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@Ookla the White-Cloaked @Ookla the Rogue will we know if a players vote was affected by the 20% miss chance? Or will we just know 4 people voted for A. But B with 3 votes got eliminated instead?

I feel like there might need to be more than 5 elims. We have 3 guaranteed elims in the form of Aginor, Balthemal, and Padan Fain. If there is 4 that leaves one Agent of the Blight. 5 would only mean 2 Agents. Etc. Agents are the only ones capable of making night kills. Having such a small number of them would mean that if the few of them were elimanted then it would be left to the named evil characters to go it alone without their main elimination ability. Although considering the creature summon ability starting night 3 that would make up for the lass of kill votes. So maybe a smaller number does make sense.

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Hey everyone! I'm checking in! I'll read over the thread, and hopefully the rules again, and hopefully add something by the end of the cycle, but, as I mentioned when I signed up, My activity may be slightly lower until the middle of next week, a couple of days into the game. 

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@Ookla the Ring  the forsaken are also allowed to take the group kill action. My question to the GMs was ambiguous though, so they may also be able to take the group roleblock/summon actions.  Assuming 5 elims, that means 4 can take actions.

I don't think there are many roleless in this game for that reason @Mr Doctor. All of the unique roles have some very powerful actions. Rand can kill any blight creature, Perrin can protect, Lan has the double blight "protect"... etc.  Loial isn't very powerful until we reach the eye, then he gets an ability that could give us up to 2 more turns in the game... so pretty good.  A roleless person just seems really outclassed to me.  It definitely does imply that the unique roles could be in the Doc Groups. As Moiraine is strictly disallowed from being in Moiraines Circle.

Assuming 2 Agents of Blight (5 elims), we have 8 players with unknown roles.  We know we have 4 in Moiraine's Circle. Let's put 3 villagers in there for fun (+1 elim), which leaves 5 roles. It would make sense to put 2 and 3 in the other groups respectively. We then have 2 more elims who could be in a group, so that could make the differance on numbers in the groups.  Assuming no double roles, and no roleless. The game numbers still work out.  I don't know how useful any of this is... probably not much... but I enjoy trying to work out roles.

I disagree whole heartedly that I have done most of the math.  This seems to be a rather math heavy game, and we can tell the maximum game length, reasonable amounts of turns to stay on each Ring... there will likely be more math coming from me.

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   I haven't read the rules yet, but wanted to check in. I'm gonna be a bit busy during this game with college prep and starting a new job next week but I'll do my best to stay active! 

   I'll try and give a character description before the end of the cycle, Fifth. :P I just haven't ever read WoT and had no idea what type of character to do. I'll read everything and try to figure that out later today. 

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6 hours ago, randuir said:

I'd personally recommend based on this to hold the 1st ring as long as feasible, and then let the 2nd and 3rd fall and hold on to the 4th ring as long as possible.

We should be able to defend the 1st ring Day 1, Night 1, and Day 2. I don't anticipate being able to protect the ring Night 2, where the Blight does 11 damage, two sabotage actions could potentially happen, and several village roles will be doing other actions. We should be able to prevent the third ring from falling that night, and the following day the Blight damage drops to X+1=6, which is blockable. The 9 damage Night 3 will likely go through partially, but if we mount a firm defense that night and Day 4 where the Blight does 8 damage, we should be able to preserve the 4th ring until Night 4, the first time its effect is useful since creatures cannot be summoned until Night 3 and creature summons come after creature kills. If we can prevent the 5th ring from falling that night, we're in position to use the benefit of the 5th ring where defense is doubled during the day in exchange for vote negation. A successful defense there means the 5th ring should last until Night 5, which means we can defend the 6th ring Day 6 where votes cannot be negated. We can't stop the Blight at this point, so it will do 12 damage Day 6, then 13 damage Night 6 to likely destroy the 7th ring, and from there 14,15,16 damage. At that rate, the Blight will destroy the eye by the end of Night 8 at the latest, but by then the game should have already ended.  

