CancerPuppy Posted October 22, 2017 Report Share Posted October 22, 2017 Ok, is no one going to question whether or not that woman is even a Dustbringer? She didn't really do much but summon a blade, right? I want to know more now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderis Posted October 22, 2017 Report Share Posted October 22, 2017 3 minutes ago, CancerPuppy said: Ok, is no one going to question whether or not that woman is even a Dustbringer? She didn't really do much but summon a blade, right? I want to know more now! And what would she be otherwise? Suggesting she has an Honorblade requires for more explanation than her having a spren, and a dead blade won't open the gate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starla Posted October 22, 2017 Report Share Posted October 22, 2017 I wonder how annoyed Shallan's brothers are going to be when they arrive at Urithiru via the Narak oathgate, having traveled halfway across Roshar for weeks, through the weeping, everstorms, and highstorms, only to drive to find the Vedenar oathgate open? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CancerPuppy Posted October 22, 2017 Report Share Posted October 22, 2017 4 minutes ago, Calderis said: And what would she be otherwise? Suggesting she has an Honorblade requires for more explanation than her having a spren, and a dead blade won't open the gate. I suppose it seemed too convenient to me. Guess I'm just concerned about Taravangian's motives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kari-no-sugata Posted October 22, 2017 Report Share Posted October 22, 2017 6 minutes ago, Starla said: I wonder how annoyed Shallan's brothers are going to be when they arrive at Urithiru via the Narak oathgate, having traveled halfway across Roshar for weeks, through the weeping, everstorms, and highstorms, only to drive to find the Vedenar oathgate open? Well, the Vedenar Oathgate isn't currently open for general use, so it might well not be viable for them for now anyway. Personally... I'm expecting them to take a route that would probably go through (or near) Kholinar. I've wondered if Kaladin might just bump into them. He managed to bump into Shallan in the middle of nowhere after all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScavellTane Posted October 22, 2017 Report Share Posted October 22, 2017 1 minute ago, kari-no-sugata said: Well, the Vedenar Oathgate isn't currently open for general use, so it might well not be viable for them for now anyway. Personally... I'm expecting them to take a route that would probably go through (or near) Kholinar. I've wondered if Kaladin might just bump into them. He managed to bump into Shallan in the middle of nowhere after all... Kaladins around northern Alethkar near Kholinar, the Davars would just cut through southern Alethkar to get to the Shattered Plains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starla Posted October 22, 2017 Report Share Posted October 22, 2017 8 minutes ago, kari-no-sugata said: Well, the Vedenar Oathgate isn't currently open for general use, so it might well not be viable for them for now anyway. Personally... I'm expecting them to take a route that would probably go through (or near) Kholinar. I've wondered if Kaladin might just bump into them. He managed to bump into Shallan in the middle of nowhere after all... I bet Taravangian would let Shallan bring them through if she asked. Or does she need to ask? She can go through any oathgate any time she wants. The bros have been traveling for a few weeks, so I imagine they've reached the shattered plains by now unless they ran into problems along the way, like the mysterious caravans that went missing in Alethkar. I'm curious if they're traveling on their own or with Ghostblood escorts. I'm guessing the Ghostbloods would want to keep an eye on them they may have guards. Either way, I'm looking forward to their reunion with Shallan, and seeing their reaction to her new status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kari-no-sugata Posted October 22, 2017 Report Share Posted October 22, 2017 34 minutes ago, ScavellTane said: Kaladins around northern Alethkar near Kholinar, the Davars would just cut through southern Alethkar to get to the Shattered Plains. It's rather hard to tell where exactly the estates are. When Shallan tried to send a letter to her brothers in WoR, she sent the main one through Valath (which is to the west of the Horneater peaks and about half-way up the country) and another from Northgrip which is in the far north. So I would guess that the estates are more towards the north of the country, and probably at least west of the Horneater peaks. If so, I think they would travel through the north-ish part of Alethkar and going through Kholinar would be a reasonable route to take. In addition, with the civil war going on, they would want to avoid the south of the country unless they were certain that the fighting was over when they set out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScavellTane Posted October 22, 2017 Report Share Posted October 22, 2017 I guess that would depend when the Ghostbloods took them. Ghostbloods probably took them when the war was still active and they were probably sent to 'safety' but not necessarily towards the Shattered Plains. Mraize discovered Veil's identity during the march towards Narak and the order to move Shallan's brothers would have been sent after their confrontation in Urithiru. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent34 Posted October 22, 2017 Report Share Posted October 22, 2017 5 hours ago, scifan said: Wait... Shardblades are "dead" spren. If Nightblood's exactly the same thing as a shard blade, then by definition, he's a spren. But he's not "dead"... so I'm so confused... Nightblood's an artificial Shardblade, a "robot spren." