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Theory: Illumination

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A small theory. In allomancy, gold, electrum, atrium, and malatium all work in a similar way and reveals possible futures or alternative presents.

Renarin's form of illumination seems to be a type of future sight, perhaps a type of spiritual illumination, and may work through similar realmatic process as atrium and electrum. What if regular illumination can reveal alternate presents like gold or malatium can?

Shallan creates alternate personalities which are incomplete because she doesn't actually have the experiences these alternative personalities would have. What if it isn't so simple? She may not be able to recognize it, but what if she is using illumination to pull in little bits of alternate Shallan? Is it possible that as she becomes more accomplished at using Illumination that she will be able to pull on experience that is not her own?

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Hmm, not to be flippant (except yes, to be flippant) I doubt Elend was eating a lot of these during his final battle:

Image result for atrium

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3 hours ago, LiquidBlue said:

A small theory. In allomancy, gold, electrum, atrium, and malatium all work in a similar way and reveals possible futures or alternative presents.

Renarin's form of illumination seems to be a type of future sight, perhaps a type of spiritual illumination, and may work through similar realmatic process as atrium and electrum. What if regular illumination can reveal alternate presents like gold or malatium can?

Shallan creates alternate personalities which are incomplete because she doesn't actually have the experiences these alternative personalities would have. What if it isn't so simple? She may not be able to recognize it, but what if she is using illumination to pull in little bits of alternate Shallan? Is it possible that as she becomes more accomplished at using Illumination that she will be able to pull on experience that is not her own?

I dont think so. You mention the point that Shallan creates these personalities. Her mind invents versions of herself to cope with things she mentally is incapable of taking on during the current events of the books. Renarin is using a hacked version, since we know his spren is corrupted, so I would imagine his future sight has more to do with that then it being linked to the way gold functions for mistings/mistborn. 

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29 minutes ago, Ripheus23 said:

Hmm, not to be flippant (except yes, to be flippant) I doubt Elend was eating a lot of these during his final battle:

Image result for atrium

Safari and I don't agree when it comes to autocorrect. I caught it changing Allomancy to Allowance, but missed this.

Those people seem to be quietly relaxing... Little do they know that a mistborn is stealthily approaching and will burn the atrium in pursuit of unstoppable power.

8 minutes ago, Johhny_Eastland said:

I dont think so. You mention the point that Shallan creates these personalities. Her mind invents versions of herself to cope with things she mentally is incapable of taking on during the current events of the books. Renarin is using a hacked version, since we know his spren is corrupted, so I would imagine his future sight has more to do with that then it being linked to the way gold functions for mistings/mistborn. 


It's a theory.

I think that Renarin's future sight is related to using spiritual illumination. It is not clear that every order is able to use the surges in the same way. For example, could Kaladin use spiritual adhesion to speak foreign languages? I am not sure that he could.

I'm playing around a little with Shallan using spiritual illumination. If she can use spiritual illumination, it does seem realmatically reasonable that a  type of spiritual illumination would be similar to allomantic gold. Since Shallan is already doing something that is somewhat similar, it makes me ask whether a more skillful use of the surge might actually be able to flesh out the other personalities a bit better. It could be as simple as the requirements involved in making essence marks. Shallan hasn't really tried to make her personalities realistic alternate histories. If she spent a little more time trying to establish the alternate personalities as plausible developments if her past had been different, she might be able to pull more fully developed details out of the spiritual realm.

Since she also has the soulcasting surge, her abilities maybe able to completely replicate the effects of an essence mark. 

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I dont really think so personally, but I dont know of any counterpoints Id say it's a valid theory. 

I have a couple thoughts, though Im not sure they add up to much.  Per WOB we know that Atium is an early example of a Fortune Effect.  I tend to think this implies that the Ultimate Future that flairing it shows is the allowmancer's current Platonic Ideal in the Spiritual Realm.  I dont think that Shallan's Lightweaving is realmically creating alternate versions the way Forgery can, mainly based on their flaw in that they dont actually have the knowledge/skills/experience of those alternative selves.  If she were to get better at those selves I think it would still be limited to her own storytelling abilities and not be able to realmically gain abilities she does not already possess even if their internal narratives should have it.  . 

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