5 hours ago, Mr Doctor said:

Also, [Ookla the Heretical], why are you wearing my face :lol:? My profile pic coloured purple, yes, but my profile pic nonetheless. It made me pause and chuckle when I saw it for the first time.

You changed your Discord name to Ookla of Heretics after I had already claimed the name Ookla the Heretical, so I decided to steal your profile picture. I can no longer actually find my original profile picture, but I'll stop using your face on December 19th regardless of whether I find my old one.

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I'm exited for this one! It's like the anonymous game I played, the kind I liked. The other two I've participated in weren't much fun at all.

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Wait, so we have a lynch this cycle? Umm... not many have spoken up so far... is it approprate to poke vote someone who has yet to post in-thread in a MR?

Amanuensis I would be interested in hearing your opinions. Consider yourself pokevoted... without the vote for now.

@Amanuensis

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Hi guys. I haven’t had a lot of time to check over the rules due to a combination of finals coming up and the recent purchase of Hollow Knight, which has sucked much of my time away from me. I’ll try to get on at least once or twice a day, but this game is liable to slip my mind. If it looks like I’m going inactive, please feel free to tag me. That being said, I did sign up for this game because I think I can still juggle it between everything else. We’ll see if I’m deluding myself or not :P

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Jeordwyn was nervous, and excited.  Obviously he'd never made a trip into the blight, but how often did a gleeman get a chance to make his own story?  To actually be a part of the adventure instead of just the one telling it?  How great it would be to be at an inn, telling this story one day, someone would ask, "How do you know this to be true"

"I do know this to be true." He'd say.

"I did join the company on that trip." He'd assert. "I did see the Eye of the World"

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Super-complicated set of rules <check>

Great write-up <check>

Excited for this game.

Please, allow me to be the first to poke vote (since no one else has yet)

@Ookla the Phoenix

Xino/Ookla the Phoenix

Hope to see you soon.  (I'm still tunneling on you from the last game!)

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 @Mark IV, @STINK, @Ookla of the East, @Ookla the Cited and @Ookla the Libre , you haven't been poked yet, so consider this your pokage.

If you're just arriving and finding yourself to be incredibly lost, submitting an action to defend the Eye is always good. It stops us from losing that way, and the first ring gives you a 10% chance of not dying if the elims try to kill you.

Second of all, my own vote. I won't be around for much longer this cycle, so I'll be making one with intent to lynch, not to poke. So, let me share some of my thoughts so far. These are fairly weak reads for the most parts, as it'based on one or two posts at most (so not much of a read at all), but it'll make me feel better about trying to lynch whoever I end up on voting.

I've got Ookla the ring as pretty village based on this post:

6 hours ago, Ookla the Ring said:

I feel like there might need to be more than 5 elims. We have 3 guaranteed elims in the form of Aginor, Balthemal, and Padan Fain. If there is 4 that leaves one Agent of the Blight. 5 would only mean 2 Agents. Etc. Agents are the only ones capable of making night kills. Having such a small number of them would mean that if the few of them were elimanted then it would be left to the named evil characters to go it alone without their main elimination ability. Although considering the creature summon ability starting night 3 that would make up for the lass of kill votes. So maybe a smaller number does make sense.

There's one or two people that I think would be able to fake genuine-looking confusion like this, and would know that that is a good idea. Unless Karnatheon is a returning SE veteran though, I'm reading him as village right now.

Furami, mr. doctor and Devotary both started with doing some math regarding the attack on the eye. This is fairly NAI, but it's good to see them invest time and effort, and if that continues their alignment should become clearer as the game progresses, so I don't want to vote on either right now. Mr. Doctor in particular has a track record of being sneaky as an elim, so I'll keep an eye on him.

Snipexe stands out in a negative way right now, the reason for that being that his posts says absolutely nothing, in way too many words.

