CJ Feboris Posted February 13, 2019 Report Share Posted February 13, 2019 Quick question. Did Shalan create a hemalurgic spike when she Spoiler Stabbed the horneater at the bar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantus Posted February 13, 2019 Report Share Posted February 13, 2019 Nope, it cant happen by accident. Hemalurgy only works if you know what you are doing and have the actual Intent to make a spike, so even if you manage to hit a correct Bind Point with the correct Alloy, it's just a normal stabbing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inky Posted February 13, 2019 Report Share Posted February 13, 2019 Should this be in Stormlight? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helwar Posted February 13, 2019 Report Share Posted February 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Quantus said: Nope, it cant happen by accident. Hemalurgy only works if you know what you are doing and have the actual Intent to make a spike, so even if you manage to hit a correct Bind Point with the correct Alloy, it's just a normal stabbing. But... What about Spook? That was totally accidental. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantus Posted February 13, 2019 Report Share Posted February 13, 2019 13 minutes ago, Helwar said: But... What about Spook? That was totally accidental. Per WOB yhe person that spiked him was being manipulated by Ruin directly, and the Intent was there: Quote Questioner Allomancy requires, you need to be either a Misting or a Mistborn to be able to do that. But Hemalurgy you just need to stab someone through the heart. So what would stop someone on Roshar from using Hemalurgy, because it's not Innate? Do you have to be in proximity to Ruin? Brandon Sanderson Intent is a big part of a lot of the magics, including Hemalurgy, meaning that you need to know what you're doing. Or somebody needs to-- There needs to be Intent involved in what's happening to you. Questioner So like with Spook when he got spiked, where was the Intent? Brandon Sanderson The person who was driving that spike was being influenced by Ruin, and the Intent was there. Questioner So unless you knew what you were trying to do with a Hemalurgic spike, you couldn't do Hemalurgy? Brandon Sanderson You could not steal attributes no. Questioner 2 Is it possible to steal Surgebindings. Brandon Sanderson It is possible to steal Surgebinding. Questioner Is there going to be crossover, like is someone going to have Feruchemical powers and also Surgebinding? Brandon Sanderson That's a Read And Find Out. Holiday signing (Dec. 12, 2015) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helwar Posted February 13, 2019 Report Share Posted February 13, 2019 Figured the answer would be something like that.. I dunno I reread all of Mistborn recently and I remember that scene being pretty chaotic. I guess divine intervention can force chance too... but for Spook to be stabbed through a pewterarm and the tip of the blade just break and get stuck in him... Well. Divine intervention, no need to make sense. As for the actual thread: Can you even make a spike without killing the donor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weltall Posted February 13, 2019 Report Share Posted February 13, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Helwar said: Figured the answer would be something like that.. I dunno I reread all of Mistborn recently and I remember that scene being pretty chaotic. I guess divine intervention can force chance too... but for Spook to be stabbed through a pewterarm and the tip of the blade just break and get stuck in him... Well. Divine intervention, no need to make sense. We actually see an example of this from the spiker's point of view elsewhere in the book and they're waiting for the guidance that they know is coming which will tell them exactly where and when to strike to get the right effect. Someone less open to control can't be directly possessed but Ruin can still provide the Intent and give them the nudge to strike at the right time.. Quote As for the actual thread: Can you even make a spike without killing the donor? It's possible but nobody knows how to do it right now. Also, the donor would be left 'worse than a Drab'. Edited February 13, 2019 by Weltall 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantus Posted February 13, 2019 Report Share Posted February 13, 2019 And to add to what @Weltall said, in tapping the Gold you would be Growing a new piece of Soul, it won't be the original soul. The implication (I think) is that it would potentially have major changes, because gold would get you back to "whole soul" but it wouldnt have a complete Spiritweb template to work from, so the new piece would be different than the old, and may or may not be as functional. Which I think actually opens up some very strange possibilities, like maybe if they took your Misting ability you could become a different kind of Misting. Quote Kurkistan So you've said that healing is like the Spiritual wants to heal and then it filters through the Cognitive, but how's that work with healing wounds to the soul like Hemalurgy or Shardblades? What do you refer to to heal the soul at that point? Brandon Sanderson You need to make a patch on the soul with Investiture. Kurkistan So how's the Investiture know where to go, what to look like? Brandon Sanderson Well your soul is an ideal. So if you can get it up there, there are ways to do-- to recreate that with um... See I'm getting into stuff for later books. Argent No, that's okay. Kurkistan So when Hemalurgy rips something off the soul, is that the ideal soul or some sub-soul? Brandon Sanderson That is off of your soul, and it can be healed; but what it's going to be doing is creating a patch of new soul. So it will not be your original soul. Does that make sense? Kurkistan Okay, that- well, not completely, but I think that's your intention. Brandon Sanderson Yes. Bystander If you do that, is that like Frankenstein's monster, or is it like a graft that's absorb-- Brandon Sanderson Less horrifying- Less horrifying than Frankenstein's monster, but it is a graft that is like-- It is not your original soul. Bystander Yeah, but in modern medicine stuff like that is absorbed- Brandon Sanderson Yeah, in this you will always have a scar on your soul that something else has patched over. Kurkistan So Kaladin shouldn't just keep getting his arm chopped? Brandon Sanderson *ignoring/not-hearing Kurkistan just now* But that is what happens with most forms of investiture in the first place. Firefight Chicago signing (Feb. 20, 2015) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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