[OB] Compilation of Oathbringer Chapter Headings

[Jungah]

This is, as the title says, a compilation of the Oathbringer chapter headings. Have fun. The first three sections are letters. The fourth section are the messages hidden in gemstones, written here in numerical order, not as they appear in the book. The fifth section is made of excerpts from Hessi’s Mythica, a book referenced in Oathbringer. The sixth section is the translation of the Eila Stele. The last part is the postscript of The Way of Kings (the book referenced inside Roshar, not the first book of the Stormlight Archive). 

Oh, and this is very, very long. Have fun.

 

1. Letter Number 1

I’m certain some will feel threatened by this record. Some few may feel liberated. Most will simply feel that it should not exist. I needed to write it anyway. I know that many women who read this will see it only as further proof that I am the godless heretic everyone claims. I can point to the moment when I decided for certain this record had to be written. I hung between realms, seeing into Shadesmar—the realm of the spren—and beyond. I thought that I was surely dead. Certainly, some who saw further than I did thought I had fallen. I did not die.

I experienced something worse.

That moment notwithstanding, I can honestly say this book has been brewing in me since my youth. The sum of my experiences has pointed at this moment. This decision. Perhaps my heresy stretches back to those days in my childhood, where these ideas began. I ask not that you forgive me. Nor that you even understand. I ask only that you read or listen to these words. In this record, I hold nothing back. I will try not to shy away from difficult topics, or paint myself in a dishonestly heroic light. I will express only direct, even brutal, truth. You must know what I have done, and what those actions cost me. For in this comes the lesson. It is not a lesson I claim to be able to teach. Experience herself is the great teacher, and you must seek her directly. You cannot have a spice described to you, but must taste it for yourself. However, with a dangerous spice, you can be warned to taste lightly. I would that your lesson may not be as painful as my own. I am no storyteller, to entertain you with whimsical yarns. I am no philosopher, to intrigue you with piercing questions. I am no poet, to delight you with clever allusions. I have no doubt that you are smarter than I am. I can only relate what happened, what I have done, and then let you draw conclusions. I will confess my murders before you. Most painfully, I have killed someone who loved me dearly. I will confess my heresy. I do not back down from the things I have said, regardless of what the ardents demand. Finally, I will confess my humanity. I have been named a monster, and do not deny those claims. I am the monster that I fear we all can become. So sit back. Read, or listen, to someone who has passed between realms. Listen to the words of a fool. If they cannot make you less foolish, at least let them give you hope. For I, of all people, have changed. 

 

2. Letter Number 2

Dearest Cephandrius,

I received your communication, of course. I noticed its arrival immediately, just as I noticed your many intrusions into my land. You think yourself so clever, but my eyes are not those of some petty noble, to be clouded by a false nose and some dirt on the cheeks. You mustn’t worry yourself about Rayse. It is a pity about Aona and Skai, but they were foolish -- violating our pact from the very beginning. Your skills are admirable, but you are merely a man. You had a chance to be more, and refused it. No good can come of two Shards settling in one location. It was agreed that we would not interfere with one another, and it disappoints me that so few of the Shards have kept to this original agreement.  As for Uli Da, it was obvious from the outset that she was going to be a problem. Good riddance. Regardless, this is not your concern. You turned your back on divinity. If Rayse becomes an issue, he will be dealt with.

And so will you.

Cephandrius, bearer of the First Gem,

You must know better than to approach us by relying upon presumption of past relationship. You have spoken to one who cannot respond. We, instead, will take your communication to us -- though we know not how you located us upon this world. We are indeed intrigued, for we thought it well hidden, insignificant among our many realms. As the waves of the sea must continue to surge, so must our will continue resolute.

Alone. 

