Ookla the Mountain of the Gods

[Voidus]

Barring the first one (Possibly, even then I'm not sure what exactly you would have in mind for the character), those are just personality quirks not a non-intervention policy, that doesn't really set me at ease in any way.

[xinoehp512]

"I don't see why becoming an Avatar is not reward enough for Hellbent." I stood up, letting the chair behind me vanish. "I will say that I will protect my characters- and their plot arcs- with all the power that I can rightfully use."

[Vargo Seldon]

8 hours ago, Badadah said:

"Also, @Kaladin78, what would you like to change it to?

"No, it might be interesting to keep it."

4 hours ago, kenod said:

With a little grin I looked up. "Natural laws? That doesn't mean much where we currently are, though I get what you're saying."  I then continued in a more serious tone. "I'm also not sure about the idea of us actively interfering in the world. Our current methods work just fine, and any active interference could cause conflict between the avatars themselves, which could be catastrophic. I'm also not sure if a protector would be such a good thing. Why would we want one? Conflict is what makes the world evolve. All of us enjoy it. Some enjoy causing it, and some enjoy solving it, but the main point is that this causes change. If we have a protector, this conflict is gone. What does it matter if the bad guy wins, or if things get destroyed. We will still exist, and so everything will keep going, and stay interesting." I paused. "So, I vote that Hellbent will not receive our blessings, and that the same will apply to all who follow him here. While I will allow Hellbent to keep his spoils, as a reward for being the first to reach us, I also propose that we ensure he will not remember exactly who reside at the top of this mountain, only that we rejected him. I also propose that any who reach us after this will be treated the same, and that they will not keep their spoils, to prevent dangerous influences in this world."

Remembering that others had brought their own people here, I spoke again: "Also, for any of those who have brought their charges to this mountain, I'd suggest not leaving them fully aware of their true nature. This might cause... disturbances for their personality. Perhaps make them believe that certain beings have influenced them, but don't make them aware of the fourth wall, or to which extent we control them."

Having finished, I sat back down again.

"I concur.  It would be cool to have one super powerful villain that everyone in the alleyverse has to get together to defeat.  I mean, we already have a ton of villains, but one that threatens the very fabric of the shard would be a threat even to the most evil villains.  And the heros of the alleyverse will have a field day with this one.  Isn't that the point of things like this?  To keep the alleyverse moving and stop it from stagnating?  I say let him become a powerful being of evil!  Many characters would love to have an opportunity like this.  Namely mine, and I'm sure many others.  If we are worried about the power getting out of hand and break the game, then think about it this way: There are some amazingly powerful evil characters out there like Solace and, well, Hellbent.  There are also some amazingly powerful good characters out there, like mine and others.  There are characters from every point on the scale of power, from not super powerful to amazingly powerful.  Taking things to a higher plane of power won't change that.  Nothing will.  Let this happen!"  Finished with his short inspirational speech, Kaladin walked off and took a long drink of water.  He'd not been talking super long, but he'd been shouting rather loud.

[xinoehp512]

"The problem with that sort of challenge is that is isn't a challenge. With the ability to create ideas, we can do whatever can be imagined."

I sat down again. "And the 17th shard website could not be threatened by our actions directly because we are just ideas. Only ideas can pass through the barrier that separates the worlds."

Suddenly, a bright light flashed. Rekaerb stumbled into the room, his eyes wide. I smiled to myself. He found the hole, then.

[Voidus]

Voidus was distracted wondering if he should make time wibbly wobbly and timey wimey or a Jeremy Bearimy.

[whattheHoid]

Freyja thought that yes time was just a big ball of wobbly wobbly and times windy. It always has been and always should and would be.

[xinoehp512]

I looked over. "A lot of problems with time can be solved if you think of it in a multidimensional fashion." I waved my hand. "But we already have enough problems with time, what with edits and retcons. If you want time travel, I've made a NOW clock that makes things a bit more stable."

[Voidus]

Well both of those are multidimensional, but they come at the problem from different directions, that's why I'm torn.
Ultimately the Jeremy Bearimy approach is ultimately a loop so that does have limitations, but then there are sub loops inside of it as well, and an isolated pocket.

