[OB]Knights Radiant List

[Edvarin]

So, I've been going through these posts and haven't yet seen an updated list of the Knights Radiant and what we know of them. So I've made the attempt if theres another, or someone has other info that I didn't collect, I would love to hear about it. We currently know 10-13 out of 37 Oaths, counting the 1st Oath as 1 instead of 10 and not counting truths, which vary. Also taking into account certain theories regards spoken oaths.

The Oaths/Ideals of the Knights Radiant tend to go in this type of order.

• 1st Oath - Fortifies bond with spren, one begins the path towards Knight Radiant.
• 2nd Oath - Not yet Radiant, but already Surgebinder fully bonded to spren.
• 3nd Oath - Become a Knight Radiant and receive your Shardblade for most Orders.
• 4th Oath - This is where most Knights Radiant end their progress, they possibly receive Shardplate and increase in powers on this level.
• 5th Oath - Ultimate Oath, only a few Knights Radiant reach this Oath, it's about becoming one with what your Order represents .

 

Bondsmiths - I will Unite - These Knights use the Tension and Adhesion Surges and follow the Herald Ishar. There can only be 3 a time as they Bond the Siblings. The Stormfather of course, and possibly the Nightwatcher and Cusicesh. Gloryspren are also associated with Bondsmiths. 

Known Oaths - 1. Life before death, strength before weakness, journey before destination. 2. I will unite instead of divide. i will bring men together. 3. I will take responsibility for what I have done. If I must fall, I will rise each time a better man.(Note: We have WoB via Hoidonalsium that Dalinar only spoke 1 Oath at the end of OB. He has only spoken his 3rd Ideal.) 4th and 5th Ideals still unknown.

Known Bondsmiths - Dalinar Kholin. Bonded to the Stormfather. He has sworn the 3rd Ideal.

 

Windrunners - I will Protect - These Knights use the Adhesion and Gravitation Surges and follow the Herald Jezrien. They Bond Honorspren. Windspren are also associated with Windrunners.

Known Oaths - 1. Life before death, strength before weakness, journey before destination. 2. I will protect those who cannot protect themselves. 3. I will protect even those I hate, so long as it is right. 4th and 5th Ideals still unknown.

Known Windrunners - Kaladin Stormblessed. Bonded to Sylphrena. He has sworn the 3rd Ideal. Teft. Honorsprens name is not known. He has sworn the 3rd Ideal. Lopen. Bonded to Rua. He has sworn the 2nd Ideal. Most of Bridge Four, some thirty or forty men and woman are squires. Many have spoken the 1st Ideal and some have probably spoken the 2nd including Skar and Drehy.

 

Lightweavers - I will speak my truth - These Knights use the Illumination and Transformation Surges and follow the Herald Shalash. They Bond Cryptics. Creationspren are also associated with Lightweavers.

Known Oaths - 1. Life before death, strength before weakness, journey before destination. After the 1st Ideal, they speak truths instead of oaths.

Known Lightweavers - Shallan Davar. Bonded to Pattern. Pretty sure we have WoB that she is one step ahead of Kaladin. So 4th Ideal. She spoke the truths that all Shardblades were flawed except for hers and that she had killed her mother at the end of WoR. Also, it is said that her other two truths were 'I'm scared" and  'I killed my father''. At least one possibly 3 squires including Vathah. It is suspected that Elhokar was about to Bond a Cryptic, which eventually left with Hoid.

 

Elsecallers - I will reach my potential - These Knights use the Transformation and Transportation Surges and follow the Herald Battar. They Bond Inkspren. Logicspren are also associated with Elsecallers.

Known Oaths - 1. Life before death, strength before weakness, journey before destination. All other Ideals still unknown.

Known Elsecallers - Jasnah Kholin. Bonded to Ivory. It is suspected that she has sworn the 4th or 5th Ideals based on her control.

 

Edgedancers - I will remember - These Knights use the Abrasion and Progression Surges and follow the Herald Vedeledev. They Bond Cultivationspren. Lifespren are also associated with Edgedancers(Info courtesy of PhineasGage).

Known Oaths - 1. Life before death, strength before weakness, journey before destination. 2. I will remember those who have been forgotten. 3. I will listen to those who have been ignored. 4th and 5th Ideals still unknown.

Known Edgedancers - Lift. Bonded to Wyndle. She has sworn the 3rd Ideal. It is suspected that Adolin Kholin will eventually Bond Maya, who's Shardblade form has an Edgedancers glyph.

