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Hmmm... I'm really sorry for not getting on earlier in the cycle - I was keeping tabs, hoping the Tineye would claim, but it really seems like that's not going to happen. Given that, I think that the Tineye message is probably an Eliminator - I don't feel at all confident on that, but unfortunately I feel like we're approaching the endgame now and I don't have any information to go off of, which is really annoying. And so I'm more inclined to view Rath as a villager than I was last cycle.

There's still enough room for the Eliminators to do a last minute bandwagon on someone at the last minute, so I think I'll vote Gancho to try and make sure that doesn't happen. I need to put down a Praise vote, and between Orlok and Araris, I trust Orlok ever so slightly more right now, I think (also, if I vote for Araris, I think that would result in a tie, which is probably not a good idea this late in the game.)

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@Callsign: Leviathan, that's a fair question.  I'll note the highlights as to why I see this as a reasonable lynch:

  • The tunnel on Ark is harder than mine on Xino...and seems for far less reason.
  • Voting on Ark at the end of a cycle when Meta is the leading vote-getting I find odd...but at this point it's tough to tell how much vote manipulation the elim team has since I don't believe a single vote has been rioted...and the only soothing has been to votes on me.
  • The half-hearted post after Ark was lynched really read the wrong way to me (and is probably the biggest reason I'm supporting this lynch other than the fact that me voting, for now, provides a more likely lynch, which we definitely need)
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Its getting pretty late in the cycle, so I am going to make this quick.

Hmm, looking back at the thread, I think both Xino and Goncho look suspicious, though I didnt have time to document any of that... So I guess I will just vote on Gancho to prevent vote manipulation.

Gancho/Callsign: Leviathan / Araris

Araris, because he has not been going after me for using the word spiked.

I also just realized why Orlok thought using the word spiked was suspicious, but I am pretty sure if there was a seeker, then they would see the word spiked or noble, not village or elim. Like Araris said.

Ninja'd Rathmaskal.

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Huh. so, basically, everyone's voting on me... because I was halfhearted about one of our villagers dying? There really wasn't any other way that would make sense to word that. I mean, what did you guys want? I wasn't gonna go and say, "Yay! I'm so happy that the elims, myself included, were able to kill another villager! This event excites me extremely!"

And I wasn't gonna do the opposite; that is, act as though it was the saddest thing in the world. That would, first of all, give off SERIOUS 'elim trying to act sad' vibes, and second, what right do I have to act sad... when I was the guy pushing for Ark's lynch the entire game?

I mean, Rath, are you sure it isn't because I voted you in that last cycle? :)

Edit: Ninja'd.

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Evening Edition 6

 

The Elendel Daily

Newsworthy Content for Every Octant!

The 28th of Doxil, 68, Evening

Price 2 Clips

 

Council Condemns Governor's Reaction to 'Vigilante' Killing

Early this afternoon, a body was 'handed in' to the Constabulary offices in the 3rd Octant. The body was previously owned by one George Mackleberry, and in what is becoming a recurring theme, he was one of the now-dwindling number of people hoping to inherit House Heron's fortunes. 

In a shocking twist though, also handed in with the body was a long sliver of metal. Allomantic tests have determined that the metal was invested, and forensics have shown that the spike was previously embedded inside Mr Mackleberry's body. All this has led the Constabulary to conclude that he was one of the murderers plaguing Elendel. Unfortunately, they have also stated that they do not believe this to be the last of them; indeed, they say that the only thing that they can say about the number of Spiked individuals working with Mr Mackleberry and his presumed associated Kalfaix is that there aren't that many of them. Small saving grace that is though, as this small number of individuals, whose numbers are less than a dozen, has caused havoc and spread fear throughout the city.

As in the previous case, the Constabulary condemned the use of 'vigilante justice' to enact vengeance against Mr Mackleberry, and have pleaded that no-one else takes the law into their own hands, but instead provides any and all information to the Constabulary.

