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As far as the two women I have no idea. 

The two soldiers were, in my opinion, Amaram and Restares. The old man in robes was Taravangian, as that is how he's always been attired. 

Taravangian was introduced to many of the ideas of the Sons of Honor, and much of this is what drive him to seek the Nightwatcher. Whether he was a member, or was being introduced and invited is unclear, but at least once the Diagram was written, he considered them to be fools. 

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Obviously they are fools The Desolation needs no usher It can and will sit where it wishes and the signs are obvious that the spren anticipate it doing so soon The Ancient of Stones must finally begin to crack It is a wonder that upon his will rested the prosperity and peace of a world for over four millennia

That section of the Diagram is referring to the Sons of Honor as fools for attempting to bring about a desolation in the first place. 

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The only thing that confuses me about Gavilar is how nonchalent he was when offering the sphere to Eshonai, it just made no sense from our perspective, there must be something we're missing which we'd likely get from his pov in a coming prologue.

Before reading that i always assumed that he was smart enough to use the other fanatical morons in the organisation to carefuly plan and kickstart a containable crisis (the parshendi rampage with new forms of power) which he would use to forcefuly unite part of Roshar in preparation for the impending desolation.

He had the visions so he knew it was coming regardless of what they did, this leads me to believe that the rest of the Sons (the ones the Diagram would be refering to) were unaware of the real gambit and the extent of his knowledge.

Can't wait to know more about the guy, still have hope for him having had a ruthlessly effective plan before Szeth happened.

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10 hours ago, Wit Beyond Measure said:

Yet again, we see the same ruthless, Machiavellian nature in Aesudan as we do in Gavilar, Amaram, Torol, Ialai, and Taravangian.  They all fit beautifully together.

I'm with you on everybody except Torol Sadeas. We have too many PoVs from him where he doesn't take the possibility of an oncoming Desolation seriously.

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I doubt that Torol or Ialai were involved. Remember: the Sons of Honor are deeply religious. Amaram and Gavilar are known to be devout Vorin followers. Aesudan worried a lot about the Almighty before her fateful encounter with Yelig-Nar. Restares is presumed by many to be an official within the Vorin Church (there is an interesting theory about Aesudan being his daughter). The Sadeases aren't religious at all. Mraize also doubts that they are part of a secret society, and he seems to know the Sons of Honor quite well. 

Personally, I think the last woman could be a Herald in disguise. Vedel and Chana are uncounted for. 

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I bet he sons of honor have amassed a lot of lore and relics, that they don't realise the true value of. If they don't realise what they have, it could mean odium not realizing what they have. If they are part of the Vorin church, I bet they have a stash of material that escaped the huge purge and edit of history.

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On 25.12.2017 at 7:17 PM, Wit Beyond Measure said:

Yet again, we see the same ruthless, Machiavellian nature in Aesudan as we do in Gavilar, Amaram, Torol, Ialai, and Taravangian.  They all fit beautifully together.

There is some strong evidence pointing towards Gavilar`s machiavellian nature changing in the last few years of his life. He began reading the Way of Kings, Sadeas said he was getting "weak", Jasnah reconnected to her father in these last years.

He started to get visions. I think the Stormfather bestowes them according to Honor`s instructions only to those, who are somewhat worthy of them. 

This is probably the reason why Gavilar thought Restares, a fellow Son of Honor, intended to murder him. He was deviating from the true path of the Sons of Honor. He couldn`t do what "needed to be done". Maybe there was an argument between Restares and Gavilar prior to that fateful night?

My guess on the identity of Restares is him being in some high up position of the Vorin church. Their religiosity is what ties Gavilar, Amaram and Aesuadan together and them wanting to restore the classical strength of the church. It only makes sense if a powerful Ardent would be involved in their group, maybe even leading them after Gavilar died.

It is very likely that Restares will be a major villain in the next books. Maybe he will use the power of the vorin church to scheme with Ialai Sadeas against House Kholin. Dalinar`s hereticism already enraged the Ardentia aganist him. They will only need a little push... 

         

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4 hours ago, Diomedes said:

There is some strong evidence pointing towards Gavilar`s machiavellian nature changing in the last few years of his life. He began reading the Way of Kings, Sadeas said he was getting "weak", Jasnah reconnected to her father in these last years.

It does seem so, huh? But what about what he was saying to Eshonai the night of his murder? He was fairly machivellian there.

Not to say i disagree with your other evidence though, I think he was having doubts but was still committed.

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Restares is the oe of the reasons as to why I wish Amaram was still alive. I was picturing the Sons of Honor as antagonistic Vorin crusaders. I wonder how Restares can fit into the coming books though. Either he would be an antagonist attemoting to take Dalinars spot as the defender of Roshar, or he’ll join forces with him, for the good of Roshar. 

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The high king or whatever Dalinar's title is a heretic and the Queen of the Alethi is a heretic, I kinda doubt the church is going to forgive that. 

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