Did you expect anything else from us? We need not suffer the interference of another. Rayse is contained, and we care not for his prison. Indeed, we admire his initiative. Perhaps if you had approached the correct one of us with your plea, it would have found favorable audience. But we stand in the sea, pleased with our domains. Leave us alone. We also instruct that you should not return to Obrodai. We have claimed that world, and a new avatar of our being is beginning to manifest there. She is young yet, and -- as a precaution -- she has been instilled with an intense and overpowering dislike of you.

This is all we will say at this time. If you wish more, seek these waters in person and overcome the tests we have created.

Only in this will you earn our respect.                  

 

3. Letter Number 3

Friend,

Your letter is most intriguing, even revelatory. I would have thought, before attaining my current station, that a deity could not be surprised.

Obviously, this is not true. I can be surprised. I can perhaps even be naive, I think. I am least equipped, of all, to aid you in this endeavor. I am finding that the powers I hold are in such conflict that the most simple of actions can be difficult. I am also made uncertain by your subterfuge. Why have you not made yourself known to me before this? How is it you can hide? Who are you truly, and how do you know so much about Adonalsium? If you could speak to me further, I request open honesty. Return to my lands, approach my servants, and I will see what I can do for your quest. 

 

4. Messages recorded in Gemstones found in Urithiru           

Drawer 1-1, first zircon (Elsecallers)

My research into the cognitive reflections of spren at the tower has been deeply illustrative. Some thought that the Sibling had withdrawn from men by intent -- but I find counter to that theory.

Drawer 1-1, second zircon (Elsecallers)

The wilting of plants and the general cooling of the air is disagreeable, yes, but some of the tower’s functions remain in place. The increased pressure, for example, persists.

Drawer 1-1, third zircon  (Elsecallers)

Something is happening to the Sibling. I agree this is true, but the division among the Knights Radiant is not to blame. Our perceived worthiness is a separate issue.

Drawer 2-3, smokestone (Skybreakers)

We can record any secret we wish, and leave it here? How do we know that they’ll be discovered. Well, I don’t care. Record that then.

Drawer 2-22, smokestone (Skybreakers)

I wish to submit my formal protest at the idea of abandoning the tower. This is an extreme step, taken brashly.

Drawer 3-11, garnet (Lightweavers)

I am worried about the tower’s protections failing. If we are not safe from the Unmade here, then where?

Drawer 4-17, second topaz (Stonewards)

The Edgedancers are too busy relocating the tower’s servants and farmers to send a representative to record their thoughts in these gemstones.

I’ll do it for them, then. They are the ones who will be most displaced by this decision. The Radiants will be taken in by nations, but what of all these people now without homes?

Drawer 8-1, amethyst (Willshaper)

Now that we abandon the tower, can I finally admit that I hate this place? Too many rules.

Drawer 8-21, second emerald (Truthwatcher)

I worry about my fellow Truthwatchers.

Drawer 10-1, sapphire (Windrunners)

Today, I leaped from the tower for the last time. I felt the wind dance around me as I fell all the way along the eastern side, past the tower, and to the foothills below. I’m going to miss that.

Drawer 10-12, sapphire (Windrunners)

My spren claims that this recording will be good for me, so here I go. Everyone says I will swear the Fourth Ideal soon, and in so doing, earn my armor. I simply don’t think that I can. Am I not supposed to want to help people?

Drawer 12-15, ruby (Dustbringer)

If this is to be permanent, then I wish to leave record of my husband and children. Wzmal, as good a man as any woman could dream of loving. Kmakra and Molinar, the true gemstones of my life.

Drawer 16-16, amethyst (Willshaper)

I returned to the tower to find squabbling children, instead of proud knights. That’s why I hate this place. I’m going to go chart the hidden undersea caverns of Aimia; find my maps in Akinah.

Drawer 19-2, third topaz (Stonewards)

The enemy makes another push toward Feverstone Keep. I wish we knew what is was that had them so interested in that area. Could they be intent on capturing Rall Elorim?

Drawer 20-10, zircon (Elsecallers)

As the duly appointed keepers of the perfect gems, we of the Elsecallers have taken the burden of protecting the ruby nicknamed Honor’s Drop. Let it be recorded.

