Supreme King Z-arc

do the weaknesses still exist? (calamity spoilers)

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If the fears that were the weakness created/fueled by calamity would the weaknesses still exist after calamity left? 

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I think they still do exist but they're not as effective as they were before. Edmund faced his and separated himself from the darkness and his weakness didn't have as bad of an effect. It only dampened the powers. So it's possible the same can be said for the other Epics that aren't under Calamity's influence.

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That would make sense for epics who already had those fears before calamity came, but what about those without major fears? Most people don't have one major thing they fear.

Would they have a weakness in firefight's world? The weakness came from calamity staying and on that world calamity left

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Skip Hates Dragons This thread should have a spoiler tag on it since it mentions Calamity. Or just an edit to make mentions of Calamity covered by a spoiler box.

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I think that since Calamity left, the fear he ingrained into the Epics will slowly dissipate (unless you're crazy like Obliteration). That said, all power comes at a cost, and it would be a violation of Sanderson's Second Law to give characters unchecked abilities. 

 

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On 12/28/2017 at 1:24 PM, Archer said:

Skip Hates Dragons This thread should have a spoiler tag on it since it mentions Calamity. Or just an edit to make mentions of Calamity covered by a spoiler box.

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I think that since Calamity left, the fear he ingrained into the Epics will slowly dissipate (unless you're crazy like Obliteration). That said, all power comes at a cost, and it would be a violation of Sanderson's Second Law to give characters unchecked abilities. 

I think it's important to note that the Apocalypse Guard series at least premise wise seemed to be focused on limitations rather than weaknesses and costs for the characters.  Take, for example, Elantris.  The goal of overcoming overwhelming odds lets Sanderson implement a magic system in the Dor that has costs that seem to be at the end of the book mostly just skill and location based with little costs.  Despite this, I'm confident that Sanderson could do a worthy sequel because of the fact that it seems like the major opponent(s) in the sequel would have comparative powers.  Same with any direct sequel to the Reckoners.  You can get away with having a team of super powered people trying to stop an apocalypse because despite super powers the enormity of the challenge creates the ability to still have tension and loss.  It has been established the apocalypse guard has had to evacuate dimensions due to their failure to save them right in the first description of the story, and great power is only problematic from a story telling perspective if it is not met by adequate resistance.  

 

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21 minutes ago, mozzery said:

...great power is only problematic from a story telling perspective if it is not met by adequate resistance.  

I agree with this. I think Sanderson is more than capable of creating an interesting challenge. I do think he should be careful though. Too many times heroes have become too powerful. For example, Superman is so overpowered right now he's become hard to write with. He's faster than the Flash, stronger than Solomon Grundy. The only villains with a chance of beating him are smarter guys like Brainiac, or Superman parodies like Superboy Prime. And once that happens, the little guys with no powers get ignored (Batman), and fights become boring. I hope Sanderson continues with this series, especially if the movie adaptation is popular, but I'd caution against the dangers of too much power.

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Maybe there would be a secret new way to kill them. Say this was the original weakness, but someone figured out a scientific chemical that could be tailored to epics and create a new weakness...

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Or other epics of high enough power could overload the high epics powers

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On 12/21/2017 at 4:58 PM, Supreme King Z-arc said:

That would make sense for epics who already had those fears before calamity came, but what about those without major fears? Most people don't have one major thing they fear.

All epics have major fears seeing as how Calamity only chose people with deep trauma to give them powers.

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On 6/24/2018 at 9:20 AM, Ark1002 said:

Maybe there would be a secret new way to kill them. Say this was the original weakness, but someone figured out a scientific chemical that could be tailored to epics and create a new weakness...

That would work, though that could of happened early just everyone was so focused on the actual weaknesses they didn't think about that.

Edit: Sorry about the double post. I was just starting out.:unsure:

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