Voidus Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 21 minutes ago, I think I am here. said: Uh, just one more time, how do we know Kidpen here didn't just make all of this up? He could have very easily seen @PrinceDusty Join TUBA and then make what he showed us up. I mean, just look at what he's written and match it up with what he's written before. The stuff Kidpen has shown is written in his own style for storms sake. All you have to do is look at some of the other stuff Kidpen has written and you'll see the similarity immediately. Ghostblood's Ghostbloods 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrinceDusty Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 As a matter of fact, @PrinceDusty would like to elaborate, but he has an AP bio project; AP bio test, Spanish oral presentation, and parents who are freaking out at him about all of the above and severely limiting 17th Shard interactions. You know how it is. I might be able to get back on tomorrow. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyrann Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 10 hours ago, Kidpen said: 4: We need to plant eyes in TUBA and the DA, but I think this is already done, with Mraize and TFA, if they are willing. This is a very weird sentence, however. Supposedly, Mraize is the writer of this. Hmm... This might be a lie after all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voidus Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, Leyrann said: This is a very weird sentence, however. Supposedly, Mraize is the writer of this. Hmm... This might be a lie after all. Didn't say Mraize was the writer, OP is: Quote @Mraize Has been screwing with us this whole time. He claimed the Ghostblood's were disbanded. This is very false. I discovered the plot when I saw this message: The claim that Mraize is messing with us is separate from who the writer of the message is. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyrann Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 minute ago, Voidus said: Didn't say Mraize was the writer, OP is: The claim that Mraize is messing with us is separate from who the writer of the message is. Who would add "if they are willing" when reporting about this, however? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voidus Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, Leyrann said: Who would add "if they are willing" when reporting about this, however? Not sure I follow, why wouldn't you want to be sure that potential spies were willing to be spies? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyrann Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Voidus said: Not sure I follow, why wouldn't you want to be sure that potential spies were willing to be spies? Either 1. The "if they are willing" implies that this is a proposal, not set in stone yet, so Mraize is the writer. This means he referred to himself in third person in the sentence. 2. The third person reference to Mraize implies he is not the writer, which means the writer isn't doing the proposal, which means the "if they are willing" makes no sense. Edited April 27, 2018 by Leyrann 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voidus Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, Leyrann said: Either 1. The "if they are willing" implies that this is a proposal, not set in stone yet, so Mraize is the writer. This means he referred to himself in third person in the sentence. Why would it being a proposal necessitate it being Mraize that wrote it? At a guess I'd say likely Blazenella 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyrann Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Voidus said: Why would it being a proposal necessitate it being Mraize that wrote it? At a guess I'd say likely Blazenella According to Kidpen, Mraize is behind this all. So it doesn't make sense he isn't the one writing it. I mean, it's quite a 'full' thing, this isn't just some minor addition to something someone else wrote. Edited April 27, 2018 by Leyrann 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voidus Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 minute ago, Leyrann said: According to Kidpen, Mraize is behind this all. So it doesn't make sense he isn't the one writing it. I mean, it's quite a 'full' thing, this isn't just some minor addition to something someone else wrote. Difference in reading I guess but that wasn't how I read the OP. According to Kidpen, Mraize lied about the Ghostbloods being dissolved, a different author writing this message doesn't change that. Doesn't say that Mraize is the mastermind who orchestrated this single-handedly, the fact that this is a message at all implies that at least some other people are involved. Proposed chain of events: Someone (Again, likely Blazenella) proposes that the ghostbloods fake being disbanded and send certain members to other guilds, if they are willing. Mraize accepts this proposal, pretends to disband the ghostbloods. The first quote even says "Now, the subplan we have concocted", implying the plan was a result of multiple peoples input. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyrann Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 minute ago, Voidus said: Difference in reading I guess but that wasn't how I read the OP. According to Kidpen, Mraize lied about the Ghostbloods being dissolved, a different author writing this message doesn't change that. Doesn't say that Mraize is the mastermind who orchestrated this single-handedly, the fact that this is a message at all implies that at least some other people are involved. Proposed chain of events: Someone (Again, likely Blazenella) proposes that the ghostbloods fake being disbanded and send certain members to other guilds, if they are willing. Mraize accepts this proposal, pretends to disband the ghostbloods. The first quote even says "Now, the subplan we have concocted", implying the plan was a result of multiple peoples input. Fair points. We'll have to wait and see how it unfolds, I guess. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voidus Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 Actually, simple solution: If the PMs and discord are now only being used for discussion between friends and no planning is taking place in them then there shouldn't be an issue inviting a representative of the other guilds to them to verify if any of this took place. If the ghostbloods have indeed dissolved then there shouldn't be anything there that needs to be hidden from other guilds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyrann Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 12 minutes ago, Voidus said: Actually, simple solution: If the PMs and discord are now only being used for discussion between friends and no planning is taking place in them then there shouldn't be an issue inviting a representative of the other guilds to them to verify if any of this took place. If the ghostbloods have indeed dissolved then there shouldn't be anything there that needs to be hidden from other guilds. This is a good point. To ensure neutrality, a TUBA member and a DA member can get added to the chat? Me and Voidus? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacThorstenson Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 I could get behind this. Though how would you ensure that they are being added to all of the chats? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yvainnie Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 14 minutes ago, Voidus said: Actually, simple solution: If the PMs and discord are now only being used for discussion between friends and no planning is taking place in them then there shouldn't be an issue inviting a representative of the other guilds to them to verify if any of this took place. If the ghostbloods have indeed dissolved then there shouldn't be anything there that needs to be hidden from other guilds. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voidus Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, MacThorstenson said: I could get behind this. Though how would you ensure that they are being added to all of the chats? Well unless they've prepared dummy PMs with a time-accurate history then I think it'd be ok. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacThorstenson Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) Im thinking that they could have multiple chats for various things, one of those could be for super secret things, another for more public things not necessarily dummies, but just different pms Edited April 27, 2018 by MacThorstenson 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kidpen Posted April 27, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) Prince is not my source. My source is that Liebrarians know all. I have more proof that I've decided to share. So yay for more proof! I hope you all appreciate this. Edit: Oh, I believe that that quote was written by Blazenella at the request of Mraize. Edit 2: Blazenella said this on the Liebrary chat: Quote And I'd like to know how you would have access to our information. Seems that the phrasing "our information" seems indicative that it is real information. Edited April 27, 2018 by Kidpen Accidentaly posted a pic twice 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazenella Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 Kidpen just dug themselves a serious hole. I'm chuckling to myself right now. Kidpen just practically confirmed that they are using a second account to infiltrate us, which I'm fairly certain is against some of our rules. They just shared screenshots from what is our Discord. Something that only GB members were invited to. They are using a second account to spy on our Discord and PM's. I say PM's as well because there isn't a single Discord member that isn't also on our PM's. I believe this alt account is @Soul because when they joined they had no previous posts or rep, and also admitted to being an alt, but not an alt to who. It may be one of the other newer members, but this is still solid evidence of Kidpen's crimes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kidpen Posted April 27, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Blazenella said: Kidpen just dug themselves a serious hole. I'm chuckling to myself right now. Kidpen just practically confirmed that they are using a second account to infiltrate us, which I'm fairly certain is against some of our rules. They just shared screenshots from what is our Discord. Something that only GB members were invited to. They are using a second account to spy on our Discord and PM's. I say PM's as well because there isn't a single Discord member that isn't also on our PM's. I believe this alt account is @Soul because when they joined they had no previous posts or rep, and also admitted to being an alt, but not an alt to who. It may be one of the other newer members, but this is still solid evidence of Kidpen's crimes. No, actually. If the mods want to talk with me about this though, I would be happy too. Edit: Why would I join Legendwielders with two different accounts? Edited April 27, 2018 by Kidpen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazenella Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 5 minutes ago, Kidpen said: No, actually. If the mods want to talk with me about this though, I would be happy too. Edit: Why would I join Legendwielders with two different accounts? If you aren't using a second account, then how do you have pictures of our discord? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kidpen Posted April 27, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, Blazenella said: If you aren't using a second account, then how do you have pictures of our discord? I told you. Liebrarians know all. Edited April 27, 2018 by Kidpen Wrong post 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazenella Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, Kidpen said: I told you. Liebrarians know all. More like you're full of BS 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voidus Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 10 minutes ago, Blazenella said: Kidpen just dug themselves a serious hole. I'm chuckling to myself right now. Kidpen just practically confirmed that they are using a second account to infiltrate us, which I'm fairly certain is against some of our rules. They just shared screenshots from what is our Discord. Something that only GB members were invited to. They are using a second account to spy on our Discord and PM's. I say PM's as well because there isn't a single Discord member that isn't also on our PM's. I believe this alt account is @Soul because when they joined they had no previous posts or rep, and also admitted to being an alt, but not an alt to who. It may be one of the other newer members, but this is still solid evidence of Kidpen's crimes. If someone has told you that they are using an alt please let the mods or admins know, secondary accounts are indeed against forum policy and no one should be using them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Life&Death Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 While I do have two accounts(only because I didn’t know I wasn’t supposed to) neither of them are Kidpen. I am willing to delete one of them. Who should I contact about my mistake? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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