Drawer 24-18, smokestone (Skybreakers)

This generation has had only one Bondsmith, and some blame the divisions among us upon this fact. The true problem is far deeper. I believe that Honor himself is changing.       

Drawer 27-19, topaz (Stonewards)

The disagreements between the Skybreakers and the Windrunners have grown to tragic levels. I plead with any who hear this to recognize you are not so different as you think.

Drawer 29-5, topaz (Stonewards)

As a Stoneward, I spent my entire life looking to sacrifice myself. I secretly worry that is the cowardly way. The easy way out.

Drawer 29-29, ruby (Dustbringer)

Good night, dear Urithiru. Good night, sweet Sibling. Good night, Radiants.     

Drawer 30-20, first emerald (Truthwatcher)

Something must be done about the remnants of Odium’s forces. The parsh, as they are now called, continue their war with zeal, even without their masters from Damnation.

Drawer 30-20, second emerald (Truthwatcher)

A coalition has been formed among scholar Radiants. Our goal is to deny the enemy their supply of Voidlight; this will prevent their continuing transformations, and give us an edge in combat.

Drawer 30-20, third emerald (Truthwatcher)

Our revelation is fueled by the theory that the Unmade can perhaps be captured like ordinary spren. It would require a special prison. And Melishi.

Drawer 30-20, fourth emerald (Truthwatcher)

Ba-Ado-Mishran has somehow Connected with the parsh people, as Odium once did. She provides Voidlight and facilitates forms of power. Our strike team is going to imprison her.

Drawer 30-20, fifth emerald (Truthwatcher)

We are uncertain the effect this will have on the parsh. At the very least, it should deny them forms of power. Melishi is confident, but Naze-daughter-Kuzodo warns of unintended side effects.

Drawer 30-20, sixth emerald (Truthwatcher)

Surely this will bring -- at long last -- the end to the war that the Heralds promised us.

Drawer 30-20, seventh (very small) emerald (Truthwatcher)

Don’t tell anyone. I can’t say it. I must whisper. I foresaw this.

 

5. Hessi’s Mythica, excerpts

Page 3: My research into the Unmade has convinced me that these things were not simply ‘spirits of the void’ or ‘nine shadows who moved in the night’. They were each a specific kind of spren, endowed with vast powers.

Page 4: I have done my best to separate fact from fiction, but the two blend like mixing paint when the Voidbringers are involved. Each of the Unmade has a dozen names, and the powers ascribed to them range from the fanciful to the terrifying.

 Page 7: I should point out that although many personalities and motives are ascribed to them, I’m convinced that the Unmade were still spren. As such, they were as much manifestations of concepts or divine forces as they were individuals.

Page 12: The most important point I wish to make is that the Unmade are still among us. I realize this will be contentious, as much of the lore surrounding them is intertwined with  theology. However, it is clear to me that some of their effects are common in the world -- and we simply treat them as we would the manifestations of the other spren.

Page 26: Taxil mentions Yelig-nar, named Blightwind, in an oft-cited quote. Though Jasnah Kholin has famously called its accuracy into question, I believe it.

Page 27: Yelig-nar had great powers, perhaps the powers of all Surges compounded into one. He could transform any Voidbringer into an extremely dangerous enemy. Curiously, three legends I found mention swallowing a gemstone to engage this progress.

Page 51: Yelig-nar is said to consume souls, but I can’t find a specific explanation. I’m uncertain this lore is correct.

Page 89: Of the Unmade, Sja-anat was most feared by the Radiants. They spoke extensively of her ability to corrupt spren, though only ‘lesser’ spren -- whatever that means.

Page 90: Lore suggests leaving a city if the spren there start acting strangely. Curiously, Sja-anat was often regarded as an individual, when others -- like Moelach or Ashertmarn -- were seen as forces.

