Lopen Armblessed Posted March 25, 2019 Report Share Posted March 25, 2019 So, if a shardblade (that of a radiant, of course) could be summoned as a hammer or a shield, could it be summoned as a suit of armor? There's already Shardplate but since shardblades are indestructcable you could have an indestuctable suit of armor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderis Posted March 25, 2019 Report Share Posted March 25, 2019 Possibly... But it would need to be solid. Moving parts involve multiple parts, so that's a no go. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beantheboy12 Posted March 25, 2019 Report Share Posted March 25, 2019 So if a windrunner made a sphere around himself and rolled down the tower, would he just smash thousands? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderis Posted March 25, 2019 Report Share Posted March 25, 2019 A sphere has no cutting edges... So probably not 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beantheboy12 Posted March 25, 2019 Report Share Posted March 25, 2019 Well, not cut through. Smash through. It just seems OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inky Posted March 25, 2019 Report Share Posted March 25, 2019 I think there's a limit to how big Shardweapons can get Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderis Posted March 25, 2019 Report Share Posted March 25, 2019 21 minutes ago, AonBene said: Well, not cut through. Smash through. It just seems OP. Why would it smash through any better than a hollow ball of any other material? It would be lighter than a steel ball of that size, and should act like it. Take away the cutting edge, and you negate a lot of the OP advantages of shardweapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beantheboy12 Posted March 25, 2019 Report Share Posted March 25, 2019 True. *feels a click in his head* What if shardblade forms are limited to roughly the height of a man? Because, I mean, what would stop a radiant from making a 30 foot blade and cutting through lines upon lines of men? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderis Posted March 25, 2019 Report Share Posted March 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, AonBene said: True. *feels a click in his head* What if shardblade forms are limited to roughly the height of a man? Because, I mean, what would stop a radiant from making a 30 foot blade and cutting through lines upon lines of men? They are. Quote Questioner We've seen that the "Sylblade" can change shape to fit Kaladin's needs. Is there a limit on the size of the blade that Syl can become? Brandon Sanderson Yes. Questioner Okay. And can you share with me what the upper limits on those sort of things would be? Brandon Sanderson Upper limits of hers are about human-sized. Questioner Is it always going to be something that has to be a fighting utensil, or does it have to...? Brandon Sanderson That's going to RAFO. You'll have to see. [...] I will say this. You have seen Syl changing shape from the first time she appears onscreen and she is frequently not a weapon. Footnote: Edgedancer answers this fairly unequivically with the shard-rod and shard-forkWords of Radiance Seattle signing (March 8, 2014) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man moomba Posted March 25, 2019 Report Share Posted March 25, 2019 2 hours ago, Calderis said: Possibly... But it would need to be solid. Moving parts involve multiple parts, so that's a no go. The fascinating thing about living Shardblades is that they can instantly change their shape based on their wielder's needs. Imagine you had a Shardgauntlet that could move with your hand. Or storms, a full suit of armor. (Like the funny nanotech suit in Infinity war) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beantheboy12 Posted March 25, 2019 Report Share Posted March 25, 2019 Just now, Dr. Dapper said: Like the funny nanotech suit in Infinity war) Did you listen to shardplate cast? They talked about it so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderis Posted March 25, 2019 Report Share Posted March 25, 2019 15 minutes ago, Dr. Dapper said: The fascinating thing about living Shardblades is that they can instantly change their shape based on their wielder's needs. Imagine you had a Shardgauntlet that could move with your hand. Or storms, a full suit of armor. (Like the funny nanotech suit in Infinity war) This assumes that it would be as unbreakable and amazing while shifting as it normally is... Which I find unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Croaker's Apprentice Posted March 25, 2019 Report Share Posted March 25, 2019 And there I was, thinking that this post was going to be about a new documentary protocol on Roshar...Forms to be completed - properly and in triplicate - before you could apply to summon a Shardblade. Perhaps the greatest foe of the KR...not Odium, but Bureaucracy ! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantus Posted March 25, 2019 Report Share Posted March 25, 2019 9 hours ago, Calderis said: They are. He's fairly specific that the upper limits of Syl are about human sized, which is also the biggest we've seen her manifest in human shape. Makes me think that others, like perhaps her aunt, that have shown larger forms could become larger weapons. 30 minutes ago, Croaker's Apprentice said: Perhaps the greatest foe of the KR...not Odium, but Bureaucracy ! "You've always worried about this, havent you? That the world would come to be ruled by pens and scribes, not swords and generals." (Stormfather, OB, Ch 65) 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ryshadium Posted March 25, 2019 Report Share Posted March 25, 2019 You could probably summon them as a gauntlet or something. We know how awesome Kaladin was with the helmet-gauntlet and a Syl gauntlet would be indestructible and wouldn't drain stormlight like normal shardplate. To be honest, this sort of fighting style might only be useful to him in cases where he doesn't have/can't use that much stormlight though. .....Also, a shield would be better now that think about it. Storms! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lidolas Posted March 25, 2019 Report Share Posted March 25, 2019 3 hours ago, Croaker's Apprentice said: And there I was, thinking that this post was going to be about a new documentary protocol on Roshar...Forms to be completed - properly and in triplicate - before you could apply to summon a Shardblade. Perhaps the greatest foe of the KR...not Odium, but Bureaucracy ! Good thing Odium Unmade a Vogon. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vogon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vargo Seldon Posted March 26, 2019 Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 On 3/25/2019 at 10:25 AM, The Ryshadium said: You could probably summon them as a gauntlet or something. We know how awesome Kaladin was with the helmet-gauntlet and a Syl gauntlet would be indestructible and wouldn't drain stormlight like normal shardplate. To be honest, this sort of fighting style might only be useful to him in cases where he doesn't have/can't use that much stormlight though. .....Also, a shield would be better now that think about it. Storms! He did summon Syl as a shield at one point while fighting Szeth above the shattered plains. 23 hours ago, Lidolas said: Good thing Odium Unmade a Vogon. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vogon Ahh yes. Giant yellow spaceships terrorizing Roshar. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ryshadium Posted March 26, 2019 Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 4 hours ago, Vargo Seldon said: He did summon Syl as a shield at one point while fighting Szeth above the shattered plains. Ahh yes. Giant yellow spaceships terrorizing Roshar. Oh yeah! I thought I remembered something like that but I wasn't sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karger Posted March 26, 2019 Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 On 3/24/2019 at 11:39 PM, beantheboy12 said: What if shardblade forms are limited to roughly the height of a man? Because, I mean, what would stop a radiant from making a 30 foot blade and cutting through lines upon lines of men? Leverage. Long objects are very hard to hold(try hanging on to a thirty foot pole sometime). Also if the enemy grabs the other end which you would have a hard time swinging quickly so lastclasp you are in trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jozomby Posted March 27, 2019 Report Share Posted March 27, 2019 (edited) 16 hours ago, Karger said: Leverage. Long objects are very hard to hold(try hanging on to a thirty foot pole sometime). Also if the enemy grabs the other end which you would have a hard time swinging quickly so lastclasp you are in trouble. I am now imagining a shard-chainsaw. Specifically a 30 foot long one. Edited March 27, 2019 by Jozomby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scion of the Mists Posted March 27, 2019 Report Share Posted March 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Jozomby said: I am now imagining a shard-chainsaw. Specifically a 30 foot long one. Spren can turn into basically any shape, but only one object at a time. Thus no moving parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jozomby Posted March 27, 2019 Report Share Posted March 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Scion of the Mists said: Spren can turn into basically any shape, but only one object at a time. Thus no moving parts. Putting aside the fact that a 30 foot long chainsaw is way past the size limit, it just might be possible. I kind of want to ask Brandon about it . Earlier someone mentioned the idea of a spren weapon constantly changing shape - like, a gauntlet that would change shape as you move your hand. If that's possible, then you could totally do a chainsaw. If you have the ability to constantly mutate the shape of an object, there's no need for moving parts. Just make the shape, and then have the spren move the bits around the edges as if they were a spinning chain. Ridiculous, yes, but I wonder... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karger Posted March 27, 2019 Report Share Posted March 27, 2019 Shardblades already cut through everything. Why chainsaw? If you can get a WoB do not ask this question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lopen Armblessed Posted April 4, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2019 On 3/26/2019 at 4:57 PM, Karger said: Leverage. Long objects are very hard to hold(try hanging on to a thirty foot pole sometime). Also if the enemy grabs the other end which you would have a hard time swinging quickly so lastclasp you are in trouble. The books say that a shardblade isn't that heavy but when it changes into a shield it is the same weight. Now, shields are usually heavier than swords but in shard form they are equal. When Kaladin changes Syl to a knife I don't think Brandon said anything about weight but with the sword shield ratio we can assume the knife was the same weight as the sword. This would mean that you wouldn't need a lot of leverage with a 30 foot long sword as is weighs the same as a normal sword. But this point is moot anyway since there is a limit on how large a shardblade can be. (I actually haven't read the books in a long time so if you could come up with some text that would be great) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karger Posted April 5, 2019 Report Share Posted April 5, 2019 41 minutes ago, Clever Username said: This would mean that you wouldn't need a lot of leverage with a 30 foot long sword as is weighs the same as a normal sword Look up torque Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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