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Is Alcatraz Smedry a Hero or Not?

Is Alcatraz Smedry a Hero or Not?   38 members have voted

  1. 1. Is Alcatraz Smedry a Hero? Or is he a terrible person as he claims?

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I haven't finished all the books yet, so there could be things that make this poll irrelevant. But in your personal opinion, do you think Alcatraz Smedry is a terrible person as he repeatedly argues, or do you think he is a hero in spite of his flaws?

 

Also, why's it so storming quiet in this thread?

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Just curious, how far are you in the series?

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Protagonist, yes. He is the main character, after all. Hero, no. I' think I'd save that title for another character in the series. Terrible person...... Maybe. You'll understand once you finish The Dark Talent.

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22 hours ago, Ecthelion III said:

Just curious, how far are you in the series?

Apparently not far enough... :) 

I think the middle of the third book.

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He's a short-sighted, emotional, self-conscious idiot desperate for his family's approval. But so is every teenager I know.

I think he tries to be a hero. He's just really, really bad at it. Sure, he's made mistakes. A lot. And gotten people killed. But he's never killed anyone himself, only allowed it to happen through his incompetence. He tries to help others, but sometimes his self-preservation instincts distract him.

Also, if it's any excuse, he had a lousy childhood, is ravaged by the Dark Talent and his life got flipped turned upside down by the Librarians. 

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He... tries. I think that might be the important part?

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Technically, yes. Really, no. After all, the dictionary definition of "hero" is simply someone who is looked up to and admired, regardless of whether they deserve such attention. Based on the premise of the series, Alcatraz seems to fit the bill. In the popular interpretation of "hero", I'd say no, not because of any particular flaw or mistake, but because he wallows in his failures instead of trying to fix them. 

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Well as of right now, I don't think so because of the actions at the end of The Dark Talent ( which made me cry* for like 10 mins ) but I will hold my judgement until I read the final book.+

 



* this is a footnote lol anyway I meant bawl like the world was ending

+RUTABEGA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 



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So alcatraz is deffinently a terrible person because the events that will happen in the 6th book happened before he started writing any of them.He wrote with the intent of only writing 5 books and he wanted to cause us all the pain. 

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This is a really tough question.  Altogether, I think it boils down to him being... Neither.

He is a kid that tries to do what is right, just like most people.  But he only tries when things are convenient, have no repercussions, or is being pushed by his heroic family. 

Spoiler

 

When things come down to the wire and he is truly pushed:

he gives up, takes the easy road. The coward's path.  That is not something a true hero would do. If I had to pick one person to be a true hero in these series, it would either be Bastille or the grandfather.  Even Alcatraz's father would come into consideration.

 

There is a LOT that happens in these books.  If you have not read each one in the series so far, you are missing a LOT of crucial information about who each of these characters are.

 

...Speaking of which, I really need to reread the series as I haven't read it since "The Dark Talent" came out... : )

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I say he is a terrible person. But I also say that about most people...

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I kinda wanted to put in my two cents on this. I think that Alcatraz wallows in his guilt over that one single action. He has this image of what a hero is that includes someone perfect, someone who would gladly give themselves up for someone else. When he failed some of his internal criteria, he mentally assigned the label "Not a hero" and since everybody viewed him as one anyways, he decided he was a terrible person, since he knew he wasn't the person they thought he was. But when it came down to it, he did try very hard to succeed in doing the right thing. He failed (or at least it seems like he did), which he added into the label of "Not a hero." I don't think he meets the expectations he sets for himself to be a hero, but I think that he qualifies anyways. Heroes are allowed to make mistakes.

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He's a hero.

Yeah.

In the end, Alcatraz does what needs to be done. He finishes the job, loves his family, and yes, makes mistakes, but nobody's perfect.

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Yes, after reading the Dark Talent, I would definitely say Alcatraz is a terrible person. However, that might change after the next book...

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On 11/16/2018 at 10:14 AM, Jruesch2 said:

Yes, after reading the Dark Talent, I would definitely say Alcatraz is a terrible person. However, that might change after the next book...

I wouldn't say he's terrible but certainly not the best. 

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I'd say for a 13 year-old boy, he did pretty well.

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I think the point Brandon is trying to make with Alcatraz is that being a hero isn't about what you can do, but about what you choose to do. Kind of like Chamber of Secrets' lesson. For most of the books, I feel like Alcatraz's arc is failing until he succeeds, which is a fairly heroic thing. It's how all stories work. I just feel like Alcatraz also sometimes succeeds in the wrong way, kind of like how his Talent will do everything he wants it to until it doesn't.

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