Popular Post Stormfather-in-Law Posted April 8, 2018 Popular Post Report Share Posted April 8, 2018 So I finished a re-read of the series after finishing Oathbringer. Hadn't planned to do that, as I did a re-read before starting Oathbringer, but it felt like so many ? moments from the earlier books have now become ! moments, I had to go back. Something I saw this time through is a trend with Kaladin over the arc of the books so far that I had not seen before. What I noticed reminded me of this worthy (non-WoB) quote: Quote When you put people in the box marked them, you can kick them around a lot more easily than you can when they're in the box marked us. So I think it's useful to try and empty the box marked them and fill up the box marked us. —. Peter Gabriel. What I think: Kaladin has a tendency to shake the "them" box, and then take those that fall out and put them into the "us" box. The origin of this tendency is his father, Lirin. And I think this will become significant in the future. Of course, Kaladin does not start this way. As a slave, Kaladin has been broken down to the point of having an "us" box consisting of one person: himself. And he has been trained like this: Quote Many people were dying on the other side of the chasm, but Kaladin didn’t feel a thing for them. No itch to heal them, no desire to help. Kaladin could thank Hav for that, for training him to think in terms of “us” and “them.” In a way, Kaladin had learned what his father had talked about. In the wrong way, but it was something. Protect the “us,” destroy the “them.” A soldier had to think like that. So Kaladin hated the Parshendi. They were the enemy. If he hadn’t learned to divide his mind like that, war would have destroyed him. Emphasis mine. The quote is from near the end of WoK. Those that have finished Oathbringer will note the contrast between that and what happens later in Kholinar. Bridge Four As we know, Kaladin stops caring just about himself and begins to strongly identify with Bridge Four. Over the course of WoK, they become his "us" people. But what really is Bridge Four? It starts as a set of individuals, but morphs into only an idea, a concept. Even before WoK ends, Bridge Four starts expanding to become Bridge Four Plus, as members from other bridge crews get added to the group. Here's where Kaladin begins helping wounded members of other bridge crews: Quote “The members of Bridge Four were silent. Kaladin looked up from the confused, wounded man. “Kaladin,” Rock said. “You know how the other bridge crews have treated us.” “I don’t care,” Kaladin said.” “We don’t have any money left,” Drehy said. “Even pooling our income, we barely have enough for bandages for our own men.” “I don’t care.” “If we care for the wounded of other bridge crews,” Drehy said, shaking a blond head, “we’ll have to feed them, tend them….” “I will find a way,” Kaladin said. “I—” Rock began. “Storm you!” Kaladin said, standing and sweeping his hand over the plateau. The bodies of bridgemen lay scattered, ignored. “Look at that! Who cares for them? Not Sadeas. Not their fellow bridgemen. I doubt even the Heralds themselves spare a thought for these. “I won’t stand there and watch while men die behind me. We have to be better than that! This man is one of us. Just like Dunny was.” So, no longer is Bridge Four limited to the original members. Other bridgemen stop being "them" and start getting added to Kaladin's group of "us." And it doesn't stop there: Bridge Four expands further to include, of all things, a Parsh. Quote “But this was a parshman. Gotta do what you can to stay alive…. “No,” Kaladin said. “Shen is one of us now. I don’t care what he was before. I don’t care what any of you were. We’re Bridge Four. So is he.” I think it meaningful for the future of the series that Kaladin brought a parshman into his 'us' group here. After his later return to Bridge Four, Rlain has a tough time, but Bridge Four only continues to grow as a concept and as a group. To include various random Herdazians. And women. And lighteyes. From Rlain's viewpoint: Quote “Five bridgemen launched into the air, Radiant and steaming with Light. Some of the crew trained while another group patrolled with Kaladin, checking on caravans. A third group—the ten other newcomers that had learned to draw in Stormlight—trained with Peet a few plateaus over. That group included Lyn and all four of the other scouts, along with four men from other bridge crews, and a single lighteyed officer. Colot, the archer captain.” I'm no voidbringer, but if I had to predict the future I would bet Rlain gets over his difficulty and takes to the sky himself. Lighteyes Kaladin's attitude towards lighteyes throughout the books also slowly changes. I doubt I need to point out that lighteyes are strongly in his "them" box at the beginning of the series. But near the end of WoK, we see a small shift: Quote “Us and them, he thought. That was the only way a