Page 121: Nergaoul was known for driving forces into a battle rage, lending them great ferocity. Curiously, he did this to both sides of a conflict, Voidbringer and human. This seems common of the less self-aware spren.

Page 140: I am convinced that Nergaoul is still active on Roshar. The accounts of the Alethi ‘Thrill’ of battle align too well with ancient records -- including the visions of red mist and dying creatures.

Page 143: Moelach is very similar to Nergaoul, though instead of inspiring a battle rage, he supposedly granted visions of the future. In this, lore and theology align. Seeing the future originated from the Unmade, and is from the enemy.

Page 144: Moelach was said to grant visions of the future at different times -- but most commonly at the transition point between realms. When a soul was nearing the Tranquiline Halls.

Page 170: Many cultures speak of the so-called Death Rattles that sometimes overtake people as they die. Tradition ascribes them to the Almighty, but I find to many to be seemingly prophetic. This will be my most contentious assertion I am sure, but I think these are the effects of Moelach persisting in our current times. Proof is easy to provide: the effect is regionalized, and tends to move across Roshar. This is the roving of the Unmade.

Page 203: Ashertmarn, the Heart of the Revel, is the final of the three great mindless Unmade. His gift to men is not prophecy or battle focus, but a lust for indulgence. Indeed, the great debauchery recorded from the court of Bayala in 480 -- which led to dynastic collapse -- might be attributable to the influence of Ashertmarn.

Page 224: I find Ba-Ado-Mishram to be the most interesting of the Unmade. She is said to have been keen of mind, a highprincess among the enemy forces, their commander during some of the Desolations. I do not know how this relates to the ancient god of the enemy, named Odium.

Page 226: There is very little information about Ba-Ado-Mishram in more modern times. I can only assume she, unlike many of them, returned to Damnation or was destroyed during Aharietiam.

Page 231: Chemoarish, the Dustmother, has some of the most varied lore surrounding her. The wealth of it makes sorting lies from truths extremely difficult. I do believe she is not the Nightwatcher, contrary to what some stories claim.

Page 250: Re-Shepir, the Midnight Mother, is another Unmade who appears to have been destroyed at Aharietiam.

Page 252: The Midnight Mother created monsters of shadow and oil, dark imitations of creatures she saw or consumed. Their description matches no spren I can find in modern literature.

Page 266: It will not take a careful reader to ascertain I have listed only eight of the Unmade here. Lore is confident there were nine, an unholy number, asymmetrical and often associated with the enemy.

Page 307: If I’m correct and my research true, then the question remains. Who is the ninth Unmade? Is it truly Dai-Gonarthis? If so, could their actions have actually caused the complete destruction of Aimia?                                                                                                                                                                     

 

6. Eila Stele, translation

They came from another world, using powers that we have been forbidden to touch. Dangerous powers, of spren and Surges. They destroyed their lands and have come to us begging. We took them in, as commanded by the gods. What else could we do? They were a people forlorn, without a home. Our pity destroyed us. For their betrayal extended even to our gods: to spren, stone, and wind. Beware the otherworlders. The traitors. Those with tongues of sweetness, but with minds that lust for blood. Do not take them in. Do not give them succor. Well were they named Voidbringers, for they brought the void. The empty pit that sucks in emotion. A new god. Their god. These Voidbringers know no songs. They cannot hear Roshar, and where they go, they bring silence. They look soft, with no shell, but they are hard. They have but one heart, and it cannot ever live.

 

7. The Way of Kings, postscript

As I began my journey, I was challenged to defend why I insisted on travelling alone. They called it irresponsible. An avoidance of duty and obligation.

Those who said this made an enormous mistake of assumption. If the journey itself is indeed the most important piece, rather than the destination itself, then I travelled not to avoid duty -- but to seek it. It becomes the responsibility of every man, upon realizing he lacks the truth, to seek it out. Yes, I began my journey alone, and I ended it alone.

But that does not mean that I walked alone.

