Suzanne Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 (edited) Is it possible that Reen and Ruin are the same? Could Ruin have appeared to Vin when she was young and she just mispronounced his name? The names Reen and Ruin are so close to each other and there is never a time in the trilogy where we see Vin actually talking to Reen. It is always Vin remembering things Reen said. It seems like she remembers Reen's voice in the same way that Ruin's voice appears in her mind. Edited January 14, 2019 by Suzanne To narrow down the topic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shqueeves Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 This is incredibly unlikely. Reen and Vin traveled together for the majority of Vin's life before she met Kelsier, and he died at the hands of Inquisitors by refusing to betray Vin. He was also known to Camon's crew, and Ruin was only able to visibly manifest to those who were spiked after being released 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantus Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 Reen was her actual half-brother and a real flesh and blood person, and he withstood quite a bit of torture at the hands of the Inquisitors, but never broke and revealed that Vin was still alive (which would have been unnecessary if he were a literal manifestation of Ruin). Ruin did pretend to be Reen and use his "voice" fairly often in his attempts to manipulate her, though. And we know that Ruin was influencing their mother from early on (who was insane in her own right, letting Ruin in) so that may well have been the reason she chose that name for her son in the first place. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephrun’s Imperium Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 Nah, I don't think so. Reen saved her from her mom, remember? And Vin seems to have pretty clear memories of him. I don't think Ruin would have had enough power to manifest himself for so long anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scion of the Mists Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 It's pretty clear from WoBs and the annotations that Reen did actually exist. However, a large percentage of the time when Vin "remembered" Reen's voice, it was actually Ruin: Quote Questioner [PENDING REVIEW] Reen and Ruin, how much of the personalty that we saw in the books was Ruin, her actual memories, and how much of it was actually Reen? Brandon Sanderson [PENDING REVIEW] Most of what you saw was this kind of weird amalgamation, because it's getting filtered through her memories and things like this. You can see mostly Ruin at that point, but there is some actual Reen in there mixed in. Maybe twenty-eighty. Eh, twenty five-seventy five. source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzanne Posted January 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 (edited) It is an interesting possibility that Vin's mom might have named her son, Reen, because of how much Ruin had been speaking to her in her mind. I was mostly just curious as to why Brandon Sanderson would have picked 2 names so similar for 2 important characters. Edited January 15, 2019 by Suzanne typos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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