WeiryWriter Posted November 14, 2017 Report Share Posted November 14, 2017 So probably the worst part of being a beta reader is not being able join in public discussion because you know stuff that relates which can’t be divulged. I ran into this earlier this year when people were proposing “Wisdom” as the Intent of the Shard that wants to hide and survive. It was an idea I had had as well, but I couldn’t talk about it because it was founded on a line from Oathbringer. In Chapter 68, Hoid has the following line: Quote I am not one of those, for wisdom and I have always been at cross-purposes, and I have yet to learn the tongue in which she speaks. Now it’s entirely Hoid is just being Hoid here and just philosophizing to frustrate Shallan. But I also would not put it past Hoid to make an off-hand reference to a Shard that only he would understand. We actually see this in Words of Radiance when Hoid talks about how there is only one woman his age in these parts. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstSelector Posted November 17, 2017 Report Share Posted November 17, 2017 This is clever and is totally something Hoid would do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athalwen Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 That was the first thing I thought as well. However, I'd also note that wisdom wasn't capitalized in that line, and as far as I can remember the names of the Shards have always been capitalized, even when it's just a name-drop. If there is a Shard called Wisdom, I'd guess that he's not talking about him/her directly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ytsken Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 There's another quote in OB that suggests this as well... when Dalinar and the Stormfather are talking about Cultivation "... normally she hides. Cowardice" "Perhaps wisdom", Dalinar said. Could this be an in-joke by Sanderson by having smart tactican Dalinar refer to a Shard in hiding as Wisdom? Or is this a red herring? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teknopathetic Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 (edited) Interesting that 'Cowardice' is capitalized in a fashion that doesn't give us any clues. Cowardice would be a hilarious shard (I know the hiding shard isn't supposed to be something so obviously guessable, but still). Wisdom did stand out to me, but as an Audio-listener I wasn't sure about the capitalization. I wonder how long it will be before we visit the Aethers (since a certain someone was cleaning off aether fluid from a world hopper's vestments). I can't wait to see how they've changed. Edited November 20, 2017 by teknopathetic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emailanimal Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 5 hours ago, teknopathetic said: I wonder how long it will be before we visit the Aethers (since a certain someone was cleaning off aether fluid from a world hopper's vestments). I can't wait to see how they've changed. I had a theory that Letter #2 was from the Aether Shard(s), but that got squashed. Wisdom always looked like a good Intent for a Shard to me. Not necessarily the one that just wants to survive, although would not be surprised either. None of the Shards we've seen thus far have Intents that have anything to do with ... you know, intelligence, knowledge, learning, reason, thinking. Adonalsium being an overarching deity must have had some Intents inside him to deal with this. So, Wisdom and Hoid being at cross-purposes is not really that strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yata Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) 14 hours ago, emailanimal said: I had a theory that Letter #2 was from the Aether Shard(s), but that got squashed. Letter2's Shard is mostly Autonomy as she is actually the only possible candidate Edited November 21, 2017 by Yata Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emailanimal Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 Just now, Yata said: Letter2's Shard is mostly Endowment as she is actually the only possible candidate I thought the consensus was that Letter 2 were some of Bavadins, and Letter 1 - Endowment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yata Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 11 minutes ago, emailanimal said: I thought the consensus was that Letter 2 were some of Bavadins, and Letter 1 - Endowment? I edited the previous message, I switched the Letters in my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emailanimal Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) 1 minute ago, Yata said: I edited the previous message, I switched the Letters in my mind. Ok. This makes sense. Edited November 21, 2017 by emailanimal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainier Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 So the shard is Wisdom? Discretion is the better part of valor, and all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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