 

Truthwatchers - I will seek Truth - These Knights use the Progression and Illumination Surges and follow the Herald Paliah. It is not known what spren Truthwatchers Bond, but it is stated in chapter 53 on page 525 of OB that their spren look like light on a surface after it reflects through something crystalline. It is currently unknown which other spren are associated with this Order.

Known Oaths - 1. Life before death, strength before weakness, journey before destination. Other oaths still unknown.

Known Truthwatchers - Renarin Kholin. Bonded to Glys, a corrupted spren. His progression is currently unknown. He is technically only half Truthwatcher, the other half being from the Voidbinder side. Also, the orphanage caretaker Lift met(Called the Stump, courtesy of Rider of the Storms.)  is supposed to be a Truthwatcher. It is confirmed by WoB that Ym would have been a Truthwatcher(Info courtesy of Aleksiel).

Skybreakers - I will seek Justice - These Knights use the Gravitation and Division Surges and follow the Herald Nale. They Bond Highspren. It is currently unknown which other spren are associated with this Order.

Known Oaths - 1. The Ideal of Radiance. Life before death, strength before weakness, journey before destination. 2. The second oath is the Ideal of Justice, an oath to seek and administer justice.  They must Bond a spren before swearing the 3rd Ideal. 3. The 3rd oath is the Ideal of Dedication. They dedicate themselves to a cause or a person. This is where they learn Division. 4. The 4th is the Ideal of Crusade. They must choose a personal quest and complete it to the satisfaction of their spren. 5. The Ideal of Law. They must become law. Become truth.

Known Skybreakers - The Herald Nale. His spren is currently unknown. He has sworn the 5th Ideal. Szeth. His spren is currently unknown. He has sworn the 3rd ideal. There is a full Order of perhaps a hundred Skybreakers, many who have sworn the 3rd and 4th Ideals, but none save Nale the 5th. Shallans brother Heleran was a member of the Skybreakers, but probably hadn't sworn the 2nd oath due to not having a living Shardblade of his own. Killing Amaram was probably his mission which would have allowed him to swear the 2nd.

 

Dustbringers - I will seek self-mastery - These Knights prefer the term 'Releasers' and use the Division and Abrasion Surges and follow the Herald Chanarach. It is hinted that Dustbringers Bond Ashspren(Info courtesy of psc92). It is suspected that firespren are also associated with this Order.

Known Oaths - 1. Life before death, strength before weakness, journey before destination. All other oaths are currently unknown.

Known Dustbringers - Malata. Bonded to Sparks(Info courtesy of Aleksiel). It is suspected that she has sworn at least the 2nd and possibly the 3rd Ideal. There is a theory that Shalash, Herald of the Lightweavers, Bonded an Ashspren, though this is still unconfirmed(Info courtesy of Rider of Storms).

 

Willshapers - I will seek freedom - These Knights use the Cohesion and Transportation Surges and follow the Herald Kalak. It is suspected that they Bond Lightspren(per Capt Ico's daughter is Timbre theory). It is currently unknown which other spren are associated with this Order.

Known Oaths - 1. Life before death, strength before weakness, journey before destination. All other oaths are currently unknown.

Known Willshapers - Venli of the Listeners. Bonded to Timbre. She has sworn the 1st Ideal.

 

Stonewards - I will be there when I'm needed - These Knights use the Cohesion and Tension Surges and follow the Herald Taln. It is suspected that they Bond Stonespren. It is currently unknown which other spren are associated with this Order.

Known Oaths - 1. Life before death, strength before weakness, journey before destination. All other Ideals still unknown. It is suspected that an unknown oath Brandon wrote in a signed book "I will stand when others fall." is a Stoneward oath(courtesy of Calderis).

Known Stonewards - The only Stoneward we have seen so far is the Herald Taln, if you count Heralds. It is unknown if he, or any other Herald, has sworn the oaths and Bonded spren like Nale.

(Edited: Added secondary spren  based on the suggestion of Erunion and info by Aleksiel. "I will stand when others fall." )

(Edited: Corrected the specifics of when Skybreakers Bond their spren. Courtesy of rjl.)

(Edited: Added a list of Ideal progression at the beginning. Courtesy of Beatsmorn.)

(Edited: Added themes from Arcanum)

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited July 12, 2020 by Edvarin

[Aleksiel]

Nice job! Malata calls her spren Sparks. I don't know if Szeth technically counts as SB, because he hasn't attracted a highspren, isn't he essentially bonded to Nightblood now?

You can count Ym as a deceased TW:

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Ted Herman (paraphrased)

Ym is confirmed to not be an Edgedancer. Does that mean that he would have become a Truthwatcher?