6 hours ago, Ookla the Skeptical said:

I’m enjoying all of the thoughts that have been posted so far in the game. Just figured I’d quick say, I don’t think I’ll be in service (or have WiFi) from roughly 6:00pm MST to 10:00am.  

One thing I’ve been thinking about a bit: It will be interesting to see the way the potential for accidental vote negation via defending (or sabotage) will effect lynches. Depending on how the dice role, there is potential for the entire lynch to change, assuming many people are defending every day.

He mentions enjoying the thoughts so far, but doesn't actually share why he enjoys them. Does he like the analysis being done? Does he agree, or disagree with what's being said? Just saying you're enjoying something doesn't tell anyone anything. The same goes for his second paragraph, in which he brings up that he's interested in seeing how the vote negation from the defense actions will play out. Though he's not wrong that it might have a big effect on lynches, he just leaves it at this one statement, rather than providing some suggestions for ways to alleviate this problem.

That's enough for me to toss a vote on SnipExe(Ookla the Skeptical) at this early stage. 

Edit: wow, on a reread I'm really not explaining properly why I'm somewhat suspicious of Ookla the Skeptical. Basically, his post feels like he's trying to appear more active and involved than he actually is, which can be an early elim tactic to not appear on the radar of anyone wanting to lynch for inactivity while at the same time not saying anything that could get you in trouble.

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Really, Rath? I wasn't even an elim last game.:P

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<3

Ookla the Phoenix

OK, I'll be on later to get an actual vote in.  6.5 hours until rollover I believe?

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5 hours ago, Furamirionind said:

We know we have 4 in Moiraine's Circle. Let's put 3 villagers in there for fun (+1 elim), which leaves 5 roles. It would make sense to put 2 and 3 in the other groups respectively. We then have 2 more elims who could be in a group, so that could make the differance on numbers in the groups.

With eight players roleless villagers except for any docs they might be in, a presumed three elims who can be part of docs, and four confirmed members of Moraine's circle, the number of roleless should be approximately equal to the number of unique villagers present in group docs if the number of members in Moraine's Circle is representative of the number of players in the other two anonymous docs. @Ookla the White-Cloaked, @Ookla the Rogue, if Padan Fain or an Agent are part of the Fal Dara Warriors doc, could they have an extra life?

Fal Dara Keep. Darktouched. Blightcursed. And the last place Rhodin had seen his first-brother alive. His clan had acted as though Fenduin was fulfilling his toh by choosing to combat the Blight. At twelve years old Rhodin hadn't known any better. No male Aiel channeler had ever returned from the Blight in thousands of years, but Rhodin was sure that his eldest first-brother could defeat the Dark One.  Together, Rhodin and his mother watched an Aes Sedai escort Fenduin into the midst of the Blight. A day later, she returned, but Fenduin never did.

Devotary of Spontaneity

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5 hours ago, Furamirionind said:

@Ookla the Ring  the forsaken are also allowed to take the group kill action. My question to the GMs was ambiguous though, so they may also be able to take the group roleblock/summon actions.  Assuming 5 elims, that means 4 can take actions.

So was this something you asked the Gms over pm or did I miss it? Because in the rules it says this

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Agent of the Blight: A Darkfriend in the northern kingdoms assigned to help the Forsaken complete their takeover of the Eye. Each Agent has access to the following actions and abilities:

Common Loyalty: All Agents have access to the Night group kill, as well as the group roleblock and group Creature summon while the respective Forsaken are still alive.

Concealed: Each Agent may be a part of another doc (Fal Dara Warrior, Moiraine’s Circle, Emond’s Field).

Sabotage: Reduces the defence of the The Light against the Eye of the World by one, and may be performed on a Day or Night phase. If done during the Day, this has a 20% chance of negating the user’s vote.