Contrary to this though, the Governor publicly applauded and praised the killer, stating that he was quite disappointed with how the Constabulary were handling the case, and that they had been less than useful. He also added that any private individuals who wish to help prevent these murderers from killing anyone else are more than welcome to do 'what they feel is necessary'. At this, Councillors staged another walk-out, and Councillor Jernaq has told The Elendel Daily that he will seek approval from the Noble Houses to trigger an election of a new governor. Councillor says that Governor Wilson is 'no longer fit to hold office', but denies claims that he wants to be Governor himself, stating 'anyone would be better than [Governor Wilson] right now.'

Garrik Urbain

 

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Obituary

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I didn't do it.

 

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Other Headlines This Evening 

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Imperial News – Spiked Found Dead, Note Claims 'I didn't do it' (But He Did)

The Daily Council - Murderer Found, Governor Publicly Praises 'Vigilante'

The Hezakiller – 'What is Becoming of Our Fair City?' Asks Councillor Jernaq

The Financial Broadsheet – Heron Shares Up On News of Spiked Passing

The Copper Star – Lord Dibbleworth XIII Looks Familiar, Doesn't He?

 

 

Night 6 has begun! It will end at 7PM GMT 21st November.

There's a Tineye alive still, so PMs may be sent.

George RD Mackleberry/Gancho Libre was a Spiked Smoker!

Locke Tekiel/Orlok Tsubodai is Influential the following Day.

 

Assassinate Votes

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George RD Mackleberry/Gancho Libre (6): Ookla the Curmudgeonly/Araris Valerian, Locke Tekiel/Orlok Tsubodai, Lord Flamingo/Rathmaskal, Jendred/Young Bard, Furamirionid Yuln'Broael/Furamirionid

 

Praise Votes

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Locke Tekiel/Orlok Tsubodai (4): Ookla the Curmudgeonly/Araris Valerian, Lord Flamingo/Rathmaskal, Jendred/Young Bard

Ookla the Curmudgeonly/Araris Valerian (2): Locke Tekiel/Orlok Tsubodai, Furamirionid Yuln'Broael/Furamirionid

 

Total Influence

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Ookla the Curmudgeonly/Araris Valerian: 12

Locke Tekiel/Orlok Tsubodai: 10

Quintus/Jondesu: 6

Jendred/Young Bard: 4

Sabine Seidel/A Joe in the Bush: 2

Burrsir/Coop772: 1

Tomir Izenry/Aonar Faileas: 1

 

 

Player List

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  1. xinoehp512 - Eviterces, a person of unknown quality. Why would they hide themselves like this?
  2. I think I am here. - Itiah XII. What happened to the other eleven? Rioter
  3. Fifth Scholar - Count Olaf, an old vassal that once was under the influence of Ruin. Ruin is gone, but what's to stop him falling under evil influence again? Noble
  4. Jondesu - Quintus, an old hat at situations like this. Makes you wonder how he lived through them to tell the tale...
  5. Elandera - Avi, a person who has no idea what an Ookla Season is. Is that the truth, or are they perhaps lying? Thug
  6. Araris Valerian - Ookla the Curmudgeonly, an old man with a stern face. Perhaps evil is concealed within that stony visage.
  7. Cadmium Compounder - Miumounder, also known as CadCom. Why would someone need two names? Soother
  8. Young Bard - Jendred, eighth son, and thus unimportant. You can probably ignore him.
  9. Gancho Libre - George R.D. Mackleberry. Never trust a man with two middle initials. Smoker
  10. Orlok Tsubodai - Locke Tekiel, named for a ruler of Fadrex City, beloved by all. This character is different in two regards.
  11. Steeldancer - Ookla of Squids. (This is getting out of hand, now there are two of them) Lurcher
  12. Rathmaskal - Lord Flamingo, flamboyant and fond of hopping.
  13. Snipexe - Snip Exeutor, has stopped working. Noble
  14. Coop772 - Burrsir, too cool for school.
  15. Shqueeves - Ookla That Watches, definitely a Tineye.
  16. Furamirionid - Furamirionid Yuln'Broael, Fura to his friends (if he has any).
  17. Aonar Faileas - Tomir Izenry, only here for the money.
  18. A Joe in the Bush - Sabine Seidel, of questionable sanity.
  19. Ark1002 - Aniah Arkwood, from the roughs. Sticks out like a sore thumb in these fancy settings. Noble
  20. Nohadon - Severance Greed, greedy by name, greedy by repeated examples of taking more than his fair share throughout his life.
  21. MetaTerminal - The Immortal Kalfaix, a travelling magician. You can't trust these out-of-towners... Spiked
  22. Devotary of Spontaneity - Tessona, a Sliverist, but assuredly maybe probably not one of the bad guys. Noble