Brandon Sanderson (paraphrased)

Yes.

 

Edited November 24, 2017 by Aleksiel

[Edvarin]

Thanks for the info! I will update the list. At the end of OB it was shown and Nale made reference that Szeth had Bonded a spren, though I guess it wasn't talking to him yet, perhaps because of Nightblood.

[Erunion]

Nice - some corrections/questions.  

- Dalinar may have actually sworn two oaths there, with ‘I will take responsibility...’ and ‘if I must fall...’ being two separate oaths. 

- there are a LOT of theories about the bondsmith siblings. We also don’t know if Cusicesh is an Unmade. Generally, there are a few theories - one sibling per Shard, or one Honour sibling, one cultivation sibling, and one half/half sibling (who could be Cusicesh, the Spren I’d Urithiru, or both at the same time). It’s also possible that the siblings originally were related to Growth/Storm/Sea (And were Nightwatcher, stormfather And Cusicesh respectively) and had nothing to do with the shards, their being ancient Spren, but Nightwatcher/stormfather were later co-opted by Honour/Cultivation. 

A lot of unknowns there. 

 

- The oaths tend to vary after the second one especially, so we should use generalized terms (as you do for the Skybreakers), so for the wind runners third oath it should be the oath to ‘protect those you hate’ with the end of it varying 

 

- probably a good idea to include the minor Spren as well, eg. glory Spren for bondsmiths, windspren for windrunners, creation Spren for lightweavers 

[Aleksiel]

3 minutes ago, Edvarin said:

Thanks for the info! I will update the list. At the end of OB it was shown and Nale made reference that Szeth had Bonded a spren, though I guess it wasn't talking to him yet, perhaps because of Nightblood.

Hm, I'll need to re-read it, I was under the impression NB was who Nale referred, but I could be wrong.

1 minute ago, Erunion said:

probably a good idea to include the minor Spren as well, eg. glory Spren for bondsmiths, windspren for windrunners, creation Spren for lightweavers 

That's a good idea. Logicspren are likely inkspren's lesser cousins.

[Edvarin]

You make good points Erunion. I've updated the list. I have 4 secondary spren listed so far. If anyone can think of any others, let me know! Thanks!

[rjl]

@Edvarin One correction on the Skybreakers; they don't bond their spren at the 3rd ideal - they have to bond their spren before then, see chapter 90, page 867 of the US hardcover

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The Third Ideal, the Ideal of Dedication, requires you to have first bonded a highspren"

i.e. you must bond the spren before you can speak the oath not at the moment that you speak it.

See also chapter 121, page 1198

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I swear to follow the will of Dalinar Kholin. This is my oath." At the Words, snow crystallized around him in the air, then fluttered down. He felt a surge of something. Approval? From the hidden spren who only rarely showed itself to him, even still

Clearly Szeth had bonded the spren at some point earlier though when exactly I don't know

Edited November 24, 2017 by rjl

[Edvarin]

Eleksiel, I went and found the part where it references Szeths spren. Chapter 121: Ideals. Pages 1197-1198.
 

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  "The law made by men, so it is not perfect either. It is not perfection we seek, for perfection is impossible. It is instead consistency. You have said the Words?"

   "Not yet. I swear to follow the will of Dalinar Kholin. This is my oath."

At the Words, snow crystallized around him in the air, then fluttered down. He felt a surge of something. Approval? From the hidden spren who only rarely showed itself to him, even still.

   "I believe your Words have been accepted. Have you chosen your quest for the next Ideal?"

 

 

[Edvarin]

Rjl beat me to it lol. I made the necessary corrections rjl. Thanks!

[Aleksiel]

Ooh, so the spren has appeared to Szeth since he says it rarely shows itself instead of not all. I've missed that completely, thanks guys! I'll look for hints. Szeth is a SB then.

[psc92]

Malata heavily implies that Dustbringers bond to Ashspren.

[PhineasGage]

Given that the picture of Vev from the endplates of OB show her surrounded by Lifespren, it seems that they likely are the "lesser spren" associated with Edgedancers. Also Lift is followed by some in Edgedancer.

I was wondering where we got the idea that lightspren bond willshapers? I got the impression that the reachers were the ones that bonded them given the interest in travel? I'm not saying I'm right, simply my own impression. Info would be appreciated.

[Khyrindor]

Are you planning on adding historic Knights Radiant as well? For example, Nohadon was probably and Edgedancer, and Words of Radiance gave us the names of quite a few Radiants of Old (notable ones being Bondsmiths).