soldier could think of it. For today, Dalinar Kholin and his men were part of the “us.” In the interest of not making this fifteen pages longer, I won't trace in detail through all of Kaladin's shifts in attitude about lighteyes, but I will point out that it is masterfully done over the course of several books: his assumption of guard and leadership duties befitting a lighteyes, his ability to fit in with either lighteyes or darkeyes by shifting his own eye color, his realization that lower dahns of lighteyes in the wall guard feel towards the upper just like darkeyes feel towards lighteyes in general, not to mention just about everything with Renarin and Adolin...all these things slowly shift his concept of the lighteyes being "them" to "us." But my main point doesn't apply to Bridge Four or lighteyes. There's another "them" that looms larger: The Parsh Quote “Above the final void I hang, friends behind, friends before. The feast I must drink clings to their faces, and the words I must speak spark in my mind. The old oaths will be spoken anew.” Again, emphasis mine. Think back on the scene that WoM* references: immediately behind Kaladin was Bridge Four. You could easily interpret this to say that friends before him were Dalinar and his troops. But what was immediately in front of Kaladin in the actual scene? Who held the stormlight in gemstones in their beards? It's the Parshendi. Wait, so they are the friends now? The actual referenced scene doesn't happen too long after Kaladin labels them "the enemy." *Word of Moelach, of course. And it doesn't stop there, though this tendency does take a break in WoR. In Oathbringer, the trend goes front and center: Quote “Kaladin took a deep breath. How to protect these people from the storm? He’d have to find shelter. He’d …I’m doing it again. I can’t do this, Syl,” Kaladin whispered. “I can’t spend time with these parshmen, see their side.” “ Storms, I shouldn’t be here. I’m starting to want to defend these people! Teach them to fight. I don’t dare—the only way I can fight the Voidbringers is to pretend there’s a difference between the ones I have to protect and the ones I have to kill.” Along these lines, I particularly like the conversations between Kaladin and Syl, regarding the shifting perspectives of right and wrong, and by inference who is right and wrong, who is "us" or "them." Quote “What?” Syl asked, alighting on his shoulder. “I can’t help but feel a kinship to them, Syl.” “They conquered the city. They’re Voidbringers.” “No, they’re people. And they’re angry, with good reason.” and Quote “And the parshmen on the Shattered Plains that I killed? Murdering them wasn’t wrong?” “You were protecting Dalinar.” “Who was assaulting their homeland.” “Because they killed his brother.” “Which, for all we know, they did because they saw how King Gavilar and his people treated the parshmen.” Kaladin turned toward Syl, who sat on his shoulder, one leg tucked beneath her. “So what’s the difference, Syl? What is the difference between Dalinar attacking the parshmen, and these parshmen conquering that city?” “I don’t know,” she said softly.” All this culminates in his inability to keep the Parshmen in his "them" box: Quote “I’ve seen war, Brightness. I’m a soldier. Problem is, Ideals have expanded my focus. I can’t help but see the common men among the enemy. They’re not monsters.” Dalinar raised a hand to stop Jasnah’s reply. and of course in his crisis and inability to continue the fight at a critical juncture, due to these changing perspectives: Quote “Kaladin saw them. All of them. Sah and the parshmen, fighting to keep their freedom. The guardsmen who had been rescued, fighting for their king. Azure’s Wall Guard, terrified as their city fell around them. The Queen’s Guard, convinced they were loyally following orders. In that moment, Kaladin lost something precious. He’d always been able to trick himself into seeing a battle as us against them. Protect those you love. Kill everyone else. But … but they didn’t deserve death. None of them did.” There we have it. Too many people in the box marked "Us." Kaladin frozen as a result. But could this tendency of his have a different effect in the end? Might he end up putting all of Roshar into the "Us" box, and in doing so ending up being the force that unites? I think there's sufficient foreshadowing going on to point that way. Of course, there are lots of pointers heading in other directions as well, and we all know to be wary of anyone who claims to be able to see the future. So this isn't really a theory. More like it's just an observation I think will become significant. I'm not going to make any real predictions about what this may mean for Kaladin (or Dalinar), as I'd rather let Brandon tell the tale. On the other hand, Kaladin does seem rather well suited to Unite Them should Dalinar...err well, follow Honor's Path. 29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZenBossanova Posted April 8, 2018 Report Share Posted April 8, 2018 DThe key values of the Windrunners are Protect and Lead. His 2nd & 3rd oath had to do with Protecting, so it only makes sense that the next two oaths will have to do with Leading. I suspect Kaladin has little idea just how much he is going to do that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yvainnie Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 (edited) It was the very first thing that I thought when I read Kaladin chapters. It is pretty obvious that for this conflict to finally get solved, I mean really solved not just postponed, there have to be some special people and Kaladin wanted to protect all those people on both sides is first step but I am very curious about how will Sanderson tell sotry like this. Will Odium be ultimate evil or even his approach about passions and people needing them will start to make sense? In therms of leading I dont think Kaladin has to be leader to be protector and peacemaker he could be outside it all. Edited April 9, 2018 by Yvainnie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyrann Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 I first thought you were going to go in the direction of Kaladin becoming a Bondsmith, and while you ended up not doing so, I'm going to drag up a very obscure WoB and go in that direction anyways: https://www.theoryland.com/intvmain.php?i=1125#26 Quote THE_ARCHDUKE Could a Knight Radiant pass their Nahel bond the way Seons can be passed in Elantris? BRANDON SANDERSON Theoretically possible and in fact has happened (!) in previous eras. Now, I don't remember exactly where it was (I think at the end of Part I where Kaladin held off the highstorm?), but at some point a number of gloryspren appear around him, and Syl "swats one [of them] away" and says "he's mine". What if, at some point, Kaladin transfers his bond with Syl to someone else (someone from Bridge Four? His brother? His father? Someone else?) and then becomes a Bondsmith, who seem to already be associated with gloryspren? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Song Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 46 minutes ago, Leyrann said: Now, I don't remember exactly where it was (I think at the end of Part I where Kaladin held off the highstorm?), but at some point a number of gloryspren appear around him, and Syl "swats one [of them] away" and says "he's mine". What if, at some point, Kaladin transfers his bond with Syl to someone else (someone from Bridge Four? His brother? His father? Someone else?) and then becomes a Bondsmith, who seem to already be associated with gloryspren? This is really interesting! Syl's reaction implies it is possible, but I can't actually imagine Kal giving up Syl or windrunning 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyrann Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Song said: This is really interesting! Syl's reaction implies it is possible, but I can't actually imagine Kal giving up Syl or windrunning I have absolutely nothing to base this on, but what if Dalinar dies and for some reason they need the Stormfather, so Kaladin decides, in the moment, to give his bond to someone else and then bonds the Stormfather? Edited April 9, 2018 by Leyrann Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yvainnie Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Leyrann said: I first thought you were going to go in the direction of Kaladin becoming a Bondsmith, and while you ended up not doing so, I'm going to drag up a very obscure WoB and go in that direction anyways: https://www.theoryland.com/intvmain.php?i=1125#26 Now, I don't remember exactly where it was (I think at the end of Part I where Kaladin held off the highstorm?), but at some point a number of gloryspren appear around him, and Syl "swats one [of them] away" and says "he's mine". What if, at some point, Kaladin transfers his bond with Syl to someone else (someone from Bridge Four? His brother? His father? Someone else?) and then becomes a Bondsmith, who seem to already be associated with gloryspren? Well I dont think that in order to unite people you have to be Bondsmith. SA series seems to be about people who are not like old KR but something new and possibly better. Some of them are starting to grow beyond KR. Also I wonder if gloryspren are actually attracted to glory, I think they have wrong name and there is more to them than just glory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormfather-in-Law Posted April 9, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Leyrann said: I first thought you were going to go in the direction of Kaladin becoming a Bondsmith, and while you ended up not doing so, I'm going to drag up a very obscure WoB and go in that direction anyways: https://www.theoryland.com/intvmain.php?i=1125#26 Now, I don't remember exactly where it was (I think at the end of Part I where Kaladin held off the