Cel Posted June 8, 2017 Report Share Posted June 8, 2017 (edited) Have you noticed how similar Cosmere characters are? As I read, I noticed these in particular: Breeze=Roial Older men who are smart and slightly manipulative Rock=Kiin Big man who likes to cook Ham=Galladon Big guy who is always there for the main character Shallan=Sarene Smart foreign princess who leaves to marry a prince Vin=Kaladin Has faced oppresion, still doesn't trust most people Vasher=Szeth Dangerous man with a big sword Iadon=Straff Venture Jerk who hates their son Redin=Zane illegitimate son of an evil guy; is slightly insane Have any more? Post them and share your ideas! Edited June 11, 2017 by Kaladinwillumarryme? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoolofwhool Posted June 8, 2017 Report Share Posted June 8, 2017 1 hour ago, Kaladinwillumarryme? said: Grew up oppressed, still doesn't trust most people The level of oppression that Kaladin suffered is nowhere comparable to the amount Vin suffered. One had a loving household but was in an environment of religious people who resented him because of his higher-birth, the other one was raised in the streets, constantly abused, and suffered every day. 1 hour ago, Kaladinwillumarryme? said: illegitimate son of an evil guy; is slightly insane I never got the impression of evil from Highprince Valam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderis Posted June 8, 2017 Report Share Posted June 8, 2017 4 minutes ago, FiveLate said: Well there are only so many types of characters out there and Brandon does a better job of avoiding the usual tropes than most. I read a WOB were he addressed a lot of this by pointing out the specific flaws each character held that resulted in some external similarities, but I can't seem to find it now... Exactly. If you want to speak broadly enough any two characters have similarities. I think Brandon does a good job of distinction between characters. I can't think of any of his characters that you see with any level of detail that are a renamed version of another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesh Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 (edited) Hey, this is interesting. Even if BS didn't do this on purpose, it's still pretty interesting. And she is just pointing out the similarities between characters, not that they are the same person. I mean, how could Kaladin be Vin. Edited June 9, 2017 by Smart Sloth 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderis Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 8 minutes ago, Smart Sloth said: Hey, this is interesting. Even if BS didn't do this on purpose, it's still pretty interesting. And she is just pointing out the similarities between characters, not that they are the same person. I mean, how could Kaladin be Vin. It wasn’t a personal attack. We just disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesh Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 @Calderis What do you disagree with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderis Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 1 minute ago, Smart Sloth said: @Calderis What do you disagree with? That the characters listed are similar outside of very broad strokes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesh Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 True, very true. I see what you mean. But it's always interesting to see similarities between characters in books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainRyan Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 3 hours ago, Smart Sloth said: it's always interesting to see similarities between characters in books [citation needed] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobar14 Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 galladon = Lopen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cel Posted June 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 OK, first off, I didn't post this as a way to criticize BS's characters, I was simply pointing out similarities. Also, I want to reword something: "Has faced oppression" as opposed to "grew up oppressed" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesh Posted June 10, 2017 Report Share Posted June 10, 2017 (edited) Did you know you can edit your posts? Edited June 11, 2017 by Tesh Kholin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cel Posted June 11, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2017 Oh. Thanks! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yezrien Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 I can't help noticing a similarity among Sarene, Shallan, and Vivenna. All modest, devout young women of noble birth, who start the book by arriving in a strange city. All are motivated by obligations to the families they left behind, whom they love deeply -- including an affectionate patriarch who tries to keep in touch, but can't help much (Eventeo, Balat, Dedelin). And all three are bamboozled by a man who hides his true motives and identity -- Raoden, Kabsal, and Denth, respectively. Oh! And all three are partnered with a splinter -- Ashe, Pattern, and Nightblood (briefly). Like @Kaladinwillumarryme?, I'm not criticizing. Just observing a pattern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsdaughter613 Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 (edited) Look, if we're doing that, can I point out Kelsier fits the mythological trickster archetype almost perfectly? Cunning and charismatic? Check. Connections to life and death? Check. Connection to independence from controlling deities? Check. Brings knowledge and change? Check. He's even got the fire connection, since he burns metals. And the Mists could be a water link... He'd fit right in with our terrestrial tricksters. Oddly, Hoid doesn't fit as well, which I find fascinating. Though if you want similar characters... Hoid and Kell are very much alike (and, unsurprisingly, loathe each other.) Don't tell them I said that though! [Hides from murderous worldhoppers.] I'm fairly certain that one's intentional however.... Edited June 13, 2017 by Kingsdaughter613 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cel Posted June 15, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 (edited) Yeah, I agree about Kelsier. Also, good point about Shallan, Sarene, and Vivenna. Edited June 15, 2017 by Kaladinwillumarryme? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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