grinachu Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 On twitter someone tweeted Peter if the first word was "Hold" and Peter confirmed it was. So does that help? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aminar Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 (edited) On twitter someone tweeted Peter if the first word was "Hold" and Peter confirmed it was. So does that help? This basically confirms the 10 11 12 is The theory. Then I think singular 1's are O, 8 L and 25 is D With 14 as A it looks a little like this. H o l d THE 7 E 4 9 15 E T T H A T 21 5 1 17 1 H THE 17 1 3 4 4 L 3 H T 7 15 A D 4 A 3 4 T 9 16 A 9 A 9 3 4 E E D 4 T T E 5 E 7 T 15 19 T H E 3 4 E 5 5 H 5 D E 15 7 5 5 H E 3 4 T H E 9 15 E T 6 15 3 4 Edited March 12, 2014 by Aminar 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterAhlstrom Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 AhbuttheywereleftbehindItisobvious fromthenatureofthebondButwhere wherewherewhereSetoffObvious RealizationlikeapricityTheyarewiththe ShinWemustfindoneCanwemaketousea TruthlessCanwecraftaweapon The spaces only exist in the old e-ink Kindle version, so the lines will break. The spaces aren't official. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryshadium Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 E 5 5 H looks like an interesting spot. Only so many double letters out there The most common are: ss ee tt ff ll mm oo It's not O, T, E, or L That leaves 5 as S, F, or M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luminos Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 Look at the first pattern and see how, say, the 11th letter and 25th letter of it fits the code... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryshadium Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 (edited) O b v i o u s l y t h e y are fools The Desolation needs no usher It can and will sit where it wishes and the signs are obvious that the spren anticipate it doing so soon The Ancient of Stones must finally begin to crack It is a wonder that upon his will rested the prosperity and peace of a world for over four millennia Sanderson, Brandon (2014-03-04). Words of Radiance (Stormlight Archive, The) (p. 998). Tom Doherty Associates. Kindle Edition. The 11th letter is H. And the first is O, which works with 1 = O, H = 11. That being said, there's another O before letter 6, do I skip it? otherwise H = 11 doesn't work O = 1 B = 2 V = 3 I = 4 O = 1 U = 6? S = 7 L = 8 Y= 9 T = 10 H = 11 E = 12 Y = 9 A = 13 R = 14 E = 12 F = 15? is this making any sense Edited March 12, 2014 by Ryshadium 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aminar Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 Not only that but 10 11 and 12 are O b v i o u s l y t h e y are fools The Desolation needs no usher It can and will sit where it wishes and the signs are obvious that the spren anticipate it doing so soon The Ancient of Stones must finally begin to crack It is a wonder that upon his will rested the prosperity and peace of a world for over four millennia Sanderson, Brandon (2014-03-04). Words of Radiance (Stormlight Archive, The) (p. 998). Tom Doherty Associates. Kindle Edition. The 11th letter is H. Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 281018368 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 341629232 bytes) in Unknown on line 0Not just that but 100 11 12 is The. SOLVING NOPW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luminos Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 The key is to take the first instance of each letter in the first pattern and assign that number to that letter. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryshadium Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 N = 34 W = 55 C = 49 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Darmad Posted March 12, 2014 Popular Post Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 Completed code. Got lots of help reading everyone's ideas. Hold the secret that broke the Knights Radiant. You may need it to destroy the new orders when they return. 131 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aminar Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 So far I have Hold the Sieve that... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryshadium Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 Well, I am happy to have been a part of this in some way. Well done to all of you out there who are way better at this than I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satsuoni Posted March 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 Obviously, I am a fool unable to write even a simple brute solver Depressed. Nice work, Darmad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryshadium Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 So, what's the secret? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PeterAhlstrom Posted March 12, 2014 Popular Post Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 You guys almost figured it out on the first day, because we made it too easy. Sigh. 27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asha'man Logain Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 Well done, You are all much smarter than I. I stand in awe of your code breaking prowess. I love the teamwork here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryshadium Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 The easy solution is sometimes way too complex for the over thinkers of the world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis1984 Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 Great job everyone...I had solved to That before I saw the full code posted... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aminar Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 Completed code. Got lots of help reading everyone's ideas. Hold the secret that broke the Knights Radiant. You may need it to destroy the new orders when they return. You amazing Awesome something something uncouth but meant with a term of respect. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aminar Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 You guys almost figured it out on the first day, because we made it too easy. Sigh. I've had a good chunk of the code solved on my computer since then. ARGH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luminos Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 So, what's the secret? Go to the chapter 83 epigraph. Record the first instance each letter of the alphabet occurs in that epigraph with the number of where it first occurs. Then use this to substitute out the numbers in the code. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryshadium Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 I had this sitting on my computer screen, and it started becoming a jumble of nonsense because I had done various substitutions and couldn't remember what went where anymore: HOLD THE SECR E T THAT B R O 7 1 12 THE 1713 44G11 T 715142541434 T 916149149341212254 TT 125 127 T 1519 T 1112NEW1152512157W111234T111291512 T 61534 Thanks to Darmad for saving me from certain insanity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryshadium Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 Go to the chapter 83 epigraph. Record the first instance each letter of the alphabet occurs in that epigraph with the number of where it first occurs. Then use this to substitute out the numbers in the code. Yes, that part I understand. I was referring to the secret referred to in the message itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darmad Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 I had lots of help. I spent 2 days just reading everything collected here! I usually lurk, but this group inspired me to join in. The idea came to me as I was falling asleep last night. I suggested it this morning and then ran with it. I tweeted Peter to confirm, but was trying to avoid giving away too much, so that other people could keep working it if they wanted. Apparently, giving away the first word was too much! 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aminar Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 Well, you gave away the 1st, second, fourth, and a bunch of other The's... That's quite a bit more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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