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[OB] Felt and the nightwatcher.

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I wonder if he's using Connection in some way. Either a medallion (could you recharge one of those by leaving it out in a storm?) or some Silverlight tech.

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He could be using medallion technology, since we know that southern Scadrians have a respectable offworld presence (Iyatil is descended from a group that migrated to Silverlight) and they might have brought some of their technology with them. I'm assuming the migration happened after the Sovereign gave them the means to make the medallions since both of Scadrial's pre-Catacendre Perpendicularities were located in the northern hemisphere. Alternatively, he learned the local language the old-fashioned way which is why he lacks the speech oddities that Vasher and Vivenna sometimes let slip. Brandon has been pretty consistent in the idea that magical translation is much more likely to result in these slips, though experience with the magic is another factor. Fairly detailed WoB here.

17 hours ago, Rogueshar said:

Maybe, but he never left a distinct impression on me, Scadrians don't use color in language like the Nalthans do so that makes it harder to pick them out when they are world hopping.

A Scadrian worldhopper would probably distinguish themselves with odd references to metal. We see expressions in Era 2 like 'a bad alloy' where we might call someone a 'bad apple' on Earth for example, not to mention the everpresent interjection of 'Rust!' as a curse. That sort of thing could give away a Scadrian who's using Connection to speak the local language and trying to force through something in their native tongue that doesn't fit the local lingo.

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12 minutes ago, Weltall said:

A Scadrian worldhopper would probably distinguish themselves with odd references to metal. We see expressions in Era 2 like 'a bad alloy' where we might call someone a 'bad apple' on Earth for example, not to mention the everpresent interjection of 'Rust!' as a curse. That sort of thing could give away a Scadrian who's using Connection to speak the local language and trying to force through something in their native tongue that doesn't fit the local lingo.

True. And I think if someone said a bad alloy on Roshar I would pick that up pretty quickly. Or if someone mentioned coins. 

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13 minutes ago, Weltall said:

He could be using medallion technology, since we know that southern Scadrians have a respectable offworld presence (Iyatil is descended from a group that migrated to Silverlight) and they might have brought some of their technology with them. I'm assuming the migration happened after the Sovereign gave them the means to make the medallions since both of Scadrial's pre-Catacendre Perpendicularities were located in the northern hemisphere. Alternatively, he learned the local language the old-fashioned way which is why he lacks the speech oddities that Vasher and Vivenna sometimes let slip. Brandon has been pretty consistent in the idea that magical translation is much more likely to result in these slips, though experience with the magic is another factor. Fairly detailed WoB here.

A Scadrian worldhopper would probably distinguish themselves with odd references to metal. We see expressions in Era 2 like 'a bad alloy' where we might call someone a 'bad apple' on Earth for example, not to mention the everpresent interjection of 'Rust!' as a curse. That sort of thing could give away a Scadrian who's using Connection to speak the local language and trying to force through something in their native tongue that doesn't fit the local lingo.

This is why I'm suspicious of Rust Elthal.

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What if Felt is a member of the Ghostbloods? He is a worldhopper, he is a scout with close access to the Kholins and therefore interesting information, he seems capable of blending in easily and gaining the trust of people and have no-one questioning his presence. What if this is how he should stand out? By making us wonder if he is a member of a secret society?

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That's true too. Miraze would likely want as many eyes and ears on the Kohlins as possible. I wouldn't be surprised if he was a Ghostblood. Quick question are there any other worldhopping secret societies that we are aware of besides the Ghostbloods?

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The in-world 17th Shard.  Hoid mentions them in his Letter.

The Ire

Silverlight

That's all I can remember right now.

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I thought Silverlight was a place not an organization, is it both? I knew about 17th Shard, but I'm not as familiar with the Ire. That was in Secret History wasn't it? 

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Silverlight's a place rather than a secret society per se and we know that people born there can be part of other groups (Iyatil is a Ghostblood and used to be part of the Seventeenth Shard) so even as a place of origin it doesn't establish anyone as being part of a monolithic group, though by default it makes you one of the more Cosmere-aware people out there. Oh, to have a couple hours to walk around the place...

Anyhow, if we're thinking of Silverlight generally then we could probably mention more specifically the arcanists who study Investiture and the scholars of history, religion etc. who Khriss mentions as knowing more about various aspects of lore than she. It's unlikely Khriss is the only scholar to do field research (she does mention multiple failed expeditions to First of the Sun) so there should be others out there. By that token we could also count the Ones Above as a worldhopping group, though they do it with FTL rather than the usual use of Perpendicularities. And... do Bavadin's many personas count as a 'society'?

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True.  I was thinking of the University that Khriss is part of, I think.

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