highstorm?), but at some point a number of gloryspren appear around him, and Syl "swats one [of them] away" and says "he's mine". What if, at some point, Kaladin transfers his bond with Syl to someone else (someone from Bridge Four? His brother? His father? Someone else?) and then becomes a Bondsmith, who seem to already be associated with gloryspren? I was thinking along those lines. I actually had that quote but removed it from the original post as it didn't seem to fit with the flow, possibly because it points at a conclusion that is bad for Dalinar (and Syl), and I didn't want to go too far down the prediction road. It was: Quote Gloryspren burst up about Kaladin’s head. Syl took on the form of a person just so she could glower at the little bobbing balls of light. “Mine,” she said, swatting one of them aside. The WoB you added certainly adds spice to it. Foreshadowing? One of those things we look back on later and say "Aha! It was here all along!"? Edited April 9, 2018 by Stormfather-in-Law added Syl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyrann Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Stormfather-in-Law said: Foreshadowing? One of those things we look back on later and say "Aha! It was here all along!"? That's what I'm kind of thinking. We don't see Syl get protective like that anywhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hufdud Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 I don’t have the WoB on hand but I remember there being one that it is technically possible for someone to bond two spren at once. What if, rather than Kaladin passing on his bond to Syl, Dalinars bond to the Stormfather gets passed to Kaladin and our favourite flying Bridgeboy becomes the true master of the sky and storms? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyrann Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Hufdud said: I don’t have the WoB on hand but I remember there being one that it is technically possible for someone to bond two spren at once. What if, rather than Kaladin passing on his bond to Syl, Dalinars bond to the Stormfather gets passed to Kaladin and our favourite flying Bridgeboy becomes the true master of the sky and storms? Good one. https://wob.coppermind.net/events/156-words-of-radiance-lexington-signing/#e2841 Quote tganchero (paraphrased) Is it true that humans can bond to multiple spren? Brandon Sanderson (paraphrased) They can theoretically bond to multiple spren. This is now my new favorite theory. Dalinar will give the bond to the Stormfather to Kaladin at some point, and he gets access to three Surges instead of the usual 2, and maybe even something extra for Adhesion? Also: Remember how Kaladin rode the storm and, as far as I am aware, is the only one other than Dalinar who has talked to the Stormfather (except when the Stormfather was speaking to Dalinar and others at once, like at Dalinar and Navani's marriage) Edited April 9, 2018 by Leyrann 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yezrien Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 It's an interesting theory, but I'm content to think that Dalinar will Unite them, and then Kaladin will Protect them. But if Kaladin must bond the Stormfather, I think it should be instead of Syl, not in addition to her. I can see a super dramatic scenario where Dalinar and Syl both end up dead, leaving Kaladin and the Stormfather free to bond each other. Maybe Kaladin will be responsible for Syl's death, and Stormfather will hate him for it, but he'll honor Dalinar's memory by choosing forgiveness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yvainnie Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Belzedar said: It's an interesting theory, but I'm content to think that Dalinar will Unite them, and then Kaladin will Protect them. But if Kaladin must bond the Stormfather, I think it should be instead of Syl, not in addition to her. I can see a super dramatic scenario where Dalinar and Syl both end up dead, leaving Kaladin and the Stormfather free to bond each other. Maybe Kaladin will be responsible for Syl's death, and Stormfather will hate him for it, but he'll honor Dalinar's memory by choosing forgiveness. I think that if anything then this makes much more sense but still why built whole "I protect" thing just to have him abandon it for uniting which is clearly meant for Dalinar and Dalinar has some amazing development which would all be pointless. Also I think that for Kaladin to be responsible for Syl death it could only be reversible death like when he did not protect Elhokar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vissy Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 If Syl dies, I'll stop reading SA probably. I don't think it makes much sense for Kaladin to become a Bondsmith. You can only have three, and Kaladin is already a Windrunner. His way of dealing with that dilemma of us and them is not inherently magical, but a normal personal struggle. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypatia Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 (edited) Perhaps this is a possibility - after I finally understood the chart with the orders -more or less - there was one point that facinated me, this point in the middle where every order is connected. Looking with "misted" eyes then Spoiler the orders would be akin to the Mistings and the point in the middle the place for a full Mistborn. Also what Evi told about the One - the Nightwatcher is its/her avatar. The middle-point is possibly the Cultivation-point. I'm not sure if Kaladin is able to bond more spren, but I believe Edgedancer was another possibility for him without Roshone and he heals and remembers all-the-time. Edited April 9, 2018 by hypatia 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtafa Posted April 10, 2018 Report Share Posted April 10, 2018 I think the harder part would be adhering to the multiple oaths and ideals. Following one could interrupt another. A high chance of killing one of your Spren 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyrann Posted April 10, 2018 Report Share Posted April 10, 2018 10 hours ago, hypatia said: Perhaps this is a possibility - after I finally understood the chart with the orders -more or less - there was one point that facinated me, this point in the middle where every order is connected. Looking with "misted" eyes then Hide contents the orders would be akin to the Mistings and the point in the middle the place for a full Mistborn. Also what Evi told about the One - the Nightwatcher is its/her avatar. The middle-point is possibly the Cultivation-point. I'm not sure if Kaladin is able to bond more spren, but I believe Edgedancer was another possibility for him without Roshone and he heals and remembers all-the-time. Are you proposing some kind of catch 'em all with spren? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypatia Posted April 10, 2018 Report Share Posted April 10, 2018 No, just 'unite them'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LerasiumMistborn Posted April 10, 2018 Report Share Posted April 10, 2018 Kaladin as a Bondsmith just doesn't make any sense. He's a Windrunner and we saw his progression as a Windrunner since book one.He has two more ideals to swear and we have only two books in this story arc.Trying something else is madness. Same for Dalinar. "Unite them"-thing is his story arc since WoK.Even the very first chapter where he appears called "Unity". Is it cool to take very personal story from the character and give it to another one, who has nothing to do with it?No, this is worst scenario ever.And in that case, why Dalinar's character even exists in the books?Brandon could gave Stormfather to Kaladin in the beginning of the story and didn't bother himself to write Dalinar.Why writing huge book about Dalinar's relationships with Stormfather, if in the end it does not play any role? It's a nonsense. So no, this won't happen.Dalinar has his own story arc and his own spren, kaladin has his own story and spren.They both should progress in their own Order. And I have to admit, in WoK Dalinar thought same things about parshendies.Does his task to "unite them" includes parshendies or not. As for bonding multiple sprens.Venli has both voidspren and Timbre. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypatia Posted April 10, 2018 Report Share Posted April 10, 2018 I don't really think this will be a theme for the first arc, but even without war and having a target painted on his back, Dalinar will age. His story centers much more the past then the future. As for Kaladin - I'm not sure he'll be the "one", but his conflicts are , as I see it, already increased because he could fit in different orders. This thinking of "us" and "them" was learned in the army and should be more the problem of a Stoneward. He heals everyone and remembers all he has lost on his way - people we would forget without Kaladin thinking about them every time in a crisis - his old comrades, Cenn, Dunny.... He has already united people within the bridgecrews. He discusses with Szeth about justice. All in all - it is harder for him and nit just because of his depressions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyrann Posted April 10, 2018 Report Share Posted April 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, hypatia said: I don't really think this will be a theme for the first arc, but even without war and having a target painted on his back, Dalinar will age. His story centers much more the past then the future. This is an important part in my opinion. If Kaladin will bond a second spren or something like that, I don't think it will happen in the first arc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypatia Posted April 10, 2018 Report Share Posted April 10, 2018 (edited) Really, I don't believe Kaladin will be the one bonding