But it doesn't say anything about the Forsaken having a night group kill. And since the Forsaken are a different team of Elims than the Agents I would interpret this as the Forsaken not having the kill option. I could of course be wrong, especially since you seem sure. If you asked this in thread and I missed it I apologize. Just tagging GMs for clarification here @Ookla the White-Cloaked @Ookla the Rogue

 

57 minutes ago, randuir said:

I've got Ookla the ring as pretty village based on this post:

There's one or two people that I think would be able to fake genuine-looking confusion like this, and would know that that is a good idea. Unless Karnatheon is a returning SE veteran though, I'm reading him as village right now.

I appreciate that. I have never played SE before, though I've played irl Werewolf and Mafia, so I know the style of game just not the specifics. I will echo your statement that if you don't have a role with a different worthwhile action to spend, please make sure you PM the GMs that you want to defend.

Onto the lynch. I agree with the statements made about Snipexe, and echo those same statements to @Ookla the Dragon Reborn I know you are very active on the shard and so far the only statement you've made is that you will enjoy the game. I interpret this as either you choosing not to dedicate time to this at the moment, or you are being active and that activity is being spent in the elim and/or other docs. My current suspicion is on you, solely because I have seen your behavior in Alleyverse and feel the most confident in my current read on you here. I would love to see you respond to this, and possibly answer my concerns. We still have a bit over 6 hours left in the cycle, which gives you plenty of time to respond, and also give us some insight on who you are suspicious of.

@Rathmaskal you also popped in just to poke vote someone but didn't provide any commentary. Obviously not everyone has something to say, or something worth saying, but something more than that would be nice.

Also, as a general statement, the potential vote negation in this Ring is as stated going to affect the Lynch. Due to that, I don't know if it would maybe be a good idea for us to as a group try to have bigger numbers of votes on people we want to vote for, in order to ensure that lynches actually happen and we aren't stuck on ties. Of course, that promotes people just hopping on bandwagons too, which could be bad for discussion. So idk.

 

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19 minutes ago, Ookla the Ring said:

But it doesn't say anything about the Forsaken having a night group kill. And since the Forsaken are a different team of Elims than the Agents I would interpret this as the Forsaken not having the kill option. I could of course be wrong, especially since you seem sure. If you asked this in thread and I missed it I apologize. Just tagging GMs for clarification here

Any Evil player may submit group actions for their faction. This is not explicitly in the rules, but the faction actions are listed as Evil abilities, not Agent abilities. 

19 minutes ago, Ookla the Heretical said:

if Padan Fain or an Agent are part of the Fal Dara Warriors doc, could they have an extra life?

They could. Rand or Aginor could have double extra lives as well, should they be Hardy Fal Dara Warriors. 

Edit: Also, please do not forget that the cycle will end in 5 hours. Additionally, be aware that any rules clarifications I give will be posted in-thread the following cycle, if I have time. So ask wisely. :P 

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Ok, I've skimmed the rules... so now I sort of know what's going on. But there's also only 5 hours left of this turn, and I have absolutely no idea who to vote for. Nobody has really said enough to even create a baseless suspicion on. I feel I should vote in order to generate information, but honestly right now it would be an entirely random vote that would likely be based on someones profile picture or something equally stupid. So I'm going to abstain for now, but I'll keep an eye on the thread while I go get some work/studying done. 

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So I reread the rules, and my head hurts already. We’ve barely even started. Is that a good sign or a bad sign? Perhaps both.

I agree with Steel in that no one has really done much that is strongly alignment indicative, but I’d encourage them to vote regardless, even if it is based on something as silly as a profile picture. We need information at this stage of the game.

I’ve got a slight elim read on Bard as their only post isn’t even 20 words long and doesn’t provide much in the way of actual statement or analysis, and seems to be just RP. They’re checking in without offering substance, even more so than simply voting or saying that they don’t know what’s going on. Bard.

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Since no one has really added an discussion since my last post. RP time! Also before I forget, I know someone else said it already but whoever Rand is, it's probably worth using your action to take out the Creeper this turn, as we don't have a whole ton of information to go off of as far as who to vote for or anything else.

