Ryshadium Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 I probably would too if I were him. Ok, so the numbers are relevant. They aren't straight longitude, because this map is actually tilted based on the real geography of Roshar. I think. Maybe. I give up. Also, the numbers are different on the top and bottom I think, though I am heavily basing this on the (incorrect) transcription above. Do the lines on the map point to specific numbers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterAhlstrom Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 this map is actually tilted based on the real geography of Roshar. It's an issue of different map projections. On the main Roshar map, if it had lines, they would be quite curved especially near the bottom. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryshadium Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 So Roshar is round? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harakeke Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 Um...your numbers aren't in the right place. And yes, it matters. Yeah.... I just slapped two lines of text on there real quick to make it clear they were numbers. Didn't have time to align the characters properly... (sorry folks!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryshadium Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 How dare you Harakeke! So...um, what are the real numbers? Not that I will be able to accomplish anything with that information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicatrix Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 Perhaps there is something to do with the "sun" in the bottom left being black. It kind of looks like a black gem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RShara Posted March 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 maybe they're shardpools or locations of Unmade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shardlet Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 (edited) Um...your numbers aren't in the right place. And yes, it matters. Yeah, the top numbers start going off at 15-21 and none of the bottom numbers are in the right place. The heavy gray lines are latitude and longitude. The two zeros should be connected by the right-vertical grey line, tens by the center grey line, and 20s by the left grey line. The red lines are lines between roses. Edit: .|| = 20; .| = 10; and . = 0 Edited March 18, 2014 by Shardlet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harakeke Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 How dare you Harakeke! So...um, what are the real numbers? Not that I will be able to accomplish anything with that information. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryshadium Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 Thank you. Also, it's clear that I do not have a future in cartography. But I look forward to when you all figure it out for me, so thank you in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RShara Posted March 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 (edited) maybe we can use them to extrapolate the rest of the longitudinal lines? I can see from the extreme tilt of the lines that the bottom of Roshar is verrry near the south pole. Also the compass roses seem to always be on at least one major long or lat line and often both. Edit: I wonder if the compass on the main Roshar color map marks the Southern Pole? Edited March 18, 2014 by RShara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argent Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 maybe we can use them to extrapolate the rest of the longitudinal lines? I can see from the extreme tilt of the lines that the bottom of Roshar is verrry near the south pole. Also the compass roses seem to always be on at least one major long or lat line and often both. Hmm, yes, exactly what I was thinking. I lack the practical experience to do it, however. Maybe if work stays this slow, I can learn cartography... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humph Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 One thing I notice is that the Purelake is supposedly only wading depth. Yet in Shadesmar its complement is shown as mountains. One would think it would be shown as a plain or flat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RShara Posted March 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 Peter, I live here in Salt Lake City, can I be your assistant/slave so I can learn what this means? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryshadium Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 Maybe Roshar is really the missing southern part of Scadrial. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+rhaiynebow Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 I was thinking the SAME THING Ryshadium! I remember a long time ago a statement saying that we'd see more about a different region of Scadrial at some point. I just don't know if you could have the two different types of magic systems on the same planet, but in different regions. Also, although it seems likely that the "dates" in the Chapter 88 epigraph are actually dates, could they correspond to map locations instead? I only ask because the comment below says that they "appear" to be a sequence of dates. I am NOT map knowledgeable, so I could be totally wrong. But thought I'd throw it out there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shardlet Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 Maybe Roshar is really the missing southern part of Scadrial. Nope. We have already been told that Roshar has a single continent. Brandon left it open though that there may be some smaller islands and such out there. But, the landmass on the maps is most of the landmass on Roshar. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryshadium Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 (edited) It would certainly explain why Nazh is running around annotating maps only on Scadrial and Roshar Ryshadium, on 18 Mar 2014 - 3:47 PM, said: Maybe Roshar is really the missing southern part of Scadrial. Nope. We have already been told that Roshar has a single continent. Brandon left it open though that there may be some smaller islands and such out there. But, the landmass on the maps is most of the landmass on Roshar. It was (mostly) a joke Would be quite the trick on Brandon's part if it were true though. Edited March 18, 2014 by Ryshadium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shardlet Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 (edited) But, it also cannot be since we know that the southern continent peoples of Scadrial use the metallic arts as well. Just in a different manner than the northern continent peoples. And surgebinding is definitely not an aspect of the metallic arts. Edited March 18, 2014 by Shardlet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veil Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 Edit: I wonder if the compass on the main Roshar color map marks the Southern Pole? Assuming you mean the WoR Endpaper map, I doubt it. I mean, I can't be sure how similar to Earth's South Pole Roshar's would be, but If the compass is the South Pole, all the land around there should be basically uninhabitable, and there seem to be a lot of nations in that region. Besides, I don't think the longitudinal lines would converge there (though I'd need to do more than eyeball it to say for sure.) One thing that does have me curious--how much of the continent is contained in the Western Hemisphere? If it takes a highstorm ~1 day to cover the whole continent but a week or more to circle back around, that suggests that there's a LOT of ocean out there, but the longitude markings on are making it seem like there isn't enough room to account for the lulls in highstorm. At least, not if they're just circling the planet at a roughly constant rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryshadium Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 Well, there is the question I saw floating around about the metal in the fabrials! Really, though, just cracking some pots since I'm inept at this map stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RShara Posted March 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 (edited) Assuming you mean the WoR Endpaper map, I doubt it. I mean, I can't be sure how similar to Earth's South Pole Roshar's would be, but If the compass is the South Pole, all the land around there should be basically uninhabitable, and there seem to be a lot of nations in that region. Besides, I don't think the longitudinal lines would converge there (though I'd need to do more than eyeball it to say for sure.) One thing that does have me curious--how much of the continent is contained in the Western Hemisphere? If it takes a highstorm ~1 day to cover the whole continent but a week or more to circle back around, that suggests that there's a LOT of ocean out there, but the longitude markings on are making it seem like there isn't enough room to account for the lulls in highstorm. At least, not if they're just circling the planet at a roughly constant rate. You're probably right. I was looking at the tilt of the number line rather than the long. lines at first. Still, I'd like to see the Long+Lat together on the worldmap Hmm the mid NW compass seems to correspond to the shield/stamp on the Alethkar map here. http://coppermind.net/w/images/Alethkar.jpg And the outline of that shield looks a bit like the outline of the crab-thing discussed earlier... Edited March 18, 2014 by RShara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+rhaiynebow Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 Thank you all for the edumication I didn't realize that about Scadrial or Roshar. It's good to know it's been confirmed this is the only major landmass on Roshar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Maresia Posted March 18, 2014 Popular Post Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 Asuming that roshar is round, it should look like this right? (its not very well done) Notice how the ciruclar compass its almost in the south pole 26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RShara Posted March 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 (edited) That is incredible cool. And now looks even more like a dragon (the eye is the lake below Alethkar, the maw is the Frostlands), and she's about to eat Thaylenar! Edited March 18, 2014 by RShara 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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