Turin Turambar Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 Is it possible to bond shardplate by attaching gems to it, like a shardblade? Would it let you manifest and dismiss it at will? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Invocation Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 (edited) There are already gems on Plate, so probably not. The Plate itself conforms to each person that puts it on, which is probably its equivalent to a Blade's bonding process, only a lot quicker. Worth noting is that Radiant Plate can be summoned and dismissed from what we've seen, so there's some different circumstances somewhere. Might be that Plate isn't dead in the same way Blades are so it doesn't need the syncing of heartbeats to bring it back into the Physical Realm. Edited February 10, 2019 by Invocation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyRioter Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 yeah people already use gemstones to power the Plate, but they haven't been able to bond with the Plate in the same way as with Blades. There's lots of things we do not know about how Plate works. Hopefully we will find out in book 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turin Turambar Posted February 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2019 I suppose you're right - but what makes the difference between the gems inherent in shardplate and shardblade? I think it's possible to replace the gems of shardplate - somebody correct me if I'm wrong - but wouldn't that mean that the radiants didn't need the gems in the first place? My understanding is that it feeds on stormlight to repair itself. Maybe since it always requires stormlight to heal, there never is enough to bond. Sorry if this is a bit rambling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyRioter Posted February 11, 2019 Report Share Posted February 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Turin Turambar said: I suppose you're right - but what makes the difference between the gems inherent in shardplate and shardblade? I think it's possible to replace the gems of shardplate - somebody correct me if I'm wrong - but wouldn't that mean that the radiants didn't need the gems in the first place? My understanding is that it feeds on stormlight to repair itself. Maybe since it always requires stormlight to heal, there never is enough to bond. Sorry if this is a bit rambling. Yeah the gems in Shardplate are interchangable. And Shardblades don't require Stormlight to bond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray to Posted February 11, 2019 Report Share Posted February 11, 2019 Wait so what was the purpose of the gem in the shardblades again? That conversation in the books always confused me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyRioter Posted February 11, 2019 Report Share Posted February 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Gray to said: Wait so what was the purpose of the gem in the shardblades again? That conversation in the books always confused me It apparently facilitates the formation and use of the bond, but the bond is with the deadeye spren itself. If the gem is removed you can't dismiss the Blade, but you don't have to rebond it when the gem is replaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray to Posted February 11, 2019 Report Share Posted February 11, 2019 12 minutes ago, CrazyRioter said: It apparently facilitates the formation and use of the bond, but the bond is with the deadeye spren itself. If the gem is removed you can't dismiss the Blade, but you don't have to rebond it when the gem is replaced. So you always need the gem in the blade right? Does it have to be infused? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyRioter Posted February 11, 2019 Report Share Posted February 11, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Gray to said: So you always need the gem in the blade right? Does it have to be infused? As far as I can tell it does not need to be infused. Edited February 11, 2019 by CrazyRioter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Oltux72 Posted February 13, 2019 Report Share Posted February 13, 2019 On 2/11/2019 at 4:54 AM, Turin Turambar said: I suppose you're right - but what makes the difference between the gems inherent in shardplate and shardblade? I think it's possible to replace the gems of shardplate - somebody correct me if I'm wrong - but wouldn't that mean that the radiants didn't need the gems in the first place? Yes, it would mean that. On 2/11/2019 at 4:54 AM, Turin Turambar said: My understanding is that it feeds on stormlight to repair itself. Maybe since it always requires stormlight to heal, there never is enough to bond. Sorry if this is a bit rambling. It also needs Stormlight to strengthen the wearer. For all we know the gems are simply containers. If you stood outside in a Highstorm, you could presumably use it without gems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantus Posted February 13, 2019 Report Share Posted February 13, 2019 (edited) For what it's worth, there does exist a "Lesser" bond with Shardplate: Quote KiManiak So, for Shardplate, when Kaladin killed the Shardbearer, which we know is Helaran, in Way of Kings, Amaram remarked that Amaram knew the Shardbearer was dead both because the Shardblade didn't disapper and also because the Shardplate began to fall off of him. And so my question is, is there some type of "lesser" bond between Shardplate and its wearer, like is it in sync with the wearer's lifeforce or-- Brandon Sanderson Yes. Firefight San Francisco signing (Jan. 17, 2015) Also, the gems were added later, just like with Blades: Quote Bort (paraphrased) Did Shardplate always have gemstones, or were they added later, after the Recreance? Brandon Sanderson (paraphrased) They were added, but maybe not just after the Recreance. They were added to Shardplate about the same time that the discovery was made that adding a gemstone to a Shardblade would allow it to be bonded. Shadows of Self Newcastle UK signing (Oct. 20, 2015) Edited February 13, 2019 by Quantus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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