SwordNimiForPresident Posted March 12, 2019 Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 Ignoring all of the practical things a Mistborn could do with the ability to create illusions, lets talk about how cool they would look. So I was thinking about how impractical Mistcloaks are and a really cool visual idea occurred to me. Imagine, as the title suggests, a Mistborn with access to Lightweaving (any kind, not necessarily Stormlight). They could create a Mistcloak with their Lightweaving that doesn't make noise and can't be grabbed or snagged. This made me think of a scene in The Wheel of Time where one of the Forsaken (Mesana I think) appears to one of her minions. She covered herself in an illusion of black ribbons which twist and blow in a phantom wind (think Patterns head in cloak form). Apply that to the Mistcloak idea and you're left with a perfect garment for scaring guards Marasi, being sneaky looking cool, and brooding on top of Gothic architecture. As another benefit, you could burn pewter all the time to stay warm and just walk around naked with Lightwoven clothing. You could really mess with people by letting the illusion drop for a split second every once in a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karger Posted March 12, 2019 Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 I can't help but say that I can think of some cooler things to do then messing with people by being in the nude for a split second. Could a lightweaving mistborn create several versions of themselves flying in different directions and fool an atium burner? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGirlWhoLookedUp Posted March 12, 2019 Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 I wonder if you can soulcast allomantic metals, because if so, being an Elsecaller and a Mistborn would be SO useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistweaver Posted March 12, 2019 Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 (edited) I was thinking that, too when I picked my user name! Edited March 12, 2019 by Mistweaver 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderis Posted March 12, 2019 Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 13 minutes ago, TheGirlWhoLookedUp said: I wonder if you can soulcast allomantic metals, because if so, being an Elsecaller and a Mistborn would be SO useful. As long as it's not a Godmetal absolutely. Quote Questioner If I were to impulsively Soulcast pewter, the way Shallan does with the blood in The Way of Kings, would it come out that an Allomancer be able to use it? Brandon Sanderson You could create Allomantically viable metals, yes. Questioner But is it automatic? Brandon Sanderson I would say that the pure metals are, but the alloys are not. Words of Radiance Chicago signing (March 22, 2014) Quote ninch Could a person Soulcast more atium and lerasium if they had a bead? Brandon Sanderson No. Investiture messes things like that up. General Signed Books 2014 (April 29, 2014) And just think. Hoid has both of those powers now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSuperLee Posted March 12, 2019 Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 Here is what I have to wonder. Let's say a lightweaver Mistborn soulcasts some metal and then uses a hack to let it fuel soulcasting. Would the Mistborn be able to have a net investiture gain as a result of directly tapping into Preservation's power? Anyway, on the point of illusions, as we know they can form basically any kind of wavelength, maybe they also could create illusionary bronze pulses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantus Posted March 12, 2019 Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 1 hour ago, HSuperLee said: Here is what I have to wonder. Let's say a lightweaver Mistborn soulcasts some metal and then uses a hack to let it fuel soulcasting. Would the Mistborn be able to have a net investiture gain as a result of directly tapping into Preservation's power? Anyway, on the point of illusions, as we know they can form basically any kind of wavelength, maybe they also could create illusionary bronze pulses. How would that hack work? For the compounding hack with feruchemy to work you need to burn a metal that has been charged with feruchemical investiture to make the investiture from Preservation act like that Feruchemy rather than standard allomancy. But soulcasting doesnt leave any charge in the item (unlike Forgery...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSuperLee Posted March 12, 2019 Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 51 minutes ago, Quantus said: How would that hack work? For the compounding hack with feruchemy to work you need to burn a metal that has been charged with feruchemical investiture to make the investiture from Preservation act like that Feruchemy rather than standard allomancy. But soulcasting doesnt leave any charge in the item (unlike Forgery...) Well that is the issue isn't it. We know hacks with other investitures are possible, such as fueling awakening with stormlight. The problem it seems is getting the investiture "undirected" or "directed to a different frequency" so to speak. I have no doubt someone burning mists could use them for the surges if they were a radiant, as that power is directed by the intention of the person burning it and the physical capabilities they have for magic. As for how to replicate that effect with normal metal, I have no idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jace21 Posted March 12, 2019 Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 (edited) Personally I think Soulcasting metal to use for allomancy, then using a hack to power Soulcasting with Allomancy would result in a net loss. I have no real evidence for it though, it's just my opinion. Edited March 12, 2019 by Jace21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderis Posted March 12, 2019 Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, Jace21 said: Personally I think Soulcasting metal to use for allomancy, then using a hack to power Soulcasting with Allomancy would result in a net loss. I have no real evidence for it though, it's just my opinion. Agreed. I don't think it would work out any better than Lift using progression to grow plants and then eating them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSuperLee Posted March 12, 2019 Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 17 minutes ago, Calderis said: Agreed. I don't think it would work out any better than Lift using progression to grow plants and then eating them. The difference though is that in Lift's case it's a closed loop, and thus entropy kicks in. That is not the case with allomancy as the metals themselves are not providing the investiture. I'm not saying I'm sure there would be a net gain, but there could be, and if there was it would be drawn from Preservation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scion of the Mists Posted March 12, 2019 Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 3 hours ago, Jace21 said: Personally I think Soulcasting metal to use for allomancy, then using a hack to power Soulcasting with Allomancy would result in a net loss. I have no real evidence for it though, it's just my opinion. I think that while Soulcasting seems to be fairly inefficient in general, Allomancy inherent efficiency would out weight it. The metals have a very high effective Investiture density because the power comes directly from Preservation. Just a few shavings can allow you to fly/fight/Soothe/have enhanced senses for hours. Jasnah's able to Soulcast entire bodies for not a ridiculous amount of Stormlight. Imagine how long you could fly via steelpushing using an entire person's worth of steel. Much, much longer than Kaladin could fly for using an equivalent amount of Stormlight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Mistborn Bondbreaker Posted March 12, 2019 Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 (edited) How about a Mistborn Skybreaker? Gravitation mixed with steel and iron is God-Level stuff; not to mention throwing burning coins. Besides, you would look EPIC. Edited March 12, 2019 by Lord Mistborn Skybreaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kramerfarve Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 Imagine the flight that could be achieved by a Crasher (Wax) /Windrunner combo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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