You may want to add Vathah (I think he bonded his own, but I already forget), Elhokar and Hoid to the Lightweavers list, and Heleran (deceased (maybe)) to the Skybreakers list. Was it also confirmed that Lyn got to the second Oath yet, or is she just a squire?

It's also likely that Ash may be a proto Dustbringer, but that is unconfirmed.

(The orphanage caretaker is known as The Stump).

[Aleksiel]

2 hours ago, psc92 said:

Malata heavily implies that Dustbringers bond to Ashspren.

This could hint towards firespren being DB lesser spren.

 

Following that logic, Wyndle might be cultivationspren like it has been speculated, making lifespren his cousins as mentioned above, although I'm inclined to match them with TW because of the green color.

edit: Shardplates glow in the respective Order color, but they are grey in present day Roshar, so either all lost their color after Recreance or it was the glow itself that made Plates colorful in the first place. So after thinking about it, lifespren being green might not be the best criteria to judge whose lesser spren they are.

Edited November 24, 2017 by Aleksiel

[Shoots]

We were never told which order the mistspren (sailers on the honorsprens' ship) are associated with, but it seems to me that they would only fit with the Truthwatchers because the other orders are accounted for.

[stonedshaman]

You see the highsprens at some point during the skybreaker testing.  I don' have the book near me but there was something about a spren that looks like two lines

[Edvarin]

Rider of Storms, I thought it was confirmed that Ash was actually Shalash, Herald of Lightweavers. I also had Vathah in there as a squire. It was never stated that he swore even the 1st oath, just that he could draw Stormlight. Also added notes for Elhokar, Hoid and Heleran. As far as Lightspren go, I need to research that, but I think its after Jasnah return and they start studying the Radiant spren.

 

Also, Shoots, it is suspected that the daughter of the captain of the Honorsprens ship is Timbre, who Bonded Venli. I probably need something a bit more concrete.

[Khyrindor]

6 minutes ago, Edvarin said:

Rider of Storms, I thought it was confirmed that Ash was actually Shalash, Herald of Lightweavers. I also had Vathah in there as a squire. It was never stated that he swore even the 1st oath, just that he could draw Stormlight. Also added notes for Elhokar, Hoid and Heleran. As far as Lightspren go, I need to research that, but I think its after Jasnah return and they start studying the Radiant spren.

 

Also, Shoots, it is suspected that the daughter of the captain of the Honorsprens ship is Timbre, who Bonded Venli. I probably need something a bit more concrete.

Ash is Shalash, yes, but IIRC she's slated as the Dustbringer flashback character in the back five, and Dalinar and the Stormfather (however ambiguously) counted her as a separate order towards the end of Oathbringer.

The Heralds are not tied to their patron orders, and a lot can happen in four and a half millennia. Nale even mentions that he is the only one of the Heralds to actually join their order.

Edited November 24, 2017 by Rider of Storms

[Calderis]

This is presumably a Stoneward oath, but we don't have explicit confirmation. 

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QUESTION

Can you write an unknown ideal [in my book]?

BRANDON SANDERSON

They are still rough so this might not be the exact wording but: "I will stand when others fall."

 

Edited November 24, 2017 by Calderis

[Edvarin]

5 minutes ago, Rider of Storms said:

Ash is Shalash, yes, but IIRC she's slated as the Dustbringer flashback character in the back five, and Dalinar and the Stormfather (however ambiguously) counted her as a separate order towards the end of Oathbringer.

The Heralds are not tied to their patron orders, and a lot can happen in four and a half millennia. Nale even mentions that he is the only one of the Heralds to actually join their order.

I don't think that the Stormfather is commenting on Dalinars line of thought. I think he was bringing up another topic which he thought was important. I don't recall it saying anything about her being a Dustbringer. Could you point me to a quote in the book or something?

[Edvarin]

Thanks, thats a good one Calderis! I've updated the list!

[shawnhargreaves]

Nice summary.

Ash is suspected to have become a Releaser, in addition to being the Lightweaver Herald.

[Edvarin]

Now I'm really curious! Could someone direct me to some kind of proof or at least a discussion topic?

[shawnhargreaves]

2 minutes ago, Edvarin said:

Now I'm really curious! Could someone direct me to some kind of proof or at least a discussion topic?

[Aleksiel]

2 minutes ago, Edvarin said:

Now I'm really curious! Could someone direct me to some kind of proof or at least a discussion topic?

Here. But I'm skeptical, I think people try to macth Ash to DB because otherwise we have two LW flashback characters and no DB.