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[Twenty@20]

Random thought. Did the sphere which Gavilar gave Szeth hold Ba-Ado-Mishran? 

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[Jungah]

3 minutes ago, Twenty@20 said:

Random thought. Did the sphere which Gavilar gave Szeth held Ba-Ado-Mishran? 

I think it might have been Yelig-nar, and I don't think the spren has to be inside the gemstone...... does it? I'm pretty new to this whole theory thing.

 

edit: whoops i read that wrong. maybe? at this point i'm guessing on everything

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[Guybrud]

I think the section with the previous radiants is interesting, it shows how even back then the truthwatchers spren were being corrupted because one mentions seeing the future

[dvoraen]

5 hours ago, Twenty@20 said:

Random thought. Did the sphere which Gavilar gave Szeth hold Ba-Ado-Mishran? 

Likely not; most spheres are not perfect gems, which may be a condition required to hold one of the Unmade.  I suspect the size of the gemstone is relevant as well, which most spheres would likely fail on.  The spheres Gavilar had that he was giving out, were likely holding Voidlight he acquired from one of the Unmade.  Which one that was, is the real question.  It's quite possible he found Ba-Ado-Mishram and stored her perfect gemstone prison with his things, but it's just as possible he found one of the others still trapped as well.  Chemoarish is unaccounted for as well, after all.  Sja-anat and Dai-gonarthis are likely out and active.

It's just as likely that Gavilar found Ashertmarn or Yelig-nar, though.  I am honestly inclined to think he found Ashertmarn, though, because its appearance is rather sudden in Kholinar.  It's entirely possible he found more than one of the Unmade.  How does that explain the Voidlight spheres?  If Shadesmar spren have devices that can deposit Investiture into a perfect gem, then it's just as possible to withdraw it from one.  Navani said that Gavilar "made" it, and we know Nergaoul was shown to be made of Voidlight when he was captured, so, it stands to reason Gavilar could have snipped off a piece of Unmade Investiture into a sphere with some help from an artifabrian.

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[PhineasGage]

2 hours ago, Guybrud said:

I think the section with the previous radiants is interesting, it shows how even back then the truthwatchers spren were being corrupted because one mentions seeing the future

Now I'm not saying you are wrong, but I am  going to play devil's advocate. It is possible to foresee things without "seeing the future". If you have enough information, you can predict future outcomes. For example, if a Truthwatcher saw the truth of the current state of the division of the KR and understood the truth of Honour "changing" and knew the truth that surgebinding had effectively destroyed the previous world the human's had lived on, and knew the humans were invaders etc etc etc It is not so hard a leap to see that the decline of the KR was, basically, inevitable at that point. Indeed, a person would remember if they correctly predicted something, but forget if they didn't. I am not sure that this must make us assume that the Truthwatchers had been corrupted - it seems equally possible that they weren't in my mind. 

[ScavellTane]

Looks like the perfect gems of Celebrant belongs to the KR.

[Twenty@20]

2 hours ago, dvoraen said:

Likely not; most spheres are not perfect gems, which may be a condition required to hold one of the Unmade.  I suspect the size of the gemstone is relevant as well, which most spheres would likely fail on.  The spheres Gavilar had that he was giving out, were likely holding Voidlight he acquired from one of the Unmade.  Which one that was, is the real question.  It's quite possible he found Ba-Ado-Mishram and stored her perfect gemstone prison with his things, but it's just as possible he found one of the others still trapped as well.  Chemoarish is unaccounted for as well, after all.  Sja-anat and Dai-gonarthis are likely out and active.

It's just as likely that Gavilar found Ashertmarn or Yelig-nar, though.  I am honestly inclined to think he found Ashertmarn, though, because its appearance is rather sudden in Kholinar.  It's entirely possible he found more than one of the Unmade.  How does that explain the Voidlight spheres?  If Shadesmar spren have devices that can deposit Investiture into a perfect gem, then it's just as possible to withdraw it from one.  Navani said that Gavilar "made" it, and we know Nergaoul was shown to be made of Voidlight when he was captured, so, it stands to reason Gavilar could have snipped off a piece of Unmade Investiture into a sphere with some help from an artifabrian.