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steeldancer Posted October 22, 2017 Report Share Posted October 22, 2017 11 minutes ago, Agent34 said: Nightblood's an artificial Shardblade, a "robot spren." Why didn't I think of this before? Do Robot Spren dream of Robot Exhaustionspren? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soyperson Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 I wonder when Jasnah and Hoid are going to show up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Invested Beard Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 17 hours ago, Agent34 said: Nightblood's an artificial Shardblade, a "robot spren." I like to think of him as Artificial Intelligence spren. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lidolas Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 17 hours ago, Agent34 said: Nightblood's an artificial Shardblade, a "robot spren." Also, there are a handful of Shardblades that aren't dead. Syl, Pattern, Wyndle, Glys, Ivory, etc. and bound to be plenty more arriving in future books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soyperson Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 40 minutes ago, Lidolas said: Also, there are a handful of Shardblades that aren't dead. Syl, Pattern, Wyndle, Glys, Ivory, etc. and bound to be plenty more arriving in future books. And, if Taravangian is to be believed, Malata's Dustbringer spren. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackYeti Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 4 minutes ago, bleeder said: And, if Taravangian is to be believed, Malata's Dustbringer spren. Unless it actually is an Honourblade, in which case it's a Shardblade that isn't actually a spren at all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Invested Beard Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, BlackYeti said: Unless it actually is an Honourblade, in which case it's a Shardblade that isn't actually a spren at all! I really don't think it's an honorblade. They would have somehow had to get it away from the Shin, which doesn't seem likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackYeti Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 4 minutes ago, The Invested Beard said: I really don't think it's an honorblade. They would have somehow had to get it away from the Shin, which doesn't seem likely. I agree with you. I was just trying to make the point, in a roundabout fashion, that not all Shardblades are spren, and thus the issue regarding whether Shardblades can be living spren as well as dead spren (which they obviously can be), is rather redundant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteLeeopard Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 This was a really random and completely baseless thought I had while reading the chapters, and the two lines dedicated to Malata. But for some reason I got the impression that Shallan may be as understimated as a Radiant as she has been her whole life. Yes she was one of the first, and saved many lives, but it was still a feeling. Maybe because anyone looking at Shallan would never dream of the things she has done at her tender age. Specially considering she projects a naive and very innocent facade. When I finished WoR I thought she might shed that image around Radiants, but after reading the sample chapters of OB...I'm more of the impression that she will continue embracing her naivety to continue making her illusions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asrael Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 ONE MORE SLEEP TILL OATHBRINGER!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMnke Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 Tomorrow Tomorrow there's always tomorrow.... Its only a daaaaaay aaaa waaaaaay Yeah I've got it bad .... i need my Tuesday fix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flying_shadow Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 Less than 12 hours until the next chapters! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Invested Beard Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 I'm almost tempted to go to bed early so the time passes more quickly. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kari-no-sugata Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 The weekly highstorm is approaching... Bit hard to guess what we might get this time. There's surely one more Dalinar flashback coming soon - it might come up in the next 3 but maybe it'll make more sense for it to come out closer to the end? Hard to say. There's 8 chapters left to go and I think we'll only get 1 more Kaladin chapter - it feels like his storyline is going to go quiet for a while. The last chapter didn't exactly end on a cliffhanger and it doesn't feel like the next chapter will follow on directly. I think we'll see either the end of the conference or a retrospective of it set later in the day. Will Shallan get involved at all during or after the conference since she's from Jah Keved? Would seem unlikely that she's completely absent but maybe it's not significant enough to get a real time perspective? Given that Dalinar's chapter ended with a lot of introspection about his role, I've also wondered if he might ask Shallan what her real and honest perspective of the Alethi is (rather than other people), but perhaps not since it seems he realises that they're seen as aggressive conquerors. Will we see any progress on the murder investigations? Will Amaram himself show up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steeldancer Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 Behold, a storm of upvotes cometh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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