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Brendan walked up to the Eastern Gate of Fal Dara. He had spent the previous night at the home of a farmer outside the city, as he had arrived too late in the night to gain entry through the gates. While rightly suspicious of a man wandering around in such a dangerous place so late at night, he had consented to allow Brendan to sleep in his barn. I've had worse nights. At least it was warm next to the pigs. Hopefully the guards would recognize him as a Gleeman, and let him enter the city. They tended to be wary of anyone they didn't know, but many soldiers enjoyed the entertainment his kind provided.

Approaching the gate, a guard called out. "Ho there! What is your business here stranger?" Brendan noticed a couple of the guards readying crossbows, but the one speaking seemed inclined to be at least somewhat welcoming. "My name is Brendan Vallerune. I am a master of the arts of entertainment! And all around man of mystery." was the reply. The guard looked closer. "We don't need much for mystery here. We like what we know. But it has been a while since we've had any fun. Gleemen are always welcome, provided you can prove yourself. If you can get any of us to smile we'll let you in."

Brendan looked the men over. All had stern expressions. Making any of them break would be a challenge. Time to warm up. Brendan pulled out some colorful balls, and began juggling. The man watched this with about as much enthusiasm as a horse feeling the bridle being strapped on. Knowing he needed to step it up, Brendan tossed two of the balls to the ground, then added a couple knives to the mix. He managed to easily juggle the assortment of both harmless and dangerous objects. The guards seemed to be paying more attention, but not even a hint of mirth appeared. He began reciting jokes as he juggled. "What do you get when you cross an Aes Sedai with a chicken? A lesson in why you never cross an Aes Sedia, and a chicken dinner! Why did the Ogier cross the road? To get to his Stedding on the other side! Why are Trollocs so ugly? Because my father's side of the family decided to procreate!" He continued in this manner, and eventually he could see some of the guards beginning to enjoy themselves. Time for the grand finale. Throwing everything he was juggling into the air, he tossed a burst of smoke at the ground and vanished. The guards immediately grew concerned, thinking hew may have been a distraction. But they didn't see anyone else still. As the smoke cleared it revealed a very impolite phrase written by the objects that had landed on the ground, and Brendan stepped out from behind a nearby bush and bowed. Seeing this made the guards chuckle, and as per their arrangement, they consented to let Brendan into the city. He picked up his things, then headed inside.

What would he find within, and what secrets did this city hold for him?

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I'm just popping in here to say quickly I'm probably not gonna be active for this cycle/possibly next one as my laptop broke so need to figure out repairs for it and all that jazz.

Sorry lads

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2 hours ago, Ookla the White-Cloaked said:

They could. Rand or Aginor could have double extra lives as well, should they be Hardy Fal Dara Warriors. 

Does this mean the two Forsaken also have the Concealment passive, allowing them to be in the anonymous docs? That would make it almost certain that there's at least one elim in each doc, and reduce the necessity to have unique villagers in the anonymous docs.

1 hour ago, Ookla the Cited said:

I’ve got a slight elim read on Bard as their only post isn’t even 20 words long and doesn’t provide much in the way of actual statement or analysis, and seems to be just RP.

Bard did claim before the game started that he planned to make the entirety of all his posts in character. While short, his post is in keeping with this prior claim.

We have an exciting two votes so far with less than two hours left in the cycle. Aginor can negate votes, which would put us down to one vote and possibly none if the other voter had their vote negated by defense or sabotage. It may be worthwhile for Moiraine to do what Aes Sedai do best, and murder one of our number with her vote manipulation power. At this point, everyone has either posted or been mentioned, and it's too late in the cycle for a poke vote. It's likely that I won't vote this cycle and let Moiraine make a decision unless something comes up.

Devotary of Spontaneity

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4 hours ago, randuir said:

If you're just arriving and finding yourself to be incredibly lost, submitting an action to defend the Eye is always good. It stops us from losing that way, and the first ring gives you a 10% chance of not dying if the elims try to kill you.