more than one spren. For me this observations have perhaps to do with his 4. oath - he will have to decide, to get rid of the influences that are in conflict with his order. As a Windrunner he's a fighter, but not a soldier. He doesn't need "us" or "them", just the people who can't defend themselves. He has learned to heal with conventional methods, but he don't have Edgedancer-abilities and so on. Like he said - he WAS a surgeon, a soldier, a slave - but now he should concentrate on being a Windrunner. I believe the moment he"ll speak the next oath, his slavebrand will be gone. He has to expand his own abilities and learn to share the problems of the world with his fellow radiants - he must trust their abilities. The other problem I see with "us" and "them" - he was always told whom he shall see as "them", he tricks himself in looking at the situation this way. What leads him in Kholinar to forget the one person in the room who is in fact his responsibility - Gavinor. For a moment I nearly was in panic - this could have killed Syl if he had consciously decided like with Elhokar's assassination. Edited April 10, 2018 by hypatia 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solant Posted April 10, 2018 Report Share Posted April 10, 2018 (edited) I don't really see Kaladin bonding another spren. This is entirely speculation on my part, but I feel that his arc, at least for the front half, will be mainly about him coming to terms with his depression and survivors guilt over the deaths of so many friends and allies as he grows to accept his responsibilities as a leader (as opposed to THE leader) within the ranks of the reformed KR. I'm on mobile so I don't have links, but I feel like it was implied that the idea for Dalinar was the root of what evolved into the story for the SA. Now that we have a deeper dig into his past in OB, I believe that at the core of the front half at least, this is the story of his gradual ascension from ruthless monster to godhood. As far as what that means for the Bondsmiths, we will have to wait and see. I do think that if that job fell to Kaladin, it would keep him at the front of the narrative, and we know that our front half main protagonists are going to have lesser roles in the back half. I guess my point is that I believe that if we started swapping spren around with either of them, it would throw thier character progression out of the window and would likely feel very unsatisfying to read. Again, this is just me speculating. Edited April 10, 2018 by Solant Typos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormfather-in-Law Posted April 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2018 On 4/9/2018 at 3:30 PM, Vissy said: If Syl dies, I'll stop reading SA probably. I don't think it makes much sense for Kaladin to become a Bondsmith. You can only have three, and Kaladin is already a Windrunner. I agree Syl dying would be a tragedy, and I don't think Brandon would do that. Though I think I read somewhere that he admired George R.R. Martin's method of killing off important characters, I don't think he'll do that. However, as several people pointed out, Syl dying is only one speculative way this could come to pass. I think passing the bond would be more likely. Quote His way of dealing with that dilemma of us and them is not inherently magical, but a normal personal struggle. This rings true to me, but at the same time, Kaladin's personal struggles have a strong effect on magic through his bond with Syl. Not just in the way his adherence to oaths affects her and affects his personal power. The whole squire concept means that people in that Kaladin consider "Us" gain magical abilities. I don't think you can separate them that easily. The whole episode with Kaladin's squires was really the genesis of my post. That members of Bridge Four, who shared in Kaladin's personal struggle through great hardship together, would become his squires makes total sense. But when people started getting added to the mix that never experienced any of that, I started wondering where the limits were. Does Kaladin identifying with them make them his squires, or does their feeling of inclusion in Kaladin's group make it happen? I really don't know; probably both. But I did start paying more attention to Kal's relationship with Bridge Four and their collective sense of identity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vissy Posted April 11, 2018 Report Share Posted April 11, 2018 Unity is not his MO though. Kaladin doesn't seek to unite, he seeks to protect people and actively also seeks to lead them. He's asserting himself into positions of power and authority very strongly. And besides, I don't believe for a second that Syl would ever willingly "pass on the bond". She's like a soulmate to Kaladin at this point, literally actually. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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