Ripheus23 Posted December 7, 2018 Report Share Posted December 7, 2018 On 11/25/2018 at 5:59 PM, John Flamesinger said: Please Brandon Sanderson, help. Wait, does Brandon ever come onto 17th Shard? PAFO Spoiler (post and find out) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RShara Posted December 7, 2018 Report Share Posted December 7, 2018 On 11/25/2018 at 6:56 PM, Calderis said: Which is my entire point. No one saw him pre-catacendre outside of Spook's near death dream. The only time he is seen to our knowledge by a waking person is in the final scene of SH. Edit: I mean, Marsh had twenty-two spikes and didn't see him. At which point, he was a Shard, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jace21 Posted December 7, 2018 Report Share Posted December 7, 2018 21 minutes ago, RShara said: At which point, he was a Shard, too. Kel wasn't a Shard when Spook saw him in the final scene of SH, it was after Harmony's ascension so he was a Sliver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RShara Posted December 7, 2018 Report Share Posted December 7, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Ookla the Mind Sculptor said: Kel wasn't a Shard when Spook saw him in the final scene of SH, it was after Harmony's ascension so he was a Sliver. Cal was talking about before that point. When he tells Spook that he has to send a message to Vin about the earring. Edited December 7, 2018 by RShara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderis Posted December 7, 2018 Report Share Posted December 7, 2018 23 minutes ago, RShara said: Cal was talking about before that point. When he tells Spook that he has to send a message to Vin about the earring. Nah, I was speaking about the very end. The time before, Spook doesn't "see" him. He has a dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RShara Posted December 7, 2018 Report Share Posted December 7, 2018 On 11/25/2018 at 6:56 PM, Calderis said: No one saw him pre-catacendre outside of Spook's near death dream. That's the part I was responding to? Spook's near death dream of Kelsier was while Kelsier was a Shard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ripheus23 Posted December 8, 2018 Report Share Posted December 8, 2018 21 hours ago, Ookla the Mind Sculptor said: Kel wasn't a Shard when Spook saw him in the final scene of SH, it was after Harmony's ascension so he was a Sliver. "X wasn't a Splinter when Y saw him, it was after Z's ascension so he was a Sliver." "No, he was a Shard." *another poster pops in* "Actually, he was a Sliver of a Sharded Splinter." "Don't you mean, a Shard of a Slivered Splinter?" "I think he means that X was a Flake of a Fragment, maybe." "No, I'm pretty sure he was a Fragmented Sliver of a Splintered Flake." *new poster unlurks* "I say, X is a Flaked Sliver of a Fragmented Splinter." "No! He was a SHARD." "A Sharded Fragment-Sliver of a Flaked Splinter?" "No! Just a SHARD!!!" *yet another poster* "According to this WoB *posts a WoB* he was actually a Droplet of a Sharded Flake-Splinter, who became a Slivered Fragment of a Smidgen, after fusing with the Iota of a Scintilla." 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderis Posted December 8, 2018 Report Share Posted December 8, 2018 You've added so much clarity and value to the conversation. Thank you Riph... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ripheus23 Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 The real reason Vin didn't see Kelsier is because she was seeing Elend already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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