+Invocation Posted August 24, 2018 Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 There's a curse in Era 2 that is Preservation's Wings. Why wings? Was it just because Preservation was a protective, enveloping thing sort of like an angel, or could it be that Leras was a dragon and Harmony, having seen the history of his powers, knew that and worked it in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlicensed Hemalurgist Posted August 24, 2018 Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 4 hours ago, Invocation said: could it be that Leras was a dragon and Harmony, having seen the history of his powers, knew that and worked it in? But why would your first guess be "he's a dragon?" We've met Leras before in both HoA and Secret History. We know he's not a dragon. We don't even know if Cosmere dragons have wings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderis Posted August 24, 2018 Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, Unlicensed Hemalurgist said: But why would your first guess be "he's a dragon?" We've met Leras before in both HoA and Secret History. We know he's not a dragon. We don't even know if Cosmere dragons have wings. I can't currently find the WoB, but Brandon has said before that Dragons are his only "stereotypical fantasy race" We also know that in the Cosmere they can look human of they want to. Quote Blightsong Are sandlings from white sand an early concept for crustaceans on Roshar, with greatshells being a parallel to deep sandlings? Brandon Sanderson No, um, the idea for white sand came first, and it was more that I was exploring divergent ecology, but I've been doing that in Dragonsteel and in White Sand and in here with Roshar. I would say that the fact that white sand hadn't been published meant that I could do something's that were similar without worrying about repeating myself, but it's not like I used them specifically as models. Blightsong *jokingly* So are we going to get to see little dragons running around in Dragonsteel? Brandon Sanderson Uh, well, in Dragonsteel the dragons are sapient, so when I write Dragonsteel I will put dragons in there, but the dragons are intelligent and uh, can take human form, but there are actual little dragons. Blightsong Wait, they can take human form? Brandon Sanderson Yes, yes, yup. source 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johhny_Eastland Posted August 24, 2018 Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 42 minutes ago, Calderis said: I can't currently find the WoB, but Brandon has said before that Dragons are his only "stereotypical fantasy race" We also know that in the Cosmere they can look human of they want to. To add to this. We know from the Traveler that Dragon's in human form have different and very distinct eyes. "The pupils were rimmed with a silver far too metallic to be natural, at least for a human." I would imagine that if Leras or Ati were dragon's in Human form before passing Kelsier would have at least mentioned that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Invocation Posted August 24, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Unlicensed Hemalurgist said: But why would your first guess be "he's a dragon?" I just really want to know why they chose Wings as the curse and I like dragons. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serack Posted August 24, 2018 Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 From the Arcanum Unbound intro to the Scadrial section: Quote Yes, the Shards undoubtedly used humans from Yolen as a model (indeed, both of the Vessels for these Shards were human before their Ascensions) in creating life. Because of this, the flora and fauna on Scadrial are very similar to what you’ll find on Yolen. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+robardin Posted August 30, 2018 Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 (edited) On 8/24/2018 at 7:17 PM, Invocation said: I just really want to know why they chose Wings as the curse and I like dragons. :/ I looked it up with a Kindle search. This invocation is used only once (so far), by Wax early on in The Alloy of Law (Ch. 3), exclaiming over some really good tea ("Preservation's Wings, man! This is good."). The only other Era 2 invocation of Preservation beyond simply using that name alone ("Oh, Preservation", "for Preservation's sake"), or in reference to the actual Shard, was in Shadows of Self (Ch. 26), when Reddi curses: "Pure Preservation... They're going to turn into a lynch mob." Saying "Pure Preservation" is probably a nicely alliterative light blasphemy in separating out a component of Harmony, similar to the more common "Rust and Ruin!", without going as far as cursing by Harmony himself ("Harmony's Bands", "By Harmony's lost testicles", and so on). But "Preservation's Wings" does sound oddly specific, and to something we (as readers) had not associated with Preservation otherwise. I'm going to guess it's some kind of imagery used by Pathians, maybe a poetic way to refer to the mists? Edited August 30, 2018 by robardin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmnsquirtle Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 18 hours ago, robardin said: "By Harmony's lost testicles" Absolutely savage! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+robardin Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 54 minutes ago, tmnsquirtle said: Absolutely savage! Heh, it's my "headcanon" that just as in our world, the now-quaint interjection "zounds!" derived from the Shakespearean "'swounds!" which was a euphemism for the blasphemous "God's wounds", maybe by Era 3 someone on Scadrial will drop a "spalls!" Hey, maybe that's the distant origin for the term "slotnze" in The Reckoners books, which Sanderson originally intended to fit with his Cosmere works (until he decided definitively not to have any alt-Earths in the Cosmere). A corruption of a Scadrian curse from "God's lost nuts", LOL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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