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[OB] Kaladin and Syl

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17 minutes ago, delphinousy said:

. i would love to see him and syl be together in a romantic way, but i thin they'll just be friends/partners. if there is any romance, 

Please no, that's so wrong.

17 minutes ago, delphinousy said:

, it'll be between kalladin and eshonai. We know that she's supposed to have a book, and while she's 'dead' she'll probably do a return, and that when we'll get an explanation of whats going o with them, and kalladin's already sympathetic to the parshmen, so i think that's how they'll interact.

She won't return she's gone to the beyond.

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Based on their relationship, I could potentially see it but based on who Brandon is as a person it seems highly, highly unlikely

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On 18/09/2020 at 4:32 PM, delphinousy said:

i'm honestly pretty sure that kalladin is not going to be getting any romance. he's either going to die heroically in the last book, or otherwise be removed from roshar in some way, like becoming a new herald and being banished to braize or something. i'm basically getting VIN vibes form him where he's going to have an epic moment but not a happy ending. i would love to see him and syl be together in a romantic way, but i thin they'll just be friends/partners. if there is any romance, it'll be between kalladin and eshonai. We know that she's supposed to have a book, and while she's 'dead' she'll probably do a return, and that when we'll get an explanation of whats going o with them, and kalladin's already sympathetic to the parshmen, so i think that's how they'll interact.

Agreed, Kaladin's totally gonna die heroically.

 

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11 hours ago, The Last SkyBreaker said:

 

Agreed, Kaladin's totally gonna die heroically.

 

welcome to the shard

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i've since revised my theory, mostly based off of the 'syl interlude' that brandon sent out i think 2 months ago with his newsletter, so spoiler warning if you haven't read it.

syl wants to help kaladin be happy so badly, and she pushed so hard for him to romance shallan in oathbringer because she thinks romance is the answer, and inthe interlude she wants to be changed to be less spren-like and more human-like to understand and help him better. the stormfather has the power but not hte ability, and dalinar isn't able/willing to do what she asks, so i wonder if syl will have an encounter with either the nightmother or cultivation herself, like dalinar did, to request help. 
i can fully believe that cultivation would do something so that syl eventually develops over the 4th and 5th book until she becomes either fully human, or some humanoid spren being. the results of this would be that she and kaladin would be able to develop a relationship, but also that they would no longer have the nahel bond, and this might be the end of kaladin, that at the end of the first 5 books, he accepts syl's transformation and the loss of his powers, to finally be at peace and to go off into the sunset to make a family. it would ahve been more than just syl helping him to fix his issues and ge thim to a healthy state, but this could be the finale and culmination of his path.

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There is a conversation between them when Syl reveals she's watched other people "being intimate" and when Kaladin tries to think about being with a woman and Syl watching (and I think he imagines her offering suggestions and encouragement), he is thoroughly uncomfortable.  Just her being present is unthinkable to him, let alone being involved.

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It's definitely not my ship, but I honestly wouldn't mind it. I could see Kaladin dying, becoming a Cognitive Shadow, and somehow being with Syl that way. 

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i don't think that kaladin was uncomfortable with syl being present, so much as the entire concept of being with someone while also having someone watching and/or participating in an intimate moment makes him uncomfortable, rather than being uncomfortable with syl

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I am ok with it happening, but I don't think it will and there are probably better choices for him to date. Even Jasnah seems more interesting.

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I agree. Kaladan and Syl should end up together. Because as has been stated already, they have a very deep bond now. I can see them growing even closer. Syl is the only one Kaladan really trusts. He needs her. Anyway, if Kaladan and Syl end up together I believe they will be transformed into something very special. Since I read WOK the first time I always thought there is more to Kaladan than just a Windrunner. He has on occasion shown tremendous powers that I think maybe something different than what Windrunners are know for. But, I maybe way off base here. But this is what I wish will happen.

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One of my friends (who is a rabid kalsyl shipper so take what she says in regards to the pairing with heapings of salt) compared certain elements of the relationship though WoR to the myth of Eros and psyche with Syl as Eros and Kaladin as psyche. Her argument was elements such as Syl's temporary 'death' followed by her being held captive by the stormfather is comparable to Eros running back to his mother when psyche betrays him and Eros/Syl returning to save Psyche/Kaladin's life. I'm not certain I buy the theory, but the parallels are interesting.

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