Arinian Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 24 minutes ago, Megasif said: And what is that about scans Devotary. Are you the scanner? Sorry I've been rather inattentive in some regards. Yes Devotary scanner. And Devotary's scans is main reason why Rand was lynched, and Rand was elim(if your attention was so low). Quote The way Arinian reacted when they were in danger last cycle and Alv saying they don't suspect them anymore and using that as a lifeline to take votes off themselves. I think they could be an elim. No Alv not elim Devotary scanned him. Quote This clearly should've gone through last cycle. Perfect chance for the elims to push me as one or two have voiced their suspicion on me. If I remember right I were first who voiced suspicions of you. Quote Edit: If Arinian is elim, it's very possible Ornstein is also an elim because of the way Arinian is talking about Ornstein. No Ornstein just doing or saying weird things often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megasif Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Arinian said: Yes Devotary scanner. And Devotary's scans is main reason why Rand was lynched, and Rand was elim(if your attention was so low). No Alv not elim Devotary scanned him. If I remember right I were first who voiced suspicions of you. No Ornstein just doing or saying weird things often. lol was rand elim!!?? Okay why isn't Devotary dead. He can't keep getting protected right? And this way he can keep getting confirmed villagers. I'm thinking it could be a ploy and a WGG by the elims. *Goes to go check the rules/roles list* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arinian Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 13 minutes ago, Megasif said: lol was rand elim!!?? Okay why isn't Devotary dead. He can't keep getting protected right? And this way he can keep getting confirmed villagers. I'm thinking it could be a ploy and a WGG by the elims. *Goes to go check the rules/roles list* You joking? Sorry but I don't believe you, looks like elim trying to play fool. Devotary can get protection every turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkrunner Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 Hey! @Steeldancer Inspection time! Spoiler Village Read: Neutral Read: Elim Read: NAI: Blank 1. Spoiler States that he will be somewhat inactive. States that he will not be on until after Christmas. 2. Spoiler Says he will PM people in order to make his reads. Can anyone confirm a PM from Steeldancer? 3. Spoiler Votes for me. 4. Spoiler Takes his vote off of me to prevent a tie. 5. Spoiler Defends Randuir. 6. Spoiler Votes on drought for somewhat trivial reasons, but retracts and votes on randuir after Devotary reveals the scan results. (He is the second vote on rand.) 7. Spoiler Expresses annoyance with Alv's and Arin's continued antics. 8. Spoiler Votes on Rand again. 9. Spoiler Joins the Apophis, Ra shenanigans. 10. Spoiler Denounces the Apophis, Ra shenanigans. 11. Spoiler I would like to point out Alv's response to Steeldancer's vote, which sums up the last few points pretty well: Quote First he starts off today by bringing up the Ra vs Apophis debate making it bigger than just the fun I've been having the last few cycles. Then he 'suggests' that we both get lynched which means no real discussion this round. And once the ball gets rolling, he tries to back away from it despite it being his idea in the first place. 12. Spoiler Votes on livinglegend to break the tie. (Leaning slightly elim.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steeldancer Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, Arinian said: You joking? Sorry but I don't believe you, looks like elim trying to play fool. Devotary can get protection every turn. Yeah, at this point the bodyguard knows exactly who to protect. @Roadwalker I totally forgot that we had PMs... I did mean to lol Edited January 7, 2018 by Steeldancer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkrunner Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 I would like to suggest that a mayoring setup might be effective... With devotary scanning people in an order that he keeps to himself. His guards should PM him, so he knows who they are. And @Steeldancer I get it. Totally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alvron Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 Apophis. Ornstein. I trust Ari more than Mega or Ornstein so I'm more than happy to have the lynch be tied between the two of them. Vote tally: Ornstein (2): Devotary, Alv Ari (1): Alv, Mega Mega (2): Steel, Ari 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megasif Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 (edited) 56 minutes ago, Arinian said: You joking? Sorry but I don't believe you, looks like elim trying to play fool. Devotary can get protection every turn. Yes I was joking about Randuir. However, before I proceed, Arinian. I have a confession to make. I haven't been reading all the posts. I have just now caught up on all of it.I voted randuir simply because of his last minute vote on a budgie. So Walin and Devotary both role-reveal on the same day. Yet the elims decide to go for Walin and kill him rather than our scanner. I don''t get why? They should've ideally gone for Devotary. I doubt the guard would protect him thinking it an elim trick at that point. or even if the bodyguard did protect devotary, it was still worth the risk. Then Randuir turns out to be an elim and the next night, the elims attack Devotary. Elims could very easily have a bodyguard role as well. And after sacrificing Randuir, they can use WGG on devotary and then get him to start trusting their elimmates. A few problems in this theory: Too soon to put it into motion? Why sacrifice Randuir? Elims have not attempted another attack on Devotary because the bodyguard has been protecting devotary every night and elims want to find the bodyguard first. Points in favour of this theory: Alvron hasn't been targeted even though he's been proven as a village. If he can never be lynched, makes sense to get rid of him. Kyne's death. Drought has had a few suspicions and I believe one of them was from Kyne. kyndedeath suspected randuir initially and wanted to vote alvron previous cycle before he was told Alv has been snooped. If we are indeed