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I know that I'm fixating on this sort of topic -

what would happen if you were to create a hemalurgic spike out of a shard (the material that makes up shardblade/plate in the SA)? Assuming everything else works, even with the investiture and intent and whatever else I'm missing.

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Supposing that a skilled Hemalurgist got hold of some a Shardblade or some Shardplate, how would he best use it assuming that the best way isn't to put it on and kill people with it.

Brandon Sanderson

That's probably the best way, to put it on and kill people with it. I'm not sure why a Hemalurgist would want one more than anyone else would because the metal is already Invested which means its not useful to him.

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that wasn't the question though - if a spren became a hemalurgic spike instead if a shardblade. Not given the a blade and plate.

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17 minutes ago, Turin Turambar said:

that wasn't the question though - if a spren became a hemalurgic spike instead if a shardblade. Not given the a blade and plate.

They can't Investiture of one kind doesn't like to work with Investiture of another. Spren are made of Investiture and thus wouldn't be able to hold or transfer a Hemalurgic charge, so they'd just be a length of metal.

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A spren can't 'become' a hemalurgic spike. They could become a bit of pointy metal and be stabbed into somebody in the right place and by someone with the right Intent to do hemalurgy but... it wouldn't actually work to make a spike. Which is exactly the point of the WoB that @Shqueeves posted. They're so heavily Invested that there isn't room for them to hold a hemalurgic charge.

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10 hours ago, Weltall said:

A spren can't 'become' a hemalurgic spike. They could become a bit of pointy metal and be stabbed into somebody in the right place and by someone with the right Intent to do hemalurgy but... it wouldn't actually work to make a spike. Which is exactly the point of the WoB that @Shqueeves posted. They're so heavily Invested that there isn't room for them to hold a hemalurgic charge.

Aren't they exactly as Invested as atium or lerasium?  I thought that all the god metals would all work with the Metallic Arts, provided that you hacked the non-Scadrian ones.  

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49 minutes ago, Scion of the Mists said:

Aren't they exactly as Invested as atium or lerasium?  I thought that all the god metals would all work with the Metallic Arts, provided that you hacked the non-Scadrian ones.  

Atium can be pushed/pulled (as Kelsier does to destroy all the geodes in the Pits) while a Shardblade is so heavily Invested that you'd need a duralumin boost or something similar to get through all that Investiture interference.

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48 minutes ago, Weltall said:

Atium can be pushed/pulled (as Kelsier does to destroy all the geodes in the Pits) while a Shardblade is so heavily Invested that you'd need a duralumin boost or something similar to get through all that Investiture interference.

That's referring to affecting the metal with magic, not using it as a spike/burning it.  Didn't Brandon say something to the effect that god metals (e.g. Tanavastium or Trellium) can be used in the Metallic Arts, provided that the Shard does something to make it work?  

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11 hours ago, Scion of the Mists said:

That's referring to affecting the metal with magic, not using it as a spike/burning it.  Didn't Brandon say something to the effect that god metals (e.g. Tanavastium or Trellium) can be used in the Metallic Arts, provided that the Shard does something to make it work?  

To be burn a non-Scadrian Shards gometal you would need a connection to that Shard.

So a normal misborn couldn't do it. But Kal could probably swallow some Lerasium, become a Mistborn and burn Syl.

That was just an example, I would be horrified if that happened.

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