Jondesu Posted April 28, 2017 Report Share Posted April 28, 2017 Hah, does that mean I technically win after all? And we almost pulled it off, I think. Unfortunately Seonid was exposed and his kill couldn't go through. Or maybe fortunately? I dunno. The village would have had a good chance if we'd found someone earlier, maybe, but once that many villagers were dead and we only had the one lucky lead, it was a long shot at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sart Posted April 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2017 Links to the docs: Forgotten Doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gZccFOdolxmeMVkNFsbpRAG2nNPjchnDWq6Bl6Cz7WM/edit?usp=sharing Spec and Dead Doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NlEQOaAZH_c5F42yOIu1EEwomV9aA3mzfLT6Yx1Tw4c/edit?usp=sharing Master Spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gbZG6VCuy14TAv2ag_xojYcHVUVFAunZX9BzZFqohFQ/edit?usp=sharing I meant to put a bunch of analysis here, but I want the doc links out there first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elenion Posted April 28, 2017 Report Share Posted April 28, 2017 Here's a song parody I've been working on. I would have posted it sooner, but it would have outed me. Spoiler D1 Lynch: Parody of Uptown Funk By Elenion Throw down your poke-votes And find us some scapegoats This one for the Crusade The Crusade - participation! Scannin’, votin’, lynchin’ ‘em up this cycle Gonna hop right on that bandwagon Or vote myself, it’s so crazy <chorus> My vote’s down (vote down) And you don’t get no lawyer, man. My vote’s down (vote down) Is someone vouchin’ for ya, man? My vote’s down (vote down) I bandwagon, that’s who I am My vote’s down (vote down) And you’re bad in my gut reads, break it down Votes hit ya, how does that feel? (whoo) Votes hit ya, how does that feel? (whoo) Votes hit ya, how does that feel? (whoo) This D1 lynch gon' give it to you This D1 lynch gon' give it to you This D1 lynch gon' give it to you The votes are down and time is up, You can trust me, I’m good! (c’mon) You can trust me, I’m good! uh You can trust me, I’m good! You can trust me, I’m good! You can trust me, I’m good! You can trust me, I’m good! Hey, hey, hey, oh </chorus> Stop, think a minute Plan it out, put some logic in it Actions in, votes are down Coolio, we’re ahead! Scan’s in, kill’s in Now we are just waitin’ Suspicions faked, we execute Smoother than it’s blind datin’ CHORUS And now you see how, With just a bit o’ planning: D1, lynch ‘em up (repeated) Bandwagons, jump on ‘em Suspicions? I got ‘em If you suspect, then vote ‘em You’re paranoid; that’s normal Bandwagons, jump on ‘em Suspicions? I got ‘em If you suspect, then vote ‘em The votes are down and time is up, You can trust me, I’m good! You can trust me, I’m good! You can trust me, I’m good! You can trust me, I’m good! You can trust me, I’m good! You can trust me, I’m good! Hey, hey, hey, oh D1, lynch ‘em up! (repeated) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sart Posted April 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2017 I've decided to group this based on the actions present in the game. D-Fence: Let me be clear on this one. The town's defense was never supposed to fail. The Lines of Warding were meant as a stop gap to prevent the Villagers from having freedom of actions. However, there needed to be a serious threat to make sure the camp defended. Originally this was an unblockable kill, in addition to the normal one the Forgotten have. When I did the remake, I made it into a conversion, as a huge threat to the village. I consider changing this back when I posted sign-ups, and again when I posted the change to Lines of Silencing. I kept it as a conversion as I felt it was unfair to change it that late into sign-ups. So, I now had a very visible threat, but it was a bit too dangerous. I didn't want to give the town a visible advantage, as that would lead to them not taking the threat seriously, so I gave them a secret advantage. I made 4 villagers Sentries. That, plus the 2 Non-Rithmatists present in the game, could give the town an extra 4 defense, making it much more likely the town would be safe. I also made the default action Warding, so the town wouldn't be screwed by inactive players. I even included a safety valve in the Acid-Specialist, in case something went wrong. However, I made the town's defense secret. That way, the town would always be paranoid about if they were safe enough, regardless of the number of Forgotten alive. Thus, it was a visible threat, but it had a secret remedy. This gets at why I had 4 Forgotten in this game. I wasn't planning on that. In the original game, with 15 people and 4 Forgotten, the Forgotten lost a member Day 1, and yet still came out on top. This is also with only an extra kill, not a conversion. I knew I didn't want 4 Forgotten again, especially when there were only 16 people signed-up. And then 2 more people signed-up at the last minute. Considering the number of Sentries, if the Forgotten had bad luck at the beginning, then there was no way they would be able to get a conversion. It wouldn't be a threat if just one person could easily block the action. I had hoped to have 20 people before I added in a fourth Forgotten, but I pulled the trigger at 18. In retrospect, that might have been a mistake, but I don't regret that decision. It's getting kind of late for me, so I'll post the rest of these later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeTess Posted April 28, 2017 Report Share Posted April 28, 2017 .... ELEEENIOOOOOOOOOONNN!!!!!! .... *ahem* Anyway, now that I've gotten that out of the way, I'd like to say well played tot he elim team, and great attempt to the village squad. I also now know a bit about what @TheMightyLopen felt like in LG30, when the provided logic proved him right beyond reasonable doubt, and yet the village went against him anyway (in this case, the village being HH). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyLopen Posted April 28, 2017 Report Share Posted April 28, 2017 11 minutes ago, randuir said: .... ELEEENIOOOOOOOOOONNN!!!!!! .... *ahem* Anyway, now that I've gotten that out of the way, I'd like to say well played tot he elim team, and great attempt to the village squad. I also now know a bit about what @TheMightyLopen felt like in LG30, when the provided logic proved him right beyond reasonable doubt, and yet the village went against him anyway (in this case, the village being HH). I was thinking it was pretty similar too. >> Good game Forgotten. You caught some lucky breaks, like me randomly giving Frozen Mint the Assassin ability and Joe blocking Seonid's attack, but you also made the right calls at the end to take out mine and Brightness' protection. So kudos for that. And also, good work by Frozen Mint, since she was basically never under suspicion the entire game until the very end when it didn't make a difference. Village, just lynch Joe next time, 'kay? I also thought my sis, Brightness Radiant, played pretty well for her first game. We almost had 'em! It was fun being confirmed village roles together, though it took away some of the mystery of whether one of us might be fooling the other, since we roleclaimed to each other pretty early(she was worried Len was gonna kill her because she told him she was an Acid-Specialist, so she told me). Thanks for the game Sart! It was a lot of fun. Although I did say I thought it was balanced in the Forgotten's favor in the dead doc, I don't think it was unfairly so. We had our chances, and we've no one to blame but Amanourselves. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stick. Posted April 28, 2017 Report Share Posted April 28, 2017 Yeah...Okay. I did say one of the people who suggested the plans would be evil and, oh, look! There's Len. Regardless, it was fun. Pretty much every SE game is. 4 hours ago, Elenion said: Here's a song parody I've been working on. I would have posted it sooner, but it would have outed me. Reveal hidden contents D1 Lynch: Parody of Uptown Funk By Elenion Throw down your poke-votes And find us some scapegoats This one for the Crusade The Crusade - participation! Scannin’, votin’, lynchin’ ‘em up this cycle Gonna hop right on that bandwagon Or vote myself, it’s so crazy <chorus> My vote’s down (vote down) And you don’t get no lawyer, man. My vote’s down (vote down) Is someone vouchin’ for ya, man? My vote’s down (vote down) I bandwagon, that’s who I am My vote’s down (vote down) And you’re bad in my gut reads, break it down Votes hit ya, how does that feel? (whoo) Votes hit ya, how does that feel? (whoo) Votes hit ya, how does that feel? (whoo) This D1 lynch gon' give it to you This D1 lynch gon' give it to you This D1 lynch gon' give it to you The votes are down and time is up, You can trust me, I’m good! (c’mon) You can trust me, I’m good! uh You can trust me, I’m good! You can trust me, I’m good! You can trust me, I’m good! You can trust me, I’m good! Hey, hey, hey, oh </chorus> Stop, think a minute Plan it out, put some logic in it Actions in, votes are down Coolio, we’re ahead! Scan’s in, kill’s in Now we are just waitin’ Suspicions faked, we execute Smoother than it’s blind datin’ CHORUS And now you see how, With just a bit o’ planning: D1, lynch ‘em up (repeated) Bandwagons, jump on ‘em Suspicions? I got ‘em If you suspect, then vote ‘em You’re paranoid; that’s normal Bandwagons, jump on ‘em Suspicions? I got ‘em If you suspect, then vote ‘em The votes are down and time is up, You can trust me, I’m good! You can trust me, I’m good! You can trust me, I’m good! You can trust me, I’m good! You can trust me, I’m good! You can trust me, I’m good! Hey, hey, hey, oh D1, lynch ‘em up! (repeated) Heh this is good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemalurgic Headshot Posted April 28, 2017 Report Share Posted April 28, 2017 I was played... Dang it. Good game, everyone! Technically, I survived to the end of the game, which is a first! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImpossibleBowler Posted April 28, 2017 Report Share Posted April 28, 2017 (edited) 12 hours ago, Sart said: Amanuensis: Cole Forgotten Sentry I KNEW IT!!!! Ha! MY GUT WAS RIGHT Edited April 28, 2017 by Ornstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jondesu Posted April 28, 2017 Report Share Posted April 28, 2017 6 hours ago, Hemalurgic_Headshot said: I was played... Dang it. Good game, everyone! Technically, I survived to the end of the game, which is a first! Yeah, I really wish I'd reached out to you to try to convince you (not that there's any guarantee it would have worked), but I was convinced you must be an Elim. By Seonid, I think, and Rand, so it wasn't the Elims misleading us there. I really didn't think Len and Joe were Elims. 9 minutes ago, Ornstein said: I KNEW IT!!!! Ha! MY GUT WAS RIGHT I wish we'd caught him two or three cycles earlier! Maybe we could have actually lynched him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amanuensis Posted April 28, 2017 Report Share Posted April 28, 2017 Good game, everyone! I told Jon this in the PM I made with him, but the elims were honestly concerned with how the village would act this last night, For a while we believed that Joe had been figured out and the villagers were feeding him wrong information, but thankfully they believed he was good :] I really wish we could have converted HH in the end, since he was the only villager who took the "right" side, but I'm perfectly happy with Jon joining us for ironies sake. There's a lot more I could say about this game, but I think I mentioned everything fun / important in the elim doc, anyway. For the record, I decided to keep up the lies until the very end mostly for practice's sake. I will not be surprised if I end up evil in the Championship qualifier. Speaking of, for anyone who wants to spectate, message me on Discord! There's going to be a discord chat for people who are watching the game, and like me playing, it would be a great opportunity for everyone to meet new people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrightnessRadiant Posted April 28, 2017 Report Share Posted April 28, 2017 *slow claps* well played elims...well played also kudos for the valiant effort made by the village on that last depressing cycle! I almost thought you were gonna get Aman which would have made me die happy lol well for a first game that was kinda discouraging, but it made me want to play another game to get a feeling of revenge lol on to LG33! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeTess Posted April 28, 2017 Report Share Posted April 28, 2017 38 minutes ago, Amanuensis said: Good game, everyone! I told Jon this in the PM I made with him, but the elims were honestly concerned with how the village would act this last night, For a while we believed that Joe had been figured out and the villagers were feeding him wrong information, but thankfully they believed he was good :] I really wish we could have converted HH in the end, since he was the only villager who took the "right" side, but I'm perfectly happy with Jon joining us for ironies sake. There's a lot more I could say about this game, but I think I mentioned everything fun / important in the elim doc, anyway. For the record, I decided to keep up the lies until the very end mostly for practice's sake. I will not be surprised if I end up evil in the Championship qualifier. Speaking of, for anyone who wants to spectate, message me on Discord! There's going to be a discord chat for people who are watching the game, and like me playing, it would be a great opportunity for everyone to meet new people. Yeah, I've discovered this game that I'm way too easy to sway if someone comes up with sensible plans. Elenion with his coin-flipping scheme, and Joe suggested in my PM with him that I protect Jondesu, which again made sense. As long as I keep learning about new weak points, I can keep getting better, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amanuensis Posted April 28, 2017 Report Share Posted April 28, 2017 23 minutes ago, BrightnessRadiant said: *slow claps* well played elims...well played also kudos for the valiant effort made by the village on that last depressing cycle! I almost thought you were gonna get Aman which would have made me die happy lol well for a first game that was kinda discouraging, but it made me want to play another game to get a feeling of revenge lol on to LG33! Like I said after we killed you, I really wish we could have gone for someone else. In retrospect, leaving you alive wouldn't have been a problem, but we were concerned about you telling people Lopen gave Mint the assassination specialization. I'm glad you'll be sticking around for another game! We could definitely use more consistent players. I hope we both end up village next time, so I won't feel like I have to step on eggshells around you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrightnessRadiant Posted April 28, 2017 Report Share Posted April 28, 2017 1 hour ago, Amanuensis said: Like I said after we killed you, I really wish we could have gone for someone else. In retrospect, leaving you alive wouldn't have been a problem, but we were concerned about you telling people Lopen gave Mint the assassination specialization. I'm glad you'll be sticking around for another game! We could definitely use more consistent players. I hope we both end up village next time, so I won't feel like I have to step on eggshells around you. no worries! you made the right call as an elim cuz I knew a lot of info that would've been dangerous to y'all no...I want revenge 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkness Ascendant Posted April 28, 2017 Report Share Posted April 28, 2017 Yay, congrats elim *sleepy wave 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozen Mint Posted April 28, 2017 Report Share Posted April 28, 2017 15 hours ago, TheMightyLopen said: And also, good work by Frozen Mint, since she was basically never under suspicion the entire game until the very end when it didn't make a difference. Why did you trust me so much? I couldn't work that out. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecthelion III Posted April 29, 2017 Report Share Posted April 29, 2017 I hate to be the guy who comes on after a game just to say I told you so, but... I told you so. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alvron Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 Another game has come and gone. Once again Sart has run his wonderfully entertaining game and I'm sure we all enjoyed his write ups, I know I did. Congratulations Forgotten. The Chalklings have once more overrun Nebrask and threaten to consume the world. Hopefully we can save everyone next time. (hint, hint)If anyone would like to try their hand at running a game, please get a hold of Gamma, Wilson, Metacognition or myself. Not only will we get you added to the list, but we'd also be more than willing to help out in any way we can. You can also ask questions and get some hints and feedback from everyone over here in our Art of Game Creation thread as well. With all the games that we've run so far, we have plenty of experienced GMs that can help you refine any game you're thinking about! If you would like to play, L35: Miserables and QF24: Eliminating Elysium are open for sign ups but will be closing soon so sign up and start killing your fellow Sharders.Thanks again to everyone that played and we look forward to killing seeing you in future games! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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