 

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@Callsign: Leviathan - since you'll at least get the opportunity to read this, it wasn't the half-heartedness of your comment, it was the way it read in general.  Kind of like a lizard-man trying to human...  Additionally, I try to make sure I never vote on someone because they voted on me...but I will sometimes vote on someone for a sketchy reason they use to vote on me.

Anyway, moving forward.  I'm know at this point it's tunneling a bit, since no one else has really picked up on it (except Young Bard), but Xino still seems rather suspicious...  The last few cycles, though, Young Bard also is getting more and more suspicious.  This last cycle, the late bandwagon vote could be NAI, but definitely doesn't alleviate my suspicions.

@Wyrmhero, are we still on a two-day cycle?  (Trying to figure out if/when I'll have time to do the analysis I want to during this cycle.)

Also, @Coop772, assuming you're a thug, make sure to burn pewter tonight!

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Wyrm, I really appreciate the writeups you have done this game. They make the game much more enjoyable to stay on top of.

I'm not too sure who to lynch next, but maybe Bard? His pattern of activity would fit with an elim Tineye that has only been active some cycles, and he was on my list last cycle as well. Guess I should wait and see what happens in the night.

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20 minutes ago, Araris Valerian said:

Wyrm, I really appreciate the writeups you have done this game. They make the game much more enjoyable to stay on top of.

+1 from me.

I am on mobile, so this post is really just going to be some general thoughts.

Xino - I don't know exactly what to think.  He only posted 4 times I think?

  Post 1) says doesnt have time, 2) doesn't have time, 3) says he is suspicious of Orlok (who had just posted "Condemnation of Meta™"), and doesnt have time, 3) joined bandwagon on Meta and said he didnt have time.

I dont think any of this strange for someone who doesnt have time.  The only thing I do find is strange about Xino, is that in every turn which I have been active, he has been following the thread, usually pretty soon after rollover.  This implies to me that they may be reading the thread more than they are implying, however, I dont know if I would want to lynch someone over that alone.  I would have to think more on that. 

I don't have time to look at Bard's posts.  But from what I remember, his first one back had lots of false information, and the second sounded a bit strange to me. (Though the first post I think probably is excusable)

I would promt bard, but as I havent reread his post, I dont know what to promt him about... I will do that in a couple hours.

 

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In case I die tonight, I'd very much like to see Jondesu lynched tomorrow. If we have any living lurchers left, they really should protect Nohadon.

 

@xinoehp512, @Araris Valerian, @Rathmaskal, @Coop772, @Shqueeves, @Aonar Faileas, @A Joe in the Bush, @Nohadon

Could our seeker, should they exist, please scan Bard tonight? I'm pretty firm in my belief that Jondesu and Furamironind are both evil, with Fura being an eliminator thug. That said, I'm pretty confident that they have both a soother and a tineye, so there has to be one other eliminator. At present, Bard is my best guess. I'd also suggest they come clean with the list of all their scans tomorrow - being able to clear villagers will make the end game much easier.

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9 hours ago, Rathmaskal said:

 

@Wyrmhero, are we still on a two-day cycle?  (Trying to figure out if/when I'll have time to do the analysis I want to during this cycle.)

No, Days are 48 hours, Nights are 24. As of now, there are still 9 and a half hours left this Night.

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11 hours ago, Orlok Tsubodai said:

 

In case I die tonight, I'd very much like to see Jondesu lynched tomorrow. If we have any living lurchers left, they really should protect Nohadon.