Literally me :lol:

So much, so complicated. My brain isn't used to SEing for a while xD

So, I just read/scanned the rules and I didn't realize it was day and night cycles until recently oops. I've never read WoT so if I rp at all, I'll be a crazy old woman named Fifi. No magic, just crazy. xD @Ookla the White-Cloaked

Okay....so, taking actions this cycle to protect the Eye right? I'll be honest that I scanned the thread as well so I have no idea for a lynch. Randuir, Mr Doctor, Fura, and Devotary are all really helpful so far....or they are pulling a Len on me and just seeming helpful. xD Either way, it helps me with reads when people post analysis so it's still good regardless of what they said.

Okay I read @randuir vote on Snipexe but I don't really agree on it. Although that is a generally used elim tactic, I don't really know if that would be what he was doing in that post. I think it's important that he called everyone's attention to the potential for lynch problems which shows that we should make sure to secure lynches by more votes on one person to avoid changing lynches. I kinda feel like it was a good thing to point out in case some people (like me) didn't read the rules as closely for the first cycle.

But meh, it's a day one lynch so I won't say that I haven't seen people lynched for less. Also, is there a lynch every EVERY cycle or just day cycles? The rules say every cycle.

I want to vote but I don't understand the rules enough to even know if people's analysis is sound or not. My best SE skill usually involves studying the people and not the rules. That's hard for me. I need more time. >> *sigh

I want to read through again before I try and vote.

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1 minute ago, Ookla the Heretical said:

Does this mean the two Forsaken also have the Concealment passive, allowing them to be in the anonymous docs? That would make it almost certain that there's at least one elim in each doc, and reduce the necessity to have unique villagers in the anonymous docs.

Yes, the concealment ability applies to all Evil-aligned players. I’m not entirely sure why it’s not listed in the Forsaken abilities, but I may have just been going off the assumption (in my head) that most of the Agent stuff applied to the Forsaken. To be clear, however, the Sabotage action is not available to the Forsaken, but Concealment is. That is my error, and will be corrected in the rules. 

Also, just noticed this ping: 

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Will we know if a players vote was affected by the 20% miss chance? Or will we just know 4 people voted for A. But B with 3 votes got eliminated instead?

The final vote tally will show negated votes like this:

Before=Joe (4): Wilson, Orlok, Maill, Elbereth

After=Joe (3): Wilson, Orlok, Maill, Elbereth

Votes modified as a result of Aes Sedai Persuasion will appear as the actual name of the player whose vote was redirected.

So, all in all, vote manipulation is afforded a good deal of concealment here. 

@BrightnessRadiant Noted. :) 

9 minutes ago, BrightnessRadiant said:

Also, is there a lynch every EVERY cycle or just day cycles? The rules say every cycle.

Cycles=48 hours, split into Day/Night turns. There is a lynch every cycle, on the Day turns. I’ve tried to be consistent with wording but knowing me I’ve probably slipped somewhere, so if you find an inconsistency please tell me. >>

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Don't ask how the wagon got this far into the Blight. That's the wrong question. You should be asking what happened to the mules.

(Checking in. Will be doing a thorough reading of the rules to actually understand all of the actions.)

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Okay, I’ve spent some time spreadsheeting and I’m ready to start reading too much into people’s actions.

 

I’ll give my thoughts on everyone who’s posted so far.

Steeldancer/Ookla the Positive – Has stated that he’s not going to be active and has no idea who to vote for. Fair enough, I’m not sure either.

randuir – Good activity as usual from our Not-Dragon-Reborn. Believes that there are less Elims than what Furami and I have theorised, which only stands out to me because in my (very few) Elim games I like to make the Village underestimate the number of Elims. So far he’s been helpful, but he’s like that even when he’s evil. For now I’ll give randuir a free pass because he’s hard to read and always helpful.

