Harakeke Posted October 8, 2017 Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 (edited) I'm working on revamping my women's script primer pages and would like to include some cool sentences for folks to practice their penmanship with. Can anyone compose a ketek that includes every letter in the Alethi alphabet? This includes Th, Sh, and Ch, but not necessarily X, Q, W, or C. Quote A ketek is a form of holy Vorin poetry which reads the same forward and backward (allowing for changes in verb form), and is also divisible into five sections, each of which also expresses a complete thought. For example: Above silence, the illuminating storms—dying storms—illuminate the silence above. Alight, winds approach deadly approaching winds alight. The best ketek(s) will be immortalized in the Translation Guide, plus I'll write it out in the women's script for you! Edited October 8, 2017 by Harakeke 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegatorgirl00 Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 It doesn't make a lot of sense, and is sort of questionable as a ketek since I switched from adjective to adverb a few times. It does use all the letters, though. Buzzing thunderously stops To avoid chafing my shots jokingly healing joking shots My chafing avoids To stop thunderous buzzing 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velvet Thunder Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 (edited) I tried for 20 mins to come up with a great one.. instead could only think of a short one about Honor, Cultivation and Odium which the Vorin religion would probably call heresy but none the less. Two were reigning gods Until peace ended and war The violent third Violent the war and ended peace Until gods reigning were two. Edited October 9, 2017 by Velvet Thunder 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegatorgirl00 Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 I might try another one. @Harakeke, if I do, would it be better to not use q, w, x, or c at all or it's okay to use them but not necessary? For the first ketek I did, I chose to avoid them altogether, but that came at the expense of ketek meaning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harakeke Posted October 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 4 hours ago, thegatorgirl00 said: I might try another one. @Harakeke, if I do, would it be better to not use q, w, x, or c at all or it's okay to use them but not necessary? For the first ketek I did, I chose to avoid them altogether, but that came at the expense of ketek meaning. It's OK to use them - they're just written using other letters. For example, the English word "cowpox" would be written "KOUPOKS" in the women's script. (And that's using the simple Navani-style transliteration method. Jasnah-style phonetic transliteration gets even trickier.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegatorgirl00 Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 2 hours ago, Harakeke said: It's OK to use them - they're just written using other letters. For example, the English word "cowpox" would be written "KOUPOKS" in the women's script. (And that's using the simple Navani-style transliteration method. Jasnah-style phonetic transliteration gets even trickier.) Is it okay to account for this in my letter usage? Like instead of using a k, using a word that contains a hard c? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harakeke Posted October 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 2 hours ago, thegatorgirl00 said: Is it okay to account for this in my letter usage? Like instead of using a k, using a word that contains a hard c? Sure - the goal is to have a sentence that uses each symbol in the women's script so that folks can practice their writing. Please don't post Oathbringer spoilers. I'm waiting to read the book when it comes out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderis Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 52 minutes ago, Harakeke said: Sure - the goal is to have a sentence that uses each symbol in the women's script so that folks can practice their writing. Please don't post Oathbringer spoilers. I'm waiting to read the book when it comes out. I have been trying to come up with something that isn't nonsense and for the life of me I'm failing... A Ketek is complex in itself. Add in all the letters and I'm coming up with nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harakeke Posted October 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 (edited) Great work so far! Here are some quick-and-dirty transcriptions. 20 hours ago, thegatorgirl00 said: Buzzing thunderously stops To avoid chafing my shots jokingly healing joking shots My chafing avoids To stop thunderous buzzing 13 hours ago, Velvet Thunder said: Two were reigning gods Until peace ended and war The violent third Violent the war and ended peace Until gods reigning were two. Here's my own contribution, although I'm not particularly happy with the last stanza: Quote Spren of honor, keep clear / Each judge my radiant vow / Before this ash and haze and ash / This before vowing, Radiant my judge / Each clear keep, honoring of spren. This ketek, attributed to the Heraldic Epoch poet Harakekarah, was purportedly inspired by the last desperate assault against voidbringer strongholds during the Final Desolation. See page 82 of Shadows Remembered and note the undertext. Edited October 9, 2017 by Harakeke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderis Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 Radiant Knights striking justly/Denying cowardly Heralds Betrayal/Zealous and frightening champion Taln/Champions fright and zeal/Betraying heraldic cowards/Denying just striking Knights Radiant. Best I got and I still feel like it's subpar. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegatorgirl00 Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 (edited) Thanks for the translation! It looks cool, especially the word my. Quote Foggy everlasting haze of injustice Broken by shattered oaths Much perfidy Much oaths shattered by breaking Injustice of hazy everlasting fog This ketek is inspired by the plight of the spren killed in the Recreance. Speculation on what being kind of dead feels like. Edited October 10, 2017 by thegatorgirl00 Make ketek better 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harakeke Posted October 11, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2017 Keteks are hard, but these are looking great! On 10/9/2017 at 6:25 PM, Calderis said: Radiant Knights striking justly/Denying cowardly Heralds Betrayal/Zealous and frightening champion Taln/Champions fright and zeal/Betraying heraldic cowards/Denying just striking Knights Radiant. On 10/9/2017 at 7:46 PM, thegatorgirl00 said: Foggy everlasting haze of injustice Broken by shattered oaths Much perfidyMuch oaths shattered by breakingInjustice of hazy everlasting fog And because I couldn't help myself... It really is a beautiful ketek though! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knghtstlker Posted October 11, 2017 Report Share Posted October 11, 2017 Those are awesome, but how are people putting these on the computers.... haha! Is there a Word don’t or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegatorgirl00 Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 @Harakeke, do you have an idea when you will be updating the translation guide with the chosen ketek? Are you planning on doing it before or after Oathbringer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harakeke Posted October 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 Kinda swamped IRL, but I hope to have it up before Oathbringer hits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gecko Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 What we need to do is create a keyboard or font that creates this for us. That way we can write in Alethi everywhere online. Perhaps use it to scan out crowds for Cosmere-Awares and Sharders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knghtstlker Posted October 26, 2017 Report Share Posted October 26, 2017 Highstorms Cleanse. The Everstorm Comes. Shattering Desolations. Shattering, Comes Everstorms. The Cleansing Highstorms. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avus Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 I really like Velvet Thunder's! Makes the most sense to me and flows nicely. Have an upvote, my peep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avus Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 Soul imprisoned, and heart craves death, while death craves heart and imprisoned soul. --Kaladin at the Honor Chasm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalbusker Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 Just wanted to say that this thread should have been titled "Ketek Challenge: Challenging Keteks". 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc12 Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 Divine touches creating beauty, men inspiring to write to inspire men - beauty creating, touching divinity. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narcoleptic Axolotl Posted February 28, 2018 Report Share Posted February 28, 2018 I had to write a few poems for school, and though "Why not make keteks?" They're based on a chapter in Cry, the Beloved Country, not anything about Brandon Sanderson. I'm pretty proud of these, considering the amount of time I spent on them. Service in church, come all bereft, all come, church in service. Speaking, people shake hands, funeral, hands shake, people speaking. Myself forgotten, I sincerely listen. Sincerely, I forgot myself. "Look," they said. "Is it death?" It is said. They look. Just remember. Doesn't seem able. Seemingly doesn't remember justice. Struggle: Christianity of men versus men of Christ struggling 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ILuvHats Posted March 6, 2018 Report Share Posted March 6, 2018 That’s actually cool I read Beloved just a month ago, and I really liked it. Never thought I’d see a reference to it on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hempknight Posted March 30, 2018 Report Share Posted March 30, 2018 (edited) Some of these are brilliant. I really like gattorgirls. Here's my attempt I was pretty chuffed with haha. Odium's wicked weather, Roshar divided. Unite Radiants. Unite divided Roshar, Weather wicked Odium Edited March 30, 2018 by Hempknight 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoids humjob Posted March 30, 2018 Report Share Posted March 30, 2018 (edited) "Radiants abound, to live brings honour—eternally—honour brings life to, a bound radiant" Collected on the fifth day of the week of Chach of the month of March of the year 2018, 16 seconds before death. Subject was a dark eyed labourer of thirty years of age. Edited March 30, 2018 by Hoids humjob Thought I’d spruce it up a bit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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