Gancho Libre Posted November 29, 2018 Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 16 minutes ago, Ookla the Foxed said: Some might? Maples are basically just all people (PCs, NPCs) who don't have epic powers. Also, what happens if someone force someone else to kill him? Who would die? Example: Person A puts a bomb on person B and tells him that it'll go off if he doesn't kill Armando, so person B kills him. This makes B directly responsible for his death, but A would be indirectly responsible, because they are the reason B did it. So in this case, would A die, B die, or both of them? I'm figuring it out. One option would be to have whoever Armando perceived as the killer be killed. The other is that whoever had the most blame would be killed. I'm much more tempted to do the first one as if I did the second, then the blame would go straight to the mastermind, which is not what I want. So, whoever he thinks is the true killer is killed. He can be wrong about this, but he was to legitimately think one person's the murderer to work. I'm still working out the kinks tho. 19 minutes ago, Ookla the Palindrome said: The role of Maples is to not be Epics. Some Maples are important characters, while others are just there to get killed, or used, or create problems. They're just the normal - and abnormal but non-Epic - people, and they do whatever they want while trying not to spark off any Epics. Unless they're Reckoners. Ok, then he's not a Maple. If it wouldn't be too convenient, I'd like for Armando to be a part of the Reckoners. I think that's the place he'd go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenod Posted November 29, 2018 Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 What if he blamed Calamity for creating the situation in the first place, and thus ultimately him being responsible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gancho Libre Posted November 29, 2018 Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 That's what I'm still figuring out. Perhaps he would kill the most direct person to blame for his death. I dunno. I'll ponder that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the winter system Posted November 29, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 Kokichi: Master of tact. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenod Posted November 29, 2018 Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 (edited) I'm now reminded of all those times in books where I just wanted everybody to tell everyone else what was going on, so all the stupid misunderstandings and people doing the wrong things because of missing information will finally stop. Edited November 29, 2018 by Ookla the Foxed word choice 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the winter system Posted November 29, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, Ookla the Foxed said: I'm now reminded of all those times in books where I just wanted everybody to tell everyone else what was going on, so all the stupid misunderstandings and people doing the wrong things because of missing information will finally stop. Not really sure if everyone knowing the full truth would help in this case. Might turn into even more of a disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenod Posted November 29, 2018 Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 You've got three Epics, including Funtimes and Kokichi in close proximity. Is there any way this wouldn't end badly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwiLyghtSansSparkles Posted November 29, 2018 Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 (edited) Well, Nathan's hopefully pushed the conversation along a bit in that short post I just added. Edited November 29, 2018 by DirtyOoklafaceFullOfLame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Eyes Productions_YT Posted November 29, 2018 Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 @Ookla the NotVoidus High Epics with Prime Defense Invincibilities can stop it. If not, It will hit no matter what. But he doesn't kill other Epics so he doesn't have to worry about that. He hangs low so that he doesn't have any rival Epics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgedancer Posted November 29, 2018 Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 3 hours ago, Ookla the Foxed said: Some might? Maples are basically just all people (PCs, NPCs) who don't have epic powers. Also, what happens if someone force someone else to kill him? Who would die? Example: Person A puts a bomb on person B and tells him that it'll go off if he doesn't kill Armando, so person B kills him. This makes B directly responsible for his death, but A would be indirectly responsible, because they are the reason B did it. So in this case, would A die, B die, or both of them? 2 hours ago, Ookla the Libre said: I'm figuring it out. One option would be to have whoever Armando perceived as the killer be killed. The other is that whoever had the most blame would be killed. I'm much more tempted to do the first one as if I did the second, then the blame would go straight to the mastermind, which is not what I want. So, whoever he thinks is the true killer is killed. He can be wrong about this, but he was to legitimately think one person's the murderer to work. I'm still working out the kinks tho. Ok, then he's not a Maple. If it wouldn't be too convenient, I'd like for Armando to be a part of the Reckoners. I think that's the place he'd go. Other scenario, what about mind control powers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gancho Libre Posted November 29, 2018 Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 I got it. What if, instead of his powers going off Armando's own perception, it goes off other's? As in, his power kills whoever thinks they are the most to blame for his death. This excludes Calamity, because Calamity blames the Epics themselves. This also means that if armando dies in a complete accident, he doesn't take anyone down with him, but there aslo isn't a point to strapping a bomb to someopne else or mind-controlling someone. Does this