While I may be entirely incorrect in my amateur theory, I am going to put foward my train of thought. 

The part 3 epigraphs about truthwatchers provide a detailed account of how Ba-Ado-Mishran was responsible for forms of power and was providing voidlight to the Parshendi even after the last Desolation ended. She was captured by Melishi, the last Bondsmith probably similar to how Dalinar captured Nergaoul. This is also hinted at the WoR epigraph regarding Bondsmiths. Gavilar mentions to Eshonai in the prologue how “Our enslaved parshmen were once like you. Then we somehow robbed them of their ability to undergo the transformation. We did it by capturing a spren. An ancient, crucial spren.” This ancient spren seems to be Mishran. 

According to the essay about Mishran in Hessi's Mythica she is the commander and highprincess of Odium's army. The fact that she is out of commission during the crucial battles in OB may indicate she is still captive. 

If we assume that the sphere which Gavilar gave to Szeth had a captive Unmade (thats a big assumption, i admit I cannot rebut the voidlight theory; though to me the size of a gemstone doesnot seem to be important in capturing an Unmade, only that it should be flawless) then it is entirely possible that it was Ba-Ado-Mishran. Szeth could have hidden the sphere well enough to keep her out of action.

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[PhineasGage]

33 minutes ago, Twenty@20 said:

According to the essay about Mishran in Hessi's Mythica she is the commander and highprincess of Odium's army. The fact that she is out of commission during the crucial battles in OB may indicate she is still captive.

I may have misunderstood, but I got the impression that the black smoky spren that stayed near Odium the whole time at the Battle of Thaylen City was likely Mishran? We know that not all the cognitive shadows from Braize have awakened yet and perhaps there are some specific requirements for Mishran to manifest fully?

[+rhaiynebow]

One small correction to the OP:

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Page 231: Chemoarish, the Dustmother, has some of the most varied lore surrounding her. The wealth of it makes sorting lies from truths extremely difficult. I do not believe she is not the Nightwatcher, contrary to what some stories claim.

 

[RShara]

9 hours ago, dvoraen said:

Likely not; most spheres are not perfect gems, which may be a condition required to hold one of the Unmade.  I suspect the size of the gemstone is relevant as well, which most spheres would likely fail on.  The spheres Gavilar had that he was giving out, were likely holding Voidlight he acquired from one of the Unmade.  Which one that was, is the real question.  It's quite possible he found Ba-Ado-Mishram and stored her perfect gemstone prison with his things, but it's just as possible he found one of the others still trapped as well.  Chemoarish is unaccounted for as well, after all.  Sja-anat and Dai-gonarthis are likely out and active.

It's just as likely that Gavilar found Ashertmarn or Yelig-nar, though.  I am honestly inclined to think he found Ashertmarn, though, because its appearance is rather sudden in Kholinar.  It's entirely possible he found more than one of the Unmade.  How does that explain the Voidlight spheres?  If Shadesmar spren have devices that can deposit Investiture into a perfect gem, then it's just as possible to withdraw it from one.  Navani said that Gavilar "made" it, and we know Nergaoul was shown to be made of Voidlight when he was captured, so, it stands to reason Gavilar could have snipped off a piece of Unmade Investiture into a sphere with some help from an artifabrian.

I pointed out here that the gems in question are spherical, but are not spheres as in the Rosharan money.  They are described as crystalline spheres.

[Jungah]

3 hours ago, rhaiynebow said:

One small correction to the OP:

 

Thanks!

[Willow]

Another correction: I noticed you missed the epigraph for chapter 99: Reachers

Page 121: Nergaoul was known for driving forces into a battle rage, lending them great ferocity. Curiously, he did this to both sides of a conflict, Voidbringer and human. This seems common of the less self-aware spren.

