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Did they know which shard they took up?

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So when the shards were taken up by the vessels, did they know which shard they took up? Did Ati know he had chosen Ruin? Did Uli-da choose to take up ambition or was it random?

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It is not random who got which Shard

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Brandon Sanderson (paraphrased)

Brandon said offhandedly, "It is not random who got which Shard." Also, Shards very rarely change hands. Brandon emphasized the "very" there.

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Personally I think that as with so many things it was about Connection. The Vessel most strongly connected to each Shard got that Shard. At least I'd like that to be the case. 

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Well, per This WOB we know that Hoid was "offered" one of the shards (a shard we've not yet seen per another WOB) which he turned down. We also know separately that Hoid would have been most tempted by Endowment, which was not the one offered.  From that it sounds like they did have a certain amount of choice and/or Informed Consent durign the process, but it doesnt actually confirm that he knew which one, specifically, he was turning down at the time. 

 

 

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Hoid was once offered a Shard, but he refused it, right?

Brandon Sanderson

Yes.

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Was it right after the Shattering?

Brandon Sanderson

Yes. It was during the events. I wouldn't necessarily say "right after", it was during this process. I would say this is a RAFO before I finish writing at that time. (Not sure if I understood the last sentence right, but I think that's what he said)

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And who took this Shard instead?

Brandon Sanderson

RAFO.

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It appears that they had some bit if forewarning even if it was just in the time between when Adonalsium was Shattered and when the Shards were picked up. 

Afterall, Frost say this about Rayse. 

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He bears the weight of God’s own divine hatred, separated from the virtues that gave it context. He is what we made him to be, old friend. And that is what he, unfortunately, wished to become.

What he wished to become. Not what he was stuck with. 

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14 hours ago, Calderis said:

It appears that they had some bit if forewarning even if it was just in the time between when Adonalsium was Shattered and when the Shards were picked up. 

Afterall, Frost say this about Rayse. 

What he wished to become. Not what he was stuck with. 

True, though Rayse's goals may have been for non-specific Ascension.  Both in that conversation are talking from the POV that holding a shard isnt a great thing for the Host, long term.  Im not that sure Frost would have phrased it much differently for any other shard.  If Hoid turned one down, presumably all the others would have had (and declined) the same opportunity. 

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Assuming the way the shards fell and were taken by the original vessels is in any way similar to what happened at the end of HoA, then they should've known. Sazed could see the shards sort of in the physical and when he tried to touch them he could intuit the nature of the shard.

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