work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwiLyghtSansSparkles Posted November 29, 2018 Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 19 minutes ago, Ookla the Libre said: I got it. What if, instead of his powers going off Armando's own perception, it goes off other's? As in, his power kills whoever thinks they are the most to blame for his death. This excludes Calamity, because Calamity blames the Epics themselves. This also means that if armando dies in a complete accident, he doesn't take anyone down with him, but there aslo isn't a point to strapping a bomb to someopne else or mind-controlling someone. Does this work? What if he dies in an accident for which someone else blames themselves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gancho Libre Posted November 29, 2018 Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 6 minutes ago, DirtyOoklafaceFullOfLame said: What if he dies in an accident for which someone else blames themselves? There's always a doubt in the mind of those people. Is it really their fault? If a kid trips Armando, and hge falls off a cliff, sure that kid would die as well. But if an engineer makes a faulty skilift that crashes to the ground with Armando inside, the engineer would be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrakeMarshall Posted November 29, 2018 Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 1 hour ago, Ookla the Libre said: There's always a doubt in the mind of those people. Is it really their fault? If a kid trips Armando, and hge falls off a cliff, sure that kid would die as well. But if an engineer makes a faulty skilift that crashes to the ground with Armando inside, the engineer would be fine. Kind of a fringe case, but what would happen if they were killed violently by a large group, like an angry mob or a stoning or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the winter system Posted November 29, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 6 hours ago, Ookla the Foxed said: You've got three Epics, including Funtimes and Kokichi in close proximity. Is there any way this wouldn't end badly? Considering these quirky shenanigans are going to eventually end with Nighthound coming back from the dead, I’m inclined to agree. It can only get worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenod Posted November 29, 2018 Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 It does give a pretty good in-world justification for not having pre-cogs. Any that were in Edmonton would have probably fled town already. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrakeMarshall Posted November 29, 2018 Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 30 minutes ago, Ookla the Foxed said: It does give a pretty good in-world justification for not having pre-cogs. Any that were in Edmonton would have probably fled town already. That, and also the only prominent precog in the area was assassinated by the Reckoners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the winter system Posted November 29, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 38 minutes ago, Ookla the Foxed said: It does give a pretty good in-world justification for not having pre-cogs. Any that were in Edmonton would have probably fled town already. Thus, prompting the (second) question: What Will Happen In Edmonton? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenod Posted November 29, 2018 Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 Nightblood will get put in the Circuit, and then subjugate the entire world, putting Calamity to shame when it comes to creating hellholes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snipexe Posted November 29, 2018 Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 1 minute ago, winter devotion said: Thus, prompting the (second) question: What Will Happen In Edmonton? Quote I have seen the end, and have heard it named. The Night of Sorrows, the True Desolation. The Everstorm. — Collected on Naneses 1172, 15 seconds pre-death, by the Silent Gatherers. Subject was a darkeyed youth of unknown origin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the winter system Posted November 29, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, Ookla the Foxed said: Nightblood will get put in the Circuit, and then subjugate the entire world, putting Calamity to shame when it comes to creating hellholes. That would be (probably) (very slightly) better than if he got the infinity stones. but iT'S STILL A REALLY BAD IDEA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenod Posted November 29, 2018 Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 How about Funtimes getting corrupted again and ending up in the Circuit (or would the Circuit automatically corrupt Epics)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwiLyghtSansSparkles Posted November 29, 2018 Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 4 minutes ago, Ookla the Foxed said: How about Funtimes getting corrupted again and ending up in the Circuit (or would the Circuit automatically corrupt Epics)? That would make her sad enough to change her name to Sadtimes, if she ever overcame the corruption for a second time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenod Posted November 29, 2018 Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 I was thinking more of what a corrupted, power boosted Funtimes would do to the rest of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwiLyghtSansSparkles Posted November 29, 2018 Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 4 minutes ago, Ookla the Foxed said: I was thinking more of what a corrupted, power boosted Funtimes would do to the rest of the world. That would depend on whether or not she once again took on the childlike persona as a coping mechanism, or if she just went straight to Darktimes. And whether or not that happened would depend on the circumstances that got her corrupted again. So, let’s call it a tossup between “lots and lots of rubber chickens” and “lots and lots of acid.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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