Popular Post Knitwitz Posted March 9, 2014 Popular Post Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 (edited) Hey everyone, I just figured you all might like to know about what I learned today at Brandon's Seattle book signing. I took my notepad in when asking Brandon a question and he confirmed that Order #5 is the Truthwatchers, Order #8 is the Willshapers, Order #10 is the Bondsmiths. Turns out I had Cohesion and Tension backwards on the chart I showed him, so I corrected the surges at his instruction in the diagram below (I used a note-taking app to record all of this so I apologize if my handwriting is hard to read XD I'd be happy to explain or translate if anything is particularly illegible ) Edited March 9, 2014 by Knitwitz 42 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeiryWriter Posted March 9, 2014 Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 Ooh thanks for this, now I can update my annotated chart! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knitwitz Posted March 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 Np I tried to ask less direct questions that could be used to determine where each was located (like which herald lead the Truthcallers) in the overall Q&A and got RAFO-d big time. However, when I actually went up and talked to him while he was signing he looked over my chart personally to see if it was all correct, I was so excited and couldn't wait to share :3 I also asked about healing something like eyesight and whether that would require Regrowth or if it was just the result of holding Stormlight and he said it would all depend on how the person envisioned himself. (This was before he looked at the chart and I was still trying to find clever ways to confirm that the Truthcallers had Regrowth ) 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamHeretic Posted March 9, 2014 Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 Nice work! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeiryWriter Posted March 9, 2014 Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 (edited) Okay here is my annotated chart: But seriously Knitwitz should get ALL THE UPVOTES!!! This is just fantastic. Edited July 2, 2016 by WeiryWriter fixed image Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurkistan Posted March 9, 2014 Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 (edited) Np I tried to ask less direct questions that could be used to determine where each was located (like which herald lead the Truthcallers) in the overall Q&A and got RAFO-d big time. However, when I actually went up and talked to him while he was signing he looked over my chart personally to see if it was all correct, I was so excited and couldn't wait to share :3 I also asked about healing something like eyesight and whether that would require Regrowth or if it was just the result of holding Stormlight and he said it would all depend on how the person envisioned himself. (This was before he looked at the chart and I was still trying to find clever ways to confirm that the Truthcallers had Regrowth ) THANK YOU. Have Rep. WoR SPOILERS That particular question has been driving me subtly insane for the last few days. So I guess both Lopen and Renarin are just really really stubborn about how they "should be". Edited March 9, 2014 by Kurkistan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjl Posted March 9, 2014 Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 (edited) Kurkistan: we're not in the WOR spoiler board... In answer to your comment though: WOR spoiler Per above chart Renarin at least has growth/progression, (same surge) so may have used regrowth on his eyes Edited March 9, 2014 by rjl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurkistan Posted March 9, 2014 Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 Quite right. Spoiled now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knitwitz Posted March 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 (edited) Oh! I almost forgot, in the conversation with Brandon, when he mentioned that I had Cohesion and Tension backwards he said that Cohesion involved being able to alter things at a molecular level, and his example was that you could push your hand on a table, and when you removed your hand there would still be a handprint. (Though it is altogether possible that I didn't fully understand his example, I was a tad overwhelmed at the time :3) He pointed this out because he said he was sure Willshapers had access to Cohesion which is how he knew I had them backwards. It can't be easy to keep all of that in your head hahahaha Edited March 9, 2014 by Knitwitz 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moogle Posted March 9, 2014 Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 Oh! I almost forgot, in the conversation with Brandon, when he mentioned that I had Cohesion and Tension backwards he said that Cohesion involved being able to alter things at a molecular level, and his example was that you could push your hand on a table, and when you removed your hand there would still be a handprint. (Though it is altogether possible that I didn't fully understand his example, I was a tad overwhelmed at the time :3) This is pretty much exactly what I thought the Surge would do. It's awesome to get some confirmation on what the Willshapers could do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quazar87 Posted March 9, 2014 Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 Excellent job with the confirmation. That means the Surge listing in the Ars Arcanum is definitely in order. Now I don't have to change the Excel sheet I made documenting the Rule of 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aheerema Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 (edited) [Edit: Nice job on the notes on the chart! Thanks for you work!] ...he said that Cohesion involved being able to alter things at a molecular level, and his example was that you could push your hand on a table, and when you removed your hand there would still be a handprint.... This sounds like a bit of an overlap with the "tensors" that were used in Steelheart, I wonder if we can guess at some of cohesion's uses based on that... Minor Steelheart spoilers: As I recall, the tensor devices could cut perfectly into anything in the way a saw cuts (or perhaps a router or shaper would be a better analogue) and leaves sawdust, as contrasted to how a knife cuts by dividing. So the tensors would leave the dust of the material it cut into, of similar volume as the shape that was cut. Alternatively... Brandon seems to like going to the molecular level... when we see a shardblade cut through an inorganic (or spiritually dead) object, perhaps the actual affect we see is the bonds between molecules being severed, the actual crystal lattice of the object divided in two along the cut. When we see Cohesion being used, perhaps the spaces within molecules are reduced. (inducing all sorts of internal stresses that we'll forgive since we're in the same breath considering something that has the power to induce these changes.) So cohesion actually changes the internal level of attraction of molecules within an object that allows them to be compressed or manipulated... not actually losing any of the materials or molecules, instead just packing them closer together in the shape that is desired. Edited March 19, 2014 by aheerema 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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