being fooled, then Alvron's vote tie's are essentially tools being used to make sure another villager is always in the tie. It gets rid of the elim wagon and puts another wagon by bringing up a villager wagon. Or maybe it's just Alv being Alv. Arinian is actually off the table for me here. For now. Steeldancer trying to make me a lynch today. With a weird reason. Can I ask you to offer something more substantial. Darkness was N1 kill, he was suspicious of Roadkwalker and roadwalker hasn't been suspected since. He was a possible lynch the first day. But it could be framing. But I actually liked Road's case on Steeldancer. No idea on ornstein at the moment though. I think today I want to go Steeldancer. Thoughts? Edit: I'm sure there could be another village snoop. In which case, I suggest they target Devotary tonight. Edited January 7, 2018 by Megasif 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alvron Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 The problem with the fake scanner ploy is that at some stage we have to kill them to confirm anything they have to say. Outing Rand so early puts the Elims on the back foot fairly early. It would've been better to wait another couple of cycles to do that. As for Devotary, I was planning on calling for his death next cycle to confirm his scans unless he came up with another elim this night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megasif Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 (edited) The twist I was thinking is where they accurately pick a villager or two and get their trust as well. E.g. they correctly state that you didn't target anyone and therefore you're a villager. And you actually are. Then you would trust them. The danger is if they target a village role who used their action and the scanner says 'they didn't use any action last night, therefore they are a villager' then that person can counter claim. But reading through again, Devotary actually appears to be sincere but it's still a possibility so I'd rather state it to the thread than staying quiet and getting lynched. The above point makes me not want to lynch one of the scanner's targets in case they correctly called them villager to get their trust. It will end up with a villager getting lynched and we're still not sure whether the scanner is telling the truth or not. On the other hand, I don't think the elim ploy makes it so all the elims are put up on the trusted list as the scanner getting revealed as fake, puts them on the hit list. We could go with your suggestion and lynch devotary tomorrow. hmm. Edit: Pending the condition, of course, of getting us another elim. Edited January 7, 2018 by Megasif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arinian Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 41 minutes ago, Alvron said: Apophis. Ornstein. I trust Ari more than Mega or Ornstein so I'm more than happy to have the lynch be tied between the two of them. Vote tally: Ornstein (2): Devotary, Alv Ari (1): Alv, Mega Mega (2): Steel, Ari I honestly don't want ties at that point because they mixing my reads. Not gonna say what you should do but atleast think about possibility of not creating ties . 27 minutes ago, Megasif said: Yes I was joking about Randuir. However, before I proceed, Arinian. Blah blah blah. You two cycles in a row voted for me and now confessing that you haven't read thread and voted for me without logical reasons? 27 minutes ago, Megasif said: Elims could very easily have a bodyguard role as well. And after sacrificing Randuir, they can use WGG on devotary and then get him to start trusting their elimmates. I actualy thought about possibility of WGG but discarded that idea, for now, based on reasons pointed by Alv. Quote So Walin and Devotary both role-reveal on the same day. Yet the elims decide to go for Walin and kill him rather than our scanner. I don''t get why? They should've ideally gone for Devotary. I doubt the guard would protect him thinking it an elim trick at that point. or even if the bodyguard did protect devotary, it was still worth the risk. Then Randuir turns out to be an elim and the next night, the elims attack Devotary. Well maybe elims wanted to try to save Rand as we can see he even survived 1 cycle, maybe that's why they kept Devotary alive for 1 cycle or pretty usual scenario Devotary not scan role but in contact with Snoop, maybe elims thought that it so. Honestly I even don't want to think about this part cause there thousands of possibilities, it's all IKYKs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megasif Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, Arinian said: I honestly don't want ties at that point because they mixing my reads. Not gonna say what you should do but atleast think about possibility of not creating ties . Blah blah blah. You two cycles in a row voted for me and now confessing that you haven't read thread and voted for me without logical reasons? I actualy thought about possibility of WGG but discarded that idea, for now, based on reasons pointed by Alv. Well maybe elims wanted to try to save Rand as we can see he even survived 1 cycle, maybe that's why they kept Devotary alive for 1 cycle or pretty usual scenario Devotary not scan role but in contact with Snoop, maybe elims thought that it so. Honestly I even don't want to think about this part cause there thousands of possibilities, it's all IKYKs. Well not exactly that I haven't read the thread but more like I missed some bits. Namely, Devotary's claim. And my vote on you was as logical as Alv's vote on you. That's about it today from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alvron Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 8 minutes ago, Arinian said: I honestly don't want ties at that point because they mixing my reads. Not gonna say what you should do but atleast think about possibility of not creating ties . Very well, I'll think about it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arinian Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 Just now, Alvron said: Very well, I''l think about it. Not so hard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alvron Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Arinian said: Not so hard Too late. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jondesu Posted January 8, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 Cycle ends in 15 minutes! I’ve been sick, so no promises on how quickly the next cycle gets up, but it shouldn’t be too long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devotary of Spontaneity Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 2 hours ago, Megasif said: Edit: I'm sure there could be another village snoop. In which case, I suggest they target Devotary tonight. If there was another village snoop, they probably would have targeted me by now, as they've had 3 nights to do so. 1 hour ago, Alvron said: As for Devotary, I was planning on calling for his death next cycle to confirm his scans unless he came up with another elim this night. I'm okay with this plan. 1 hour ago, Arinian said: Well maybe elims wanted to try to save Rand as we can see he even survived 1 cycle, maybe that's why they kept Devotary alive for 1 cycle or pretty usual scenario Devotary not scan role but in contact with Snoop, maybe elims thought that it so. Honestly I even don't want to think about this part cause there thousands of possibilities, it's all IKYKs. I doubt the elims thought I was in contact with a snoop, as PMs are only open at night and I don't get my scan results until after the night is over. Ornstein and livinglegend haven't posted, so they can't take any actions even if they are elims. @Jondesu, if either of them are eliminators, would they scan as having taken actions if an active eliminator puts in a kill order? I won't change my vote, though, as Megasif is looking better even though he somehow missed my roleclaim despite being the next person to post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jondesu Posted January 8, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, Devotary of Spontaneity said: Ornstein and livinglegend haven't posted, so they can't take any actions even if they are elims. @Jondesu, if either of them are eliminators, would they scan as having taken actions if an active eliminator puts in a kill order? If any Black Sands member places a kill order, all of them (active or inactive) will show up as having targeted the victim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jondesu Posted January 8, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 Aaaaaand, the cycle has ended! New cycle up before long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jondesu Posted January 8, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 (edited) Once again, two accusations were brought before Koralis. They all knew they needed to unite better, but none of them was willing to trust more than one or two others, and even then they kept a wary eye. Pizanca had been thrust forward, followed by Autch Vat, with wary voices accusing them of various suspicious things, most reluctant to be firmly identified to their increasingly irate leader. Koralis didn't even hesitate this time. He flipped the coin, and struck as it touched the sand. Pizanca looked up in horror and relief at the body of Autch Vat laying next to him, and then fled with the others into the bright light outside. Not until later did most of them realize that Koralis hadn't even spoken a word. If they had, most would have realized their precarious position within his organization. Megasif has died! They were a Kor Thief! Player List: Spoiler Roadwalker as Silver Feather Steeldancer as Steel Kynedath as Schrito Kor Thief Devotary of Spontaneity as Erdon Randuir as Talzeen Black Sands Thief Straw as Gliht Bkackn Kor Thief A Joe In The Bush as Jesenesh Stormwind Kor Thief Ornstein as Pizanca Walin as Rennid Black Market Arms Dealer Alvron as Ra Droughtbringer as themself Darkness_ as Grevilar S'nathar Kor Thief Arinian as Apophis A Budgie as Chocolarzin Kor Thief livinglegend as Kharaght Megasif as Vatch Aut Kor Thief This cycle will end in 24 hours, at 8PM EST Jan 8. Edited January 8, 2018 by Jondesu Included death~ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Droughtbringer Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 So apparently nothing is happening anymore... I have no ideas. Will read the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jondesu Posted January 8, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 Whoops, just realized I didn't actually include Megasif's death and alignment reveal! Updated the original post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livinglegend Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 Well, as fun as this whole tie thing has been, and as appreciative as I am about the gods of chance sparing me; I don't think we can afford to keep it up. I'll put Ornstein up as a vote when the new day comes up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jondesu Posted January 9, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 I didn't anticipate quite so prophetic a title… The cycle has ended! New one will be up shortly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jondesu Posted January 9, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 Everyone had slunk back to their hiding spots, determined to weather both Koralis' wrath and the peril of the Black Sands. Ihsan's name was now being whispered almost as often as Koralis, and no one in the entire town had yet seen him, to their knowledge. This shadowy figure was beginning to overshadow their brooding crime lord, and all could feel that they might get blown away in the conflict like a rag in a sandstorm. As time passed, they eventually peeked out, looking for the inevitable latest victim. Try as they might, though, they found nothing out of the ordinary. This time, they were all still alive. No one has died. Player List: Spoiler Roadwalker as Silver Feather Steeldancer as Steel Kynedath as Schrito Kor Thief Devotary of Spontaneity as Erdon Randuir as Talzeen Black Sands Thief Straw as Gliht Bkackn Kor Thief A Joe In The Bush as Jesenesh Stormwind Kor Thief Ornstein as Pizanca Walin as Rennid Black Market Arms Dealer Alvron as Ra Droughtbringer as themself Darkness_ as Grevilar S'nathar Kor Thief Arinian as Apophis A Budgie as Chocolarzin Kor Thief livinglegend as Kharaght Megasif as Vatch Aut Kor Thief This cycle will end in 48 hours, at 8PM EST Jan 10. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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