 

Um, why me?  Are you still going on about the use of the word "Spiked"?  Cause I do that.  I use the GM's terms often for things like the Elim team or kills or whatever other mechanisms are around.

Also, the whole "protect this person" just becomes a big IKYK situation, as you're well aware, and that's rarely actually helpful.  I'm finding you more and more suspicious (as I probably always should, though you don't automatically set off my warning bells like some other players do), despite helping lynch (or was that bussing?) a Spiked player.  This isn't even just a retaliation vote, which I try to avoid on principle as it doesn't actually help anyone, but you're making me very nervous about your plans, and you obviously have a large PM network going as well, which would be of great use to you if you're helping to drive mislynches and bad Coinshot kills.

But please, at least share your reasons for lynching me, if it's not just what I responded to.  I'd love to hear it.

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Morning Edition 7

The Elendel Daily

Newsworthy Content for Every Octant!

The 29th of Doxil, 68, Morning

Price 2 Clips

 

Constabulary Granted New Powers in Wake of Deaths

At a conference this morning, Constables shocked all assembled when they announced that there had been three further deaths over the night, all related to the House Heron killings.

The first was not another murder, but an unfortunate result of pewter dragging - Burrsir, who was attacked the previous day (see the Morning Edition of the 28th of Doxil) has passed away from his injuries. Medical staff that arrived on the scene have stated that it appears that the seriousness of his injury was downplayed by his use of pewter to stave off the pain, allowing him to act and perform feats that should not have been possible for someone normally as hurt as he was. This lead to Our Mother of Terris Hospital releasing him from observation as they believed the wound was superficial, or at least not life-threatening. However, it appears that over the course of the night, Burrsir's body ran out of pewter to burn, and he died in his sleep.

Unfortunately, the other two deaths reported are of a more violent nature. Apparently emboldened by Governor Wilson's praise of vigilantism, one of our city's Mistings has taken it upon themselves to 'solve' the crimes that the Constabulary appear to be struggling with. A man named Quintus was discovered, dead, in the early hours of the morning. Embedded in his body, Constables found a spike of metal, confirmed to be Invested. However, the Constabulary have stressed that they have not ruled out the possibility that this attack was carried out by another Spiked individual, after some feud or schism.

The third death is of a man who has been in the broadsheets very frequently, as of late; Locke Tekiel. While it is possible that his death was related to the apparent war between House Heron and the Spiked, Constables have suggested that this may have been carried out by a disgruntled worker or someone who has been following the appeal by House Tekiel against the ruling made that found them negligent on the matter of worker safety. Constables are investigating the theory that this attack may have been carried out by someone that has been hurt, or by someone that has had close family suffer from their negligence. House Tekiel has refused to comment on whether their appeal will continue, but have requested a delay in proceedings due to their bereavement until they announce a new leader for their House.

The Governor has announced that the Constabulary will be granted new powers to investigate these deaths, including the ability to hold individuals without charge for longer periods of time. He has said that this could save lives by preventing potential serial killers or mass murders from being let free while evidence is gathered. Constables have welcomed this, stating that such powers would only be used rarely where there is a very real threat to public safety.

However, not everyone is pleased of such powers being handed out. Councillor Jernaq, newly-elected leader of the Change for Elendel party, has responded to this scathingly, opining 'People are afraid, and now is not the time to be abusing their fears in this cynical and above-all blatant attempt to win votes and curtail freedoms within the city,. It is reactionary and authoritarian, and we oppose it and his continued stranglehold on the city most strongly. After speaking to many of the Noble Houses within the city, it is clear that they do not trust the Governor. We expect to have enough signatures to force an election within the next few days.There will be a reckoning for Governor Wilson, and it will be very soon. I can promise that.'

Krea Erikeller

 

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Governor Wilson is not suitable to rule our city.

These past few days have shown him to be a manipulative and cowardly individual.

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Elendel needs a change in leadership, and in direction.