[Jungah]

2 minutes ago, Willow said:

Another correction: I noticed you missed the epigraph for chapter 99: Reachers

Page 121: Nergaoul was known for driving forces into a battle rage, lending them great ferocity. Curiously, he did this to both sides of a conflict, Voidbringer and human. This seems common of the less self-aware spren.

Wow, I suck XP. Next time I'll compile this when I'm fully awake. Thanks!

[Willow]

Just now, Jungah said:

Wow, I suck XP. Next time I'll compile this when I'm fully awake. Thanks!

Honestly, it's such a massive amount of information, missing a few things is logical. Thank you for putting this all together.

[Jungah]

Just now, Willow said:

Honestly, it's such a massive amount of information, missing a few things is logical. Thank you for putting this all together.

No problem! Anything to procrastinate homework 

[Subvisual Haze]

Didn't Renarin at one point think there might be a pattern in the order of the gems?  I'm curious if that goes anywhere.

[Ryder]

8 hours ago, PhineasGage said:

I may have misunderstood, but I got the impression that the black smoky spren that stayed near Odium the whole time at the Battle of Thaylen City was likely Mishran? We know that not all the cognitive shadows from Braize have awakened yet and perhaps there are some specific requirements for Mishran to manifest fully?

I thought this was Yelig-nar, who then somehow uses the smokestone that Amaram swallows to possess him.

[PhineasGage]

3 minutes ago, Ryder said:

I thought this was Yelig-nar, who then somehow uses the smokestone that Amaram swallows to possess him.

Thats a perfectly reasonable idea. Did we see a similar situation with Aesudan or had she already swallowed Yelig-Nar when she gets on-stage? I'll go and look in a bit unless someone has a quick answer for me

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[The Invested Beard]

Aesudan had swallowed the gemstone when they found her in the palace. It was later revealed that she was unable to control Yelig-Nar and was consumed.

[Ryder]

One thing I noticed in the epigraphs is that we now know generally where Feverstone Keep was located.  Apparently it's near Rall Elorim, so it was probably somewhere in Iri.

[Andy92]

On November 19, 2017 at 9:00 PM, Jungah said:

As for Uli Da, it was obvious from the outset that she was going to be a problem. Good riddance.

 

On November 19, 2017 at 9:00 PM, Jungah said:

We also instruct that you should not return to Obrodai. We have claimed that world, and a new avatar of our being is beginning to manifest there.

Anyone have some insight on these two passages? I've read all of the Cosmere books (besides the Aether draft), but I didn't recognize the Uli Da or Obrodai references. I wondered if Uli Da had anything to do with Ambition, since it seems to be suggesting she's gone now. 

[Mulk]

2 minutes ago, Andy92 said:

 

Anyone have some insight on these two passages? I've read all of the Cosmere books (besides the Aether draft), but I didn't recognize the Uli Da or Obrodai references. I wondered if Uli Da had anything to do with Ambition, since it seems to be suggesting she's gone now. 

My guesses are Uli Da was Ambition and that Obrodai is a world we've not yet seen, but that's just completely off the top of my head.

[Andy92]

16 minutes ago, Mulk said:

My guesses are Uli Da was Ambition and that Obrodai is a world we've not yet seen, but that's just completely off the top of my head.

That was the two conclusions I came up with. I figured if anyone knew more that this would be the place lol. 

[Bernem]

47 minutes ago, Andy92 said:

That was the two conclusions I came up with. I figured if anyone knew more that this would be the place lol.

It is also discussed here, and they came to the same conclusion.

@Jungah Thank you for assembling this list! I only have the book as audio, which makes it harder to go back and review the epigraphs at a glance. I'm sure I'll come back to this thread many times to reread them.

Looking back at the Oathbringer preface, it makes me wonder how Adolin and Renarin will react when they found out Dalinar killed their mother. How soon before releasing the book will Dalinar tell them?