Hmmmmm.

[+Ark1002]

I'm excited to watch Hellbent's evil flourish! I really didn't think I would get to, but I'm excited!"

[xinoehp512]

"The NOW clock is probably the most understandable. Do you want me to explain?"

[old man moomba]

"Define NOW"  I turn around, "on second thought, send me a memo. I have Character deveolpment to work on and God Weapons to create. Plus I have to get to work on the weapons expo" I snap my fingers and dissappear

[+Ark1002]

I smile, whispering, not caring they can read what I type. "Hellbent will be attending that expo... He'll be more then attending."

[xinoehp512]

I looked at Badadah. "Aren't we supposed to be using first person past tense? Also, what should I call you? I'm a bit confused by the difference between Ark, Hellbent, and Badadah at this point."

[MacThorstenson]

 

Hey ark, Mac has been hired as security, and I’m thinking he needs a few upgrades, so watch out. 

Edited November 23, 2018 by MacThorstenson

[I think I am here.]

“But what is NOW? Is now pir current perception of time? But if our perception of time lasts muliple nanoseconds at least does that mean that strength of nanoseconds equals now? No, most likely that it is one nanosecond, the nanosecond we are in. But a nanosecond is made of smaller parts, so do all of those correspond to now? No, only the current one does. And you can continue splitting time to infinity, if everything is a group of time nothing can be now. So at what point does now happen? And at what point does it become arbitrary?

[Voidus]

Well the planck time is the smallest meaningful length of time I guess.

[I think I am here.]

But what about 0.5 of a planck? 0.1? What about 0.02 of a Planck? I guess we could continue that into infinity if we wanted to.

[kenod]

From the way I understand it (which probably isn't that good), all the different planck units are at the point where if you try to go any smaller (or larger, in the case of planck temperature and frequency) you need a working theory of quantum gravity to describe what is happening, meaning that we currently can't understand what happens at these points, which is why these are generally regarded as the minimum (or again, maximum) values. This means that you can have units of time smaller than planck time, but we just don't know what's happening anymore.

On a side note, the smallest measurement of time that we've managed (8.50 × 10⁻¹⁹ seconds) is 25 orders of magnitude larger than the planck time (5.39 × 10 ⁻⁴⁴ seconds). Also, the actual definition of planck time is the amount of time it takes light to travel a single planck length.

Edited November 23, 2018 by kenod

[Karnatheon]

"I would like to formally state, both my Author and I are firmly against this whole vote. @Badadah you still haven't addressed the concerns that I pointed out previously, and in my opinion haven't satisfactorily addressed the concerns that Voidus pointed out."

[Voidus]

You can have an ammount of time shorter than a planck time but nothing there will meaningfully impact reality beyond that scale so it's functionally a minimum unit of time.

[I think I am here.]

Ah, I think I get it now.

"Also," Itiah addressed Karnatheon. "I am my author. I think. Or my author is me. But what is me, or rather, the idea of my identity..." He began to ramble into infinity

[Voidus]

"Oh dear." I said. "Here we go again."

I started wondering how I should proceed with my characters again, Voidus needed to remain out of the way so that the story can continue, but there were now multiple ways he could escape so I felt like that was starting to stretch disbelief. For now I could wait and see if anyone actually enabled any of those plans, but I'd need to have something prepared for afterwards. I did have one plan, something I'd been sowing the seeds for for a while, but I still wasn't sure how the execution would pay off.

"Well I guess we'll see."

[xinoehp512]

I snorted. "Nothing so complicated. NOW is whatever the time is in-thread. It's specially built for this sort of RP.

"While we're talking about time and stuff, I'd like to point out that beyond the Worldspike, time has passed differently since the seven day war. The Alleystorm arrives hundreds of years before, in some cases."

[Voidus]

"Working with time as a mutable construct is easier than trying to coordinate a bunch of different Alleyverse timezones I'd think. Otherwise some slow moving but story-critical threads end up holding everything else up and time can't progress. But what do you mean by 'beyond' the Worldspike?"

[xinoehp512]

"Anywhere not on the current map, mostly."