LiquidBlue Posted June 7, 2018 Report Share Posted June 7, 2018 As I understand it, in hemalurgy, atium is a universal spike capable of stealing any attribute (if the person making the spike has the proper knowledge). We also know the feruchemical and allomatic properties of Atium. We don't know any of the feruchemical, allomatic, or hemalurgical properties of Lerasium. Assuming that Lerasium can be used in hemalurgy (which seems reasonable, Trellium is hemalurgically viable), I propose that it would make spikes that don't suffer from hemalurgical decay. The attributes are preserved. Lerasium shouldn't compete with Atium as a universal spike. Without any real evidence, I'll suggest that Lerasium spikes can steal allomatic power (since it is Preservation's magic system), and perhaps human attributes (since there is a little more of Preservation in humans than Ruin.) Further theory: Harmonium, if it can be used without blowing up, is both a universal spike (from Ruin), and doesn't suffer from hemalurgical decay (from Preservation). sidenote: Is Trellium a universal spike? In shadows of self, it steals both allomatic and feruchemical abilities, and is used to make the hemalurgical constructs (apparantly from stolen animal attributes) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goody153 Posted June 9, 2018 Report Share Posted June 9, 2018 (edited) I think Atium still has plenty advantage over Trellium simply because it's the same investure as the magic system. And only harmony knows the full application of Atium or even Lerasium. I think Lerasium hemalurgy has some funky effects. Or maybe it completely does nothing. Which only harmony knows as well Edited June 9, 2018 by goody153 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Mistbreaker Posted June 10, 2018 Report Share Posted June 10, 2018 Very intriguing theory. Sounds logical to me and it has loads of fanfic potential as well. Thaks for bringing it to my attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoiseSpren Posted June 14, 2018 Report Share Posted June 14, 2018 Lerasium is of Perservation. Perservation and hemalurgy cannot be used in one sentence. I think lerasium is not friend with hemalurgy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The One Who Connects Posted June 23, 2018 Report Share Posted June 23, 2018 On 6/14/2018 at 9:52 AM, NoiseSpren said: Lerasium is of Preservation. Preservation and Hemalurgy cannot be used in one sentence. I think Lerasium is not friend with Hemalurgy. Any Metal that works in one of the systems will work in all three. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoiseSpren Posted June 23, 2018 Report Share Posted June 23, 2018 Ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Ark1002 Posted June 24, 2018 Report Share Posted June 24, 2018 On 6/14/2018 at 7:52 AM, NoiseSpren said: Lerasium is of Perservation. Perservation and hemalurgy cannot be used in one sentence. I think lerasium is not friend with hemalurgy. It would work for all three, but would it maybe cause an affect where Hemalurgy was in this spike good, like it could steal any attribute, but instead of losing enregy, you would gain power. Who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderis Posted June 24, 2018 Report Share Posted June 24, 2018 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Ark1002 said: It would work for all three, but would it maybe cause an affect where Hemalurgy was in this spike good, like it could steal any attribute, but instead of losing enregy, you would gain power. Who knows? None of the Shards are inherently good or evil. Morality is not a part of the intent. Preservation as "good" is only true in contrast to ruin. A godmetal in another system isn't going to change the mechanics of that system. Lerasium should still leak, just like Atium granted power instead of causing loss in Allomancy. Edited June 24, 2018 by Calderis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Ark1002 Posted June 24, 2018 Report Share Posted June 24, 2018 10 hours ago, Calderis said: None of the Shards are inherently good or evil. Morality is not a part of the intent. Preservation as "good" is only true in contrast to ruin. A godmetal in another system isn't going to change the mechanics of that system. Lerasium should still leak, just like Atium granted power instead of causing loss in Allomancy. Oh. That is true, so I wonder what the effect would be? Maybe Lerasium could steal full mistborn powers? And Ettmetal could steal full feruchemy? It is interesting to think about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SzethIsBadAsHell Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 On 6/7/2018 at 11:26 AM, LiquidBlue said: Assuming that Lerasium can be used in hemalurgy (which seems reasonable, Trellium is hemalurgically viable), I propose that it would make spikes that don't suffer from hemalurgical decay. The attributes are preserved. Thing is let say u are 100 percent correct . Why would anybody want to use Lerasium as. A spike ? They could break the spike up and make 7 or 8 beads . Making themselves a Mistborn , they could take 3 beads and be a triple strong Mistborn . Unless your going to use the spike and steal Ferachemicsl powers and only get one ! I’d make myself and all my family a Mistborn and sell the other beads for a fortune! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Szmit Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 BrandySandy said that using lerasium for a spike is like using a nuclear bomb as a paperweight. My proposition is that it steals beeing a full mistbron. Doesn't work on anything else, just full mistborn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidBlue Posted June 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 On 6/25/2018 at 7:42 AM, SzethIsBadAsHell said: Thing is let say u are 100 percent correct . Why would anybody want to use Lerasium as. A spike ? They could break the spike up and make 7 or 8 beads . Making themselves a Mistborn , they could take 3 beads and be a triple strong Mistborn . Unless your going to use the spike and steal Ferachemicsl powers and only get one ! I’d make myself and all my family a Mistborn and sell the other beads for a fortune! I wouldn't suggest that actually using Lerasium as a spike makes sense in terms of power potential. I am just speculating and offering a theory about Lerasium hemalurgy. 16 hours ago, Szmit said: BrandySandy said that using lerasium for a spike is like using a nuclear bomb as a paperweight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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