Toaster Retribution Posted August 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2017 I definitely agree with @Aciilnt Stormblessed about Tyrion, and @Idealistic about Davos. Both are awesome. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the winter system Posted August 30, 2017 Report Share Posted August 30, 2017 Who's the character you hate most? Not like "I don't like their character written" but most morally despicable. I guess I'll go with. 1. Ramsey Bolton (Duh) 2. Joffrey 3. Tywin, probably 4. The Mountain 5. Robert Baratheon (Okay, this one isn't really justified, I just hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate the dead guy so much.) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aciilnt Stormblessed Posted August 30, 2017 Report Share Posted August 30, 2017 I totally agree with @winter devotion, especially with Ramsey and Joffrey, I hate them with a burning passion. Although, I don't really care about Robert Baratheon. Also I'm not sure how to feel about Jamie. I want to like him but then I start thinking about it and remember him pushing a kid of a tower and decide i probably shouldn't. Anyone want to convince me one way or another? (bearing in mind I've only watched the first five seasons of the show and read none of the books - though I'd don't mind being spoiled for anything only book-related as long as it's not something really major.) I really liked the scene in season 5 where... Spoiler After "rescuing" Myrcella he talks to her about him and Cersei (though she already knows) This is kinda ruined however by her dying but before that it was a really nice sweet scene. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the winter system Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 1 hour ago, Aciilnt Stormblessed said: I totally agree with @winter devotion, especially with Ramsey and Joffrey, I hate them with a burning passion. Although, I don't really care about Robert Baratheon. Also I'm not sure how to feel about Jamie. I want to like him but then I start thinking about it and remember him pushing a kid of a tower and decide i probably shouldn't. Anyone want to convince me one way or another? (bearing in mind I've only watched the first five seasons of the show and read none of the books - though I'd don't mind being spoiled for anything only book-related as long as it's not something really major.) I really liked the scene in season 5 where... Hide contents After "rescuing" Myrcella he talks to her about him and Cersei (though she already knows) This is kinda ruined however by her dying but before that it was a really nice sweet scene. He's a jerk? Also Cersei. Gross. So bad. Robert hit Cersei and let her know how much he hated her. Seriously, jerk move. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aciilnt Stormblessed Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 Ok, yeah I'll probably have to let you win with Jamie, tbh i don't know why i like him. Also i agree Robert was a jerk, it's just when compared with the other people on your list he just kind of eh. He's not a nice person by any means but he's nowhere near the worst person on the show. Also, I guess I don't hate him as much because he wasn't really horrible to any characters that i actually really liked, where as I love Sansa and she was treated terribly by both Ramsey and Joffrey and Tyrion (my favorite character) was treated badly by Tywin and also Joffrey. This means that I hate those 3 but given that I don't like Cersei I don't hate Robert that much. That said, I don't disagree with what you're saying. Sorry if none of that made sense, it's almost 2am where I live and I should probably go to sleep. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oversleep Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 13 hours ago, winter devotion said: Dalinar would have a... bad time. Young Dalinar would have conquered the whole continent in months though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toaster Retribution Posted August 31, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 Most hated would be: 1. The Mountain 2. Joffrey 3. Ramsay 4. Viserys Targaryen 5. Janos Slynt @Aciilnt Stormblessed I like Jaime. He is trying to become a better man, which appeals to me. He is able to see what is good, and what is bad, and tries to keep to the good. I also love how everybody hates him for his most heroic action, and I find him extremely funny in later books. The best Jaime scene is in the books, when he reads his entry in the Kingsguard-book, written by other people. He thinks that since he is the one in charge of the Kingsguard now, he will have to write himself, and he can write whatever he wants. @Oversleep I doubt Dalinar would have conquered everything. He was a great warrior, but a terrible tactician. The likes of Robb Stark or Tywin Lannister would crush his forces and kill him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the winter system Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 5 hours ago, Toaster Retribution said: Most hated would be: 1. The Mountain 2. Joffrey 3. Ramsay 4. Viserys Targaryen 5. Janos Slynt @Aciilnt Stormblessed I like Jaime. He is trying to become a better man, which appeals to me. He is able to see what is good, and what is bad, and tries to keep to the good. I also love how everybody hates him for his most heroic action, and I find him extremely funny in later books. The best Jaime scene is in the books, when he reads his entry in the Kingsguard-book, written by other people. He thinks that since he is the one in charge of the Kingsguard now, he will have to write himself, and he can write whatever he wants. @Oversleep I doubt Dalinar would have conquered everything. He was a great warrior, but a terrible tactician. The likes of Robb Stark or Tywin Lannister would crush his forces and kill him. But does he have shardplate? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the winter system Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 5 hours ago, Toaster Retribution said: Most hated would be: 1. The Mountain 2. Joffrey 3. Ramsay 4. Viserys Targaryen 5. Janos Slynt @Aciilnt Stormblessed I like Jaime. He is trying to become a better man, which appeals to me. He is able to see what is good, and what is bad, and tries to keep to the good. I also love how everybody hates him for his most heroic action, and I find him extremely funny in later books. The best Jaime scene is in the books, when he reads his entry in the Kingsguard-book, written by other people. He thinks that since he is the one in charge of the Kingsguard now, he will have to write himself, and he can write whatever he wants. @Oversleep I doubt Dalinar would have conquered everything. He was a great warrior, but a terrible tactician. The likes of Robb Stark or Tywin Lannister would crush his forces and kill him. But does he have shardplate? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oversleep Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 37 minutes ago, winter devotion said: But does he have shardplate? If he does, he conquers the whole world. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toaster Retribution Posted August 31, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 23 minutes ago, Oversleep said: If he does, he conquers the whole world. I doubt it. Shardplate cant handle too much damage, and I doubt you could regrow it in Westeros considering lack of Stormlight. Dalinar can't take thousands of Parshendi along with Adolin and some soldiers. I doubt he could handle several hundred thousand men, along with dragons, wights, White Walkers and the Nights King. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oversleep Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 9 minutes ago, Toaster Retribution said: I doubt it. Shardplate cant handle too much damage, and I doubt you could regrow it in Westeros considering lack of Stormlight. Dalinar can't take thousands of Parshendi along with Adolin and some soldiers. I doubt he could handle several hundred thousand men, along with dragons, wights, White Walkers and the Nights King. The initial impression would get him to be considered a god or something like that. And frankly just a Shardblade would accomplish that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toaster Retribution Posted August 31, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 12 minutes ago, Oversleep said: The initial impression would get him to be considered a god or something like that. And frankly just a Shardblade would accomplish that. Yeah, they would defenitely be scared. However, they have seen White Walkers, they have seen dragons, I think can see, and fight Dalinar too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oversleep Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 30 minutes ago, Toaster Retribution said: Yeah, they would defenitely be scared. However, they have seen White Walkers, they have seen dragons, I think can see, and fight Dalinar too. Now they have seen dragons and Others. But at the time of the War of the Five Kings? Robert's rebellion? Last Targaryens? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toaster Retribution Posted August 31, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 3 minutes ago, Oversleep said: Now they have seen dragons and Others. But at the time of the War of the Five Kings? Robert's rebellion? Last Targaryens? I assumed you meant to put Dalinar there now, not before. And even if he was in Westeros earlier, he'd probably get killed anyways. I doubt people would just roll over and give up even if they were scared. Then there is always the possibility of someone taking him out like Kaladin killed Helaran. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the winter system Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 What about vice versa? Someone like Cersei in Alethkar. She'd probably end up befriending or killing Sadeas. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aciilnt Stormblessed Posted September 1, 2017 Report Share Posted September 1, 2017 (edited) I'd love to see an interaction between Cersei and Sadeas, and Wit actually. Edited September 1, 2017 by Aciilnt Stormblessed 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toaster Retribution Posted September 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2017 I think the combination of Tyrion and Wit would be fabulous. I'd like to see Stannis and the Highprinces too. He'd have zero patience with them. Would be awesome. And the Nights King would probably bond with Odium. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge4 Posted September 1, 2017 Report Share Posted September 1, 2017 11 minutes ago, Toaster Retribution said: I think the combination of Tyrion and Wit would be fabulous. I'd like to see Stannis and the Highprinces too. He'd have zero patience with them. Would be awesome. And the Nights King would probably bond with Odium. Awesome post. Stannis and the high princess would be hilarious Wit reminds me so much of wit from farseer. I wish they could team up and harass people across tons of fiction 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toaster Retribution Posted September 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2017 6 minutes ago, bridge4 said: Wit reminds me so much of wit from farseer. I wish they could team up and harass people across tons of fiction Haven't read Farseer, but this sounds sweet. I'd love to see Wit travelling across fiction and annoying everyone. Come to think of it, Stannis would be hilarious there too. He'd have zero patience for Wit as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge4 Posted September 1, 2017 Report Share Posted September 1, 2017 2 hours ago, Toaster Retribution said: Haven't read Farseer, but this sounds sweet. I'd love to see Wit travelling across fiction and annoying everyone. Come to think of it, Stannis would be hilarious there too. He'd have zero patience for Wit as well. im such a bad farseer fan. the dudes name is "fool." i think he's called "the king's wit" also tho. i might be wrong. but he is really smart and hilarious just like wit in SA im taking it back tho. you doubled down and you are so right. all we need is SAs Wit + Stannis traveling around together picture stannis with hobbits LOL 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toaster Retribution Posted September 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 9 hours ago, bridge4 said: im such a bad farseer fan. the dudes name is "fool." i think he's called "the king's wit" also tho. i might be wrong. but he is really smart and hilarious just like wit in SA im taking it back tho. you doubled down and you are so right. all we need is SAs Wit + Stannis traveling around together picture stannis with hobbits LOL Haha! Wonder how Stannis would react to secobd breakfast? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelEy3 Posted September 2, 2017 Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 13 hours ago, bridge4 said: im such a bad farseer fan. the dudes name is "fool." i think he's called "the king's wit" also tho. i might be wrong. but he is really smart and hilarious just like wit in SA im taking it back tho. you doubled down and you are so right. all we need is SAs Wit + Stannis traveling around together picture stannis with hobbits LOL Patches has to come with too... Oh oh.. You know. Oh oh oh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toaster Retribution Posted September 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 Is there by the way anyone who thinks that characters are better in the show than the books or vice versa? Here are mine: Better in books: -Stannis: The show took away a lot of his complexity, and made him a fanatic. -Jaime Lannister: He is funnier, and he develops better. In the show he is just Cerseis man for an extremely long time. -Roose Bolton: He feels dangerous in the books, like the Norths version of Tywin. The show makes him look quite weak. Better in show: -Bronn: More screen-time, more great lines. -Beric Dondarrion: Looks incredibly badchull as well as a longer and more fitting storyline. -Tywin Lannister: Guy was great in the books, but Charles Dance is a phenomenal actor who took Tywin to new levels. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge4 Posted September 2, 2017 Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Toaster Retribution said: Is there by the way anyone who thinks that characters are better in the show than the books or vice versa? Here are mine: Better in books: -Stannis: The show took away a lot of his complexity, and made him a fanatic. -Jaime Lannister: He is funnier, and he develops better. In the show he is just Cerseis man for an extremely long time. -Roose Bolton: He feels dangerous in the books, like the Norths version of Tywin. The show makes him look quite weak. Better in show: -Bronn: More screen-time, more great lines. -Beric Dondarrion: Looks incredibly badchull as well as a longer and more fitting storyline. -Tywin Lannister: Guy was great in the books, but Charles Dance is a phenomenal actor who took Tywin to new levels. oberyn was always cool. but pedro pascal really brought him to life for me book Areo Hotah is 100000x better than show. nothing against the actor. just the plot he was given unfortunately. the actor had me pumped for some big scenes. then boom. dagger Edited September 2, 2017 by bridge4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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