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Locke Tekiel, hailed as "The Champion of the People", passed away peacefully last night. Revered across the Basin, and commonly believed to be a Saint, his death will be mourned in a manner not seen since the deaths of the Originators. Official recognition of his service to Elendel is expected to include a State Funeral, with extended licensed to be granted to establishments through the city. In his life, Locke campaigned with relentless vigour on obtaining appropriate working conditions for the poorest of society, and he is widely credited for his contributions to Elendel's financial services industry. Supporters of his legacy are expected to push for the passing of a landmark bill granting restitution to those who suffered under the recent debt relief acts. (Obituary found on his desk by jubilant looters)

Quintus has passed beyond this mortal coil. Other mortal coils may not be so lucky.

 

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Imperial News – Change for Elendel Source States 'Election is Imminent'

The Daily Council - Skirmish in the City! Governor Announces New Constabulary Powers

The Hazekiller – Hospital Blamed For Letting Burrsir Leave Dead

The Financial Broadsheet – Lord Dibbleworth 'XIII' Faked Death, Arrested For Fraud

The Copper Star – REVEALED: The Secret Society Trying to 'BREED' Mistborn

 

Day 7 has begun! It will end at 7PM GMT 23rd November.

Quintus/Jondesu was a Spiked Rioter!

Locke Tekiel/Orlok Tsubodai was a Noble Tineye!

Burrsir/Coop772 has died of his injuries! He was a Noble Thug.

Locke Tekiel/Orlok Tsubodai has died, so there's no Influential player today.

 

Player List

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  1. xinoehp512 - Eviterces, a person of unknown quality. Why would they hide themselves like this?
  2. I think I am here. - Itiah XII. What happened to the other eleven? Rioter
  3. Fifth Scholar - Count Olaf, an old vassal that once was under the influence of Ruin. Ruin is gone, but what's to stop him falling under evil influence again? Noble
  4. Jondesu - Quintus, an old hat at situations like this. Makes you wonder how he lived through them to tell the tale... Rioter
  5. Elandera - Avi, a person who has no idea what an Ookla Season is. Is that the truth, or are they perhaps lying? Thug
  6. Araris Valerian - Ookla the Curmudgeonly, an old man with a stern face. Perhaps evil is concealed within that stony visage.
  7. Cadmium Compounder - Miumounder, also known as CadCom. Why would someone need two names? Soother
  8. Young Bard - Jendred, eighth son, and thus unimportant. You can probably ignore him.
  9. Gancho Libre - George R.D. Mackleberry. Never trust a man with two middle initials. Smoker
  10. Orlok Tsubodai - Locke Tekiel, named for a ruler of Fadrex City, beloved by all. This character is different in two regards. Tineye
  11. Steeldancer - Ookla of Squids. (This is getting out of hand, now there are two of them) Lurcher
  12. Rathmaskal - Lord Flamingo, flamboyant and fond of hopping.
  13. Snipexe - Snip Exeutor, has stopped working. Noble
  14. Coop772 - Burrsir, too cool for school. Thug
  15. Shqueeves - Ookla That Watches, definitely a Tineye.
  16. Furamirionid - Furamirionid Yuln'Broael, Fura to his friends (if he has any).
  17. Aonar Faileas - Tomir Izenry, only here for the money.
  18. A Joe in the Bush - Sabine Seidel, of questionable sanity.
  19. Ark1002 - Aniah Arkwood, from the roughs. Sticks out like a sore thumb in these fancy settings. Noble
  20. Nohadon - Severance Greed, greedy by name, greedy by repeated examples of taking more than his fair share throughout his life.
  21. MetaTerminal - The Immortal Kalfaix, a travelling magician. You can't trust these out-of-towners... Spiked
  22. Devotary of Spontaneity - Tessona, a Sliverist, but assuredly maybe probably not one of the bad guys. Noble
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Lord Araris it is!

Sorry for the relative inactivity during the night/early day.  Had something come up at work that required more of my attention than normal.

At this point, I don't think I'm going to convince people to go after Xino...  Young Bard still seems suspicious to me.  I've given a bit of an outline on that on previous cycles.  Right now it's my highest suspicion other than Xino, and with two village deaths last night, we definitely need a solid lynch.  I'll try to keep on the thread a bit, but tomorrow is going to be a bit crazy with Thanksgiving.

