Aon Ati Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 I have been wondering for a while what kind of effect Allomantic Chromium and Nicrocil would have on other forms of Investiture. I have found on the Coppermind that if a Leecher is touching a shardbearer and they burn their metal, then the shardbearer can't summon his or her shardblade. So these metals can work on other magics but now I want to know more. Is there any information out their that I missed, or theories that I can read? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsdaughter613 Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 It seems to work on some Shade based weaponry from Threnody. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weltall Posted December 25, 2017 Report Share Posted December 25, 2017 I asked Brandon this a couple years ago vis a vis a Leecher versus Breath and got RAFO'd. But since then we got the BoM broadsheet which, taken more or less at face value, implies that A-Chromium definitely works on some other forms of Investiture. Not that we know exactly how Nazh's 'Shadegun' works of course. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The One Who Connects Posted December 25, 2017 Report Share Posted December 25, 2017 Chromium is to other people what Aluminum is to yourself. Aluminum works on everything, everywhere in the Cosmere. It stands to reason that Chromium should too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supreme King Z-arc Posted December 25, 2017 Report Share Posted December 25, 2017 Well if you had a way to tap nicrocil with surging could you substitute it for stormlight? Or what about breaths? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yata Posted December 25, 2017 Report Share Posted December 25, 2017 3 hours ago, The One Who Connects said: Chromium is to other people what Aluminum is to yourself. Aluminum works on everything, everywhere in the Cosmere. It stands to reason that Chromium should too. Do we have some statement about those and Breath? Because yesterday I was arguing on the matter and everyone were aganist me in that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The One Who Connects Posted December 25, 2017 Report Share Posted December 25, 2017 12 hours ago, Yata said: Do we have some statement about those and Breath? Because yesterday I was arguing on the matter and everyone were aganist me in that There's this: Quote Questioner If an Allomancer found themselves on Nalthis or Roshar, would they be able to use chromium on someone using Stormlight or Breath? Brandon Sanderson I am staying away from answering too many questions like that until I start having it happen. But do know that the magics interact... some ways they interact very naturally, some ways, they don’t. One way I’ve released is, you could use bronze on most forms of Investiture to find it. So you can extrapolate that some of these things would work. But not necessarily all. All of them could be made to work. It's that final sentence that's making me think so, but I'm not sure what sort of hack would be required. 13 hours ago, Skip Hates Dragons said: Well if you had a way to tap nicrocil with surging could you substitute it for stormlight? Or what about breaths? Have this: Quote Question Could Feruchemical Nicrosil be used to store other invested abilities, such as a Returned breath or the abilities of the Knights Radiant? Brandon Sanderson Yes, that's possible 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yata Posted December 25, 2017 Report Share Posted December 25, 2017 @The One Who Connects thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsdaughter613 Posted December 25, 2017 Report Share Posted December 25, 2017 So... a Nicrosil compounder could theoretically have an unlimited supply of breath? That clearly needs to be followed up on. Because a certain someone would totally abuse that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supreme King Z-arc Posted December 25, 2017 Report Share Posted December 25, 2017 I think it would have to match So a nicrocil Ferrinng could store breath or stormlight in nicrocil. So a twin nicrocil surgebinder could have unlimited stormlight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weltall Posted December 26, 2017 Report Share Posted December 26, 2017 @The One Who Connects That was my WoB and my first RAFO. xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aon Ati Posted December 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2017 If a Chromium can stop a shardblade from being summoned, then I really want a scene in a future book where the shardholder tries to summon their blade and starts to freak out when nothing happens. Depending on the situation this could be a really humorous scene or make all the readers shake with worry for the character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yata Posted December 27, 2017 Report Share Posted December 27, 2017 11 hours ago, Aon Ati said: If a Chromium can stop a shardblade from being summoned, then I really want a scene in a future book where the shardholder tries to summon their blade and starts to freak out when nothing happens. Depending on the situation this could be a really humorous scene or make all the readers shake with worry for the character. Well it isn't something that could really happen. Chromium burns fast and the Leecher need to keep the contact with the Shardbearer AND burning Chromium to stop the summon. It's already an impratical and unlikely scenario and it mostly will stop the shardbearer for some seconds no more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supreme King Z-arc Posted December 27, 2017 Report Share Posted December 27, 2017 Not if your using ettmetal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yata Posted December 27, 2017 Report Share Posted December 27, 2017 58 minutes ago, Skip Hates Dragons said: Not if your using ettmetal How the ettmetal will change that ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supreme King Z-arc Posted December 27, 2017 Report Share Posted December 27, 2017 Because in bands of mourning th cube did not touch wax and if you had a trap set up with enough ettmetal it could be a serious ambush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yata Posted December 27, 2017 Report Share Posted December 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, Skip Hates Dragons said: Because in bands of mourning th cube did not touch wax and if you had a trap set up with enough ettmetal it could be a serious ambush The Cube touched Wax, It was launched aganist him for that specific purpose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supreme King Z-arc Posted December 27, 2017 Report Share Posted December 27, 2017 Quote Something bounced down the hallway and came to a rest on the floor beside Wax, just outside the doorway in wich he crouched. A small metal cube. He jumped back, fearing an explosive, but nothing happened. What had that been? -bands of mourning ch. 7 page 128 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsdaughter613 Posted December 27, 2017 Report Share Posted December 27, 2017 Then it’s way more useful, since it will probably drain any nearby spheres too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quickbronze Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 I doubt that Nicrosil could store stormlight. It stores Innate Investiture(The ability to bind surges, the ability to burn metals) rather then Kinetic Investiture(The manipulation of gravity, the effect of pushing a metal), and as far as I can tell, Stormlight is definitely Kinetic Investiture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yata Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 On 27/12/2017 at 10:04 PM, Kingsdaughter613 said: Then it’s way more useful, since it will probably drain any nearby spheres too. It's a bit weird but probably spheres Will be' untouched. They are quite High Invested and they resist a bit Chromium. Chromium burns also quite fast to probably the...Leecher Pulse will not be' able to affect them too much, as It not drain Wax's Metalminds (as far as I could remember) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The One Who Connects Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 14 hours ago, .50 Caliber Gentleman said: I doubt that Nicrosil could store stormlight. It stores Innate Investiture(The ability to bind surges, the ability to burn metals) rather then Kinetic Investiture(The manipulation of gravity, the effect of pushing a metal), and as far as I can tell, Stormlight is definitely Kinetic Investiture. Quote shoeties Since Stormlight and Breath are both investiture, would it be possible to use Nightblood with the former rather than the latter? Would it be possible to store Stormlight in metal using Feruchemy? Brandon Sanderson Mixing the magics is possible, but some are easier and more natural than other. Feeding Stormlight to Nightblood is easy. Storing stormlight in metal is tough. Source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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