Karnatheon/Ookla the Ring – Has got very good activity for their first game of SE. They’ve been thinking about how to identify players (specifically Lan), which is notable, and analysing the rules. Good to see activity in a new player, but it’s been a sign of an Elim in the past. However, having them ask questions like that in the thread means that they may not have a doc to talk in where they trust everyone (i.e. Elim doc). That’s not much to go on, but I trust Karnatheon for now.

CadCom – Admitted low activity for the first few days. Nothing much to read here.

DroughtBringer – Not much to see here. First player to post, but nothing else to read.

Xino/Ookla the Phoenix – Checked in with a single sentence. I’m curious as to why MetaTerminal would go after Bard instead of Xino since their input is about the same so far. Also, I can't believe I didn't realise that your name was very close to being "phoenix" backwards.

Rathmaskal – Hasn’t said much about the game, but it’s a relatively standard check in. I agree with Karnatheon that some comments on the game would be nice, but I expect that of everyone. Poked Xino, but this seems to be more of a joke than anything else.

Devotary of Spontaneity/Ookla the Heretical – The face-stealer herself. Has done some good maths on the Rings, but I didn’t really understand the discussion about counting the number of players in the docs. @Ookla the Heretical what did you mean in this post about the numbers of Villagers? Nothing overly suspicious to read here.

Young Bard – One small RP post to check in. I would like to hear something before the end of the Cycle.

Snipexe/Ookla the Skeptical – Checking in, interested in vote negation and how that makes the lynches less deterministic. Interesting point, but nothing else to read for me.

Furamirionind – One day I’ll spell your name right on the first try. Very good detailed post about the mathematics of the rules, and thanks for keeping that up. I think some analysis of the people will still be good to help determine your alignment, however.

Hemalurgic Headshot Checked in just before I posted. Nothing much to read, other than the NAI late appearance.

STINK – Broken computers suck. Not much to read here.

MetaTerminal/Ookla the Cited – I wasn’t sure how much I like the vote on Bard, but it does make some sense. However, Xino did pretty much the same and only when poked, so I’ll be interested as to why Meta chose Bard over Xino.

BrightnessRadiant – Is going to be busy with life stuff during the game and prefers reading people to rules. This is reasonable, I think, and given the complicated rules some player analysis will be welcome. Nothing suspicious here yet.

We still have four people left to check in. So far I don't really suspect anyone, but I have some things to watch for in the future that may yield more results.

 

@BrightnessRadiant I think that Snipexe’s post was interesting because it showed that he’s thinking about how the lynch can be a bit non-deterministic. The solution to that is piling votes on people, which is probably better for the Elims than the Village because it makes it harder to distinguish between an Elim securing a kill and a Villager trying to prevent randomness from losing them the lynch. A strategy I’ve seen to identify Elims is seeing how early or late they vote on someone, but this may defeat that. I wonder if Snipexe thought of that, which may be why he made the post.

 

5 hours ago, randuir said:

Furami, mr. doctor and Devotary both started with doing some math regarding the attack on the eye. This is fairly NAI, but it's good to see them invest time and effort, and if that continues their alignment should become clearer as the game progresses, so I don't want to vote on either right now. Mr. Doctor in particular has a track record of being sneaky as an elim, so I'll keep an eye on him.

Who, me? I’ve never done anything unscrupulous in my life! Just ask @Ookla the Rogue.

 

Votes:

Young Bard/Ookla the Unprepared (1) - MetaTerminal/Ookla the Cited

Snipexe/Ookla the Skeptical (1) - randuir

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6 minutes ago, Mr Doctor said:

what did you mean in [this] post about the numbers of Villagers?

Your work and Fura's had indicated that there were most likely eight villagers with no roles other than potentially being in docs. We know there are four members of Moiraine's circle, so if the number of members of the other two docs are roughly the same(four and four), the presence of roleless would require an equivalent number of unique villagers to be part of the anonymous docs. Knowing that the entire elim team has a possibility to be in an anonymous doc makes it less likely that a given unique villager will be part of a doc, while increasing the likely number of roleless villagers.

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