Araris has been very helpful the past few turns.

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Sorry, I really needed a break from thinking about SE yesterday.

Nohadon, I understand that Orlok said you should lynch me.  However, he never gave any reasons to be suspicious of me, he just said he was.  Please feel free to analyse me, and then vote, but just choosing someone because Orlok was suspicious of them, for no reason, is counter intuitive.

I believe I have addressed all of these things before.  I would apreciate it if you go back and read some of my previous posts.

Something I realized while PMing Orlok last night, was that you may all find it suspicious that I am defending myself rather than attacking other players.  It is a mindset thing. I have been focused on who can I trust in this game, and have tried to similarly make myself trustworthy, instead of making other people more suspicious than me.  Does basically the same thing, but a different approach.

I am going to edit in my vote in 10ish minutes. Once I have time to read over a couple posts in the thread. Though I think I know who I am going to vote for.

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Just now, Araris Valerian said:

@Furamirionind, the best way to make yourself not suspicious is to try and solve the game. Anything else is something an eliminator could be doing.

Yes, it is just slightly different views on how to solve the game.

the language in Bard's posts feel a bit weird to me.  Stating things that we already know as if they are new is the weird thing to me.  I think the original post of returning and stating a lot of false information is likely due to being gone for a while, and not rereading the thread before posting.

Bard / Araris

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The thing is, defending yourself doesn’t solve the game. If we all played defensively, nobody would ever get lynched and the village would lose.

I would also say that trying to make yourself trustworthy is suspicious in and of itself. I mean, I’m probably one of the most trusted players in this game and I’ve only been aggressive. People trust me because I tried to lynch Meta and Gancho (or maybe it’s for some other reason that I don’t know).

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OK, sorry for not responding earlier. It looks like I'm going to get lynched this cycle, but I'll try and do my best to respond to that.

I suppose I'll place a vote on Fura, as the only other lynch candidate this game. I was in a PM with them last night, and their response seemed suspicious to me. I quizzed them about their last minute vote of Gancho last cycle, and they seemed weirdly defensive about it. Looking back, it's a similar reaction to when Orlok asked them about their use of the word 'Spiked' - they put a strange amount of effort into defending themselves. (Note: I'm not saying that the use of the word 'Spiked' is suspicious - more on this later. I am saying the way Fura responded to that accusation was suspicious.)

I would respond to the accusations against me, but... honestly, I don't see any particular reasons why I'm getting lynched. Rath, I did make an innocent mistake about when Orlok first said they were suspicious of Terminal, but that was a genuine mistake - even if I were an Eliminator, I don't see how that would remotely help me - I was protecting Orlok while I'd probably be trying to achieve the opposite if I were an Elim.

There's also the fact that I use the word 'Spiked' in my posts, like the Tineye - honestly, I don't see this as a valid argument - I'll tend to adopt the words that something is described as for that game - you can go back to more or less any of my previous games and check that fact. I don't know whether the Tineye was trying to frame me or someone else by using that word, or if Fura's the Tineye, but either way, I'd rather not be lynched, potentially at the cost of the game, because of it.

Of course gut reads are a thing, but... it's kind of irritating I don't have anything to respond to to defend myself - jumping on bandwagons without analysis or explanation is also an easy way for the actual Eliminators to hide.

I also said I was suspicious of both Gancho and Jon before there was much suspicion on either of them - technically after Orlok posted the same thing, but I was working on that post independently of Orlok and wasn't influenced by that post when I made mine, or when I was trying to find who I was suspicious of.

But... yeah. I think I know roughly how I act as an Eliminator, and I'm pretty sure this isn't it.

I'll be on in about 5 or so hours time, if there are any other questions people want to ask me. I also (and this probably isn't the time to start sprouting controversial opinions, but I don't think it matters at this stage) think, looking back, that the suspicion of Rath dissipated really quickly after the Spiked Tineye message - part of me wonders if that was the intended purpose of the message. If it was a Tineye trying to get a member of the village killed, I feel their message could have been made a lot more convincing.

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