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12 minutes ago, Extesian said:

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My first thought was that the aura doesn't show off Nalthis but I can't find anything to support it. My head Canon was that Nalthis itself represents investiture saturation as heightened color. But that may just be a theory I never found enough evidence for to post 

The alternative of course is that he has his normal Breaths in another object. Or that he's simply run out of all but his Divine Breath.

 

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And Wits use of the heightenings? 

Edit: I just had a thought. Is it ever mentioned if Drabs are unable to detect the breath aura? Since all Nalthians are born with a Breath, if Drabs are unable to perceive the aura, then seeing it may be a product of Breath itself. 

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44 minutes ago, Calderis said:
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And Wits use of the heightenings? 

Edit: I just had a thought. Is it ever mentioned if Drabs are unable to detect the breath aura? Since all Nalthians are born with a Breath, if Drabs are unable to perceive the aura, then seeing it may be a product of Breath itself. 

Hmmm this is an interesting WoB

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Q: Why is Hoid’s color aura from his Breaths not noticed by anyone on Roshar? Are the characters just not used to noticing that sort of thing, or does he not have one?
 
A: There are a mixture of reasons. Not the least is Hoid's control over investiture. 
 
Q: Would someone with breath be able to notice his aura on Roshar? E.g. Vasher?
 
A: Various methods of detecting investiture would still work, depending on how good a job Hoid is doing of suppressing his.

So it should be visible on Roshar without it being suppressed. A number of reasons though. 

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I believe that the Ars Arcanum from Warbreaker says that people with only one breath can't notice color distortion from Awakeners below fifty breaths themselves, so if Vasher can just suppress his Divine Breath as discussed previously, it would make sense that he just lacks enough breath to have an aura visible to a non-Awakener. Plus, since he is on Roshar, he could use Stormlight to keep himself alive, which is much more readily available on a weekly basis than Breaths. He would probably feel a lot more comfortable keeping only the equivalent of a few breaths on hand, just in case.

EDIT: And thanks, @Calderis, I'm a huge Star Wars fan and the KOTOR games are some of my favorites.

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As other said Vasher could suppress his Divine Breath.

You may notice how in the prologue he mentioned that he could reach the fifth heightening in every moment if he want, also Denth too is a Returned and He manage to suppress his Divine Breath in the same way Vasher does.

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22 hours ago, Darth Revan said:

ZenBossanova's comment about Zahel

Opps.... really should have used the spoiler tag there. 

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14 minutes ago, ZenBossanova said:

Opps.... really should have used the spoiler tag there. 

We all lose track of what subforum we're in from time to time. Especially when we've got crossover discussions(magics/characters). Don't sweat it, and just try to keep them in the tags next time.

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On 6/30/2017 at 1:03 AM, Calderis said:
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And Wits use of the heightenings? 

Edit: I just had a thought. Is it ever mentioned if Drabs are unable to detect the breath aura? Since all Nalthians are born with a Breath, if Drabs are unable to perceive the aura, then seeing it may be a product of Breath itself. 

This is my opinion of why.

Everyone on Nalthis has a breath minus the drag so can at least see the Aura.  Off Nathis no one has breath so they don't see an Aura.  I suspect that a Radiant might see it or an Allomancer actively burning might as well.

As Brandon mentioned, multiple ways to detect it and people could if they knew what they were doing, or Hoid and Vasher do a bad job hiding it.  But that does not change the fact that the average POV chara has no active investiture going at the time and so won't see it.  Which is why I still agree with Calderis point - i.e. it explains the avergae population not seeing it.   The WoB explains why people in the "know" might not see Hoid's Aura specifically (and probably Vasher's).

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On 6/29/2017 at 8:05 PM, The One Who Connects said:

That is the high and low of it as explained by the book.

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