago, TruthlessGancho said: I could be wrong but I it was the gems in their beards they were harvesting after battles. Remember the male Listeners wear gems in their beards. Not what he meant. The old songs talk about humans hunting singer gemhearts during the desolation. This is why disturbing the dead is a taboo in singer culture. As to the gemstones in their beards I belive that those come from greatshells like the casmfiends. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Quazzi Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 On 5/31/2019 at 3:23 PM, Karger said: Not what he meant. The old songs talk about humans hunting singer gemhearts during the desolation. This is why disturbing the dead is a taboo in singer culture. As to the gemstones in their beards I belive that those come from greatshells like the casmfiends. Opps might have misinterpreted the meaning. I was thinking of a Dalinar pov from WOK when it was mentioned how the Alethi made a point to send people into the chasms to